It's official Fox is merging with the mcu.

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"A family discovers that their kids are mutants and goes on the run from the government joining up with an underground world of mutants", likely the sokovia accords will be a huge reason as to why they have to struggle to survive. It doesn't mean that the Fox X-men movies will be in the mcu but Fox and Marvel will co produce a show with mutants in the mcu. Mutants in the mcu!
 
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This has been worked on for a while, nothing new. This is just the TV shows. The movie universes are still seperate, but share certian characters, like Quicksliver
 

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How can they even do that? Considering there's this particular issue and several others.

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Multiple Earth's and there's a clear age gap of about ten years or more so they can just say the QS you saw in Cap, which was set in 2000's, was the 10-15 year older QS we saw in DOFP and Xmen-Apocalypse.
 

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As much I wanna see a Hulk vs Wolverine, i think merging the two universes after coming this far wont be a good idea.I kinda wish they remain separate bcoz MCU is doing really good and should focus on the characters it has the rights to.
 

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Multiple Earth's and there's a clear age gap of about ten years or more so they can just say the QS you saw in Cap, which was set in 2000's, was the 10-15 year older QS we saw in DOFP and Xmen-Apocalypse.
No, they can't. The backstories are wildly different between the two for one to just be the older version in the same universe.
 

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No, they can't. The backstories are wildly different between the two for one to just be the older version in the same universe.
And that can be fixed with a simple "he lied" or "he was lied to" scenario. Tbh I don't remember QS's backstory much from MCU how did it vary again? I mean obviously besides the father being magneto part. They were experimented on by Hydra or something? Did it say how long Hydra had them? I remember the CA cut scene showing Wanda as a child and mentioning twins, but iirc they never showed QS so that right there would be an out for them to say he was placed with a woman(his mother from FOX) from Hydra to raise him. Then the part about him being Magneto's son could just be cover story for her to explain his powers to him without tipping Hydra's goal.
 

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And that can be fixed with a simple "he lied" or "he was lied to" scenario. Tbh I don't remember QS's backstory much from MCU how did it vary again? I mean obviously besides the father being magneto part. They were experimented on by Hydra or something? Did it say how long Hydra had them? I remember the CA cut scene showing Wanda as a child and mentioning twins, but iirc they never showed QS so that right there would be an out for them to say he was placed with a woman(his mother from FOX) from Hydra to raise him. Then the part about him being Magneto's son could just be cover story for her to explain his powers to him without tipping Hydra's goal.
He grew up in some European country until a missile crashed into his house and killed his parents by burying them alive. That shit is too cliche, having it be a "he was lied to" thing is just a terrible idea.
 

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He grew up in some European country until a missile crashed into his house and killed his parents by burying them alive. That shit is too cliche, having it be a "he was lied to" thing is just a terrible idea.
No one said it was a good idea I said it was a simple idea. Not everything needs to be groundbreaking and revolutionary or brand new sometimes it's ok to go back to the well also the tainted memory thing is pretty common in comic story telling, people have false memories all the time. Maybe the whole bit with Fox is a past he created for himself in his head to help cope with the bombing? There's infinite ways to explain it that a better writer would be able to show you.
 

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No one said it was a good idea I said it was a simple idea. Not everything needs to be groundbreaking and revolutionary or brand new sometimes it's ok to go back to the well also the tainted memory thing is pretty common in comic story telling, people have false memories all the time. Maybe the whole bit with Fox is a past he created for himself in his head to help cope with the bombing? There's infinite ways to explain it that a better writer would be able to show you.
So the bombing is real and his life as an American teenager was a defensive mechanism? Nope, sorry, even more holes just created with that.
 

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So the bombing is real and his life as an American teenager was a defensive mechanism? Nope, sorry, even more holes just created with that.
I love how you're critiquing a random internet users ideas of how they could connect the two as if I was an actual script writer or associate of the business in any form, keep 'em coming. An actual writer could flesh out the concepts more or come up with something better, but yes let's continue pretending my proposed simplified methods are actual routes they'll take.

Also what holes, you can't just make claims then not support them what hole would it make? Kid lives in Europe til' he's a teenager, his house gets bombed, he's unconscious and rushed for medical treatment by Hydra, option A; Kid wakes up traumatized and subconsciously creates new memories of his life up to that age that don't include his family being bombed(I.E. FOX QS, which would mean MCU can ignore all of his exploits in FOX movies) or option B; Hydra afraid of losing their asset implants false memories in the process of saving him after the bombing, kid grows up with new memories superseding his memories of the truth. Either way they never have to acknowledge that the FOX version was real, that way the only QS in MCU would be the Avengers one and they can explain everything the viewers saw as a false reality.
 

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I love how you're critiquing a random internet users ideas of how they could connect the two as if I was an actual script writer or associate of the business in any form, keep 'em coming. An actual writer could flesh out the concepts more or come up with something better, but yes let's continue pretending my proposed simplified methods are actual routes they'll take.
Why are you on this site? This is a thread made for discussion on a forum made for discussion. What we are doing right now is discussing a topic. If you don't want to do that, why do you log on? There is no insult here.

Also what holes, you can't just make claims then not support them what hole would it make? Kid lives in Europe til' he's a teenager, his house gets bombed, he's unconscious and rushed for medical treatment by Hydra, option A; Kid wakes up traumatized and subconsciously creates new memories of his life up to that age that don't include his family being bombed(I.E. FOX QS, which would mean MCU can ignore all of his exploits in FOX movies) or option B; Hydra afraid of losing their asset implants false memories in the process of saving him after the bombing, kid grows up with new memories superseding his memories of the truth. Either way they never have to acknowledge that the FOX version was real, that way the only QS in MCU would be the Avengers one and they can explain everything the viewers saw as a false reality.
Quicksilver plays huge parts in the Days of Future Past and Apocalypse movies. For it all to be imaginary, that would mean Quicksilver's memories include every scene he isn't in, such as Wolverine waking up naked in the 70s, Erik watching the file footage on the Sentinels, the Sentinel attacks in the future, etc. It would reduce everything in the previous movies to the dreams and disillusions of Quicksilver. Why would that ever be a viable option just to explain the differences in their characters?

And no, I'm not saying this is the idea they'll use, I'm just saying the idea sucks.
 

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Why are you on this site? This is a thread made for discussion on a forum made for discussion. What we are doing right now is discussing a topic. If you don't want to do that, why do you log on? There is no insult here.



Quicksilver plays huge parts in the Days of Future Past and Apocalypse movies. For it all to be imaginary, that would mean Quicksilver's memories include every scene he isn't in, such as Wolverine waking up naked in the 70s, Erik watching the file footage on the Sentinels, the Sentinel attacks in the future, etc. It would reduce everything in the previous movies to the dreams and disillusions of Quicksilver. Why would that ever be a viable option just to explain the differences in their characters?

And no, I'm not saying this is the idea they'll use, I'm just saying the idea sucks.
Because the MCU doesn't plan to recognize the events of the X-Men titles anyway. They're not going to make mention of how the entire world was almost destroyed for mutant kind and not a single Avenger bothered to even check it out and report despite it happening on American soil. Did you read the article? MCU just wanted to be allowed to incorporate mutants into their universe, they don't intend to form their universe to fit Fox's.
 

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Because the MCU doesn't plan to recognize the events of the X-Men titles anyway. They're not going to make mention of how the entire world was almost destroyed for mutant kind and not a single Avenger bothered to even check it out and report despite it happening on American soil. Did you read the article? MCU just wanted to be allowed to incorporate mutants into their universe, they don't intend to form their universe to fit Fox's.
Okay, and? I'm not talking about what they're doing, I was talking about the specific idea you proposed.
 

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Okay, and? I'm not talking about what they're doing, I was talking about the specific idea you proposed.
The idea I proposed was how could they explain the difference between the two looks of the character. You're the one who incorporated that into how do the two universes stories coalesce, but we both know you're not one who's unfamiliar with placing his own topics into the argument. The idea I proposed would work for them since they're not intending to incorporate any of the Fox movie happenings. See the question wasn't how do you explain these two and keep the stories from both intact(as that was never the goal) the question was how do you explain these two people being so different despite being the same character. To your earlier point, I use this site to read other's opinions and share my own, you use this site to instigate and argue so I understand why you might be confused.
 

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This has been worked on for a while, nothing new. This is just the TV shows. The movie universes are still seperate, but share certian characters, like Quicksliver
Yes the Fox Movieverse is still separate but the tv show will include mutants and will be set in the mcu.
I might have been wrong about it being in the mcu.
 
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This would be awesome if for the only reason Marvel would quit burying the X-Men in the comics.

Marvel gets a giant pass for basically saying F the Fans who love the X-Men because we don't own the movie rights. And if you don't think that's happening then your in denial.

But an actual X-Men TV show would be awesome. Not Legion or the Hellfire Club but the actual X-Men.

The reason why X-Men movies are so polarizing is because the X-Men is ASOIAF of the comic book world. There are so many characters that's impossible for you to get to know them well in a movie and really explore them as characters.

Just like with the GoT it would never work as a movie but as a series it is amazing and I honestly think the only way to make X-Men great as it could be is through a series.
 
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