Its not his power, yes it is, not it isnt, yes it is...

[Meowazziel]

So lets clear it up once and for all.

Naruto uses the power of Kurama.
This is naruto his power, because he obtained it(by sealing and training).
He has learned how to control the power and he has befriended kurama.
It doesnt matter if it is obtained through genetics, or by sealing.

Shinobi learn techniques. You arent born with all your techniques.
When you learn techniques, they for sure are yours right?
You can obtain power in numerous ways, training, implants, sealing,
you name it.

Sasuke uses the power of Sharingan and Especially EMS.
He obtained this power partly by genetics, partly by implant.
However, this power is Sasuke's. He has obtained it.

Jiraiya could fuse with 2 sage toads, but they were for sure part of his power.
Blood(an outside source) is required for edo tensei, but the technique is for sure part of Tobirama, Orochimaru and Kabuto their arsenal.

Animal summoning contracts need to be given to you, before you can make the contract and summon them.
You arent born with them either, but we for sure count them for a shinobi's arsenal.

Nagato has been implanted with rinnegan. Obito with Rinnegan. Madara infused himself with Hashi dna, for power ups and we all count their powers as part of them.

Danzo uses 10 sharingans, a hashi arm and a shisui eye and we all count it as his power.
Hanzo has implanted the venom sac of a salamander and we count it as his power.

I hope i have made this all clear.

Kurama is naruto his power.
EMS is sasuke his power.
and many shinobi have powers, that they not only gained by training and genetics, but through other sources as well.
We count it all as their powers.

Thank you.

 

[נıм]

ok.

 

[~Dream~]

Both were gifted. That's like saying Kurama is using the Juubi's power.

 

[Sephy100]

If this is what you tell yourself so that you can sleep at night then ok

 

[rollin]

in a way naruto has it by genetics because only his body can handle being kurama's jinchuuriki

 

[Narutohokage7]

I agree.

I am not particulary fond of Sasuke as a character but, even w/o sharingan I reckon he would still be boss.

 

[Sasuke eats nards]

I didn't read all this, but Kurama's power also belongs to Naruto. He trained to control it, and found his way into Kurama's heart. How would it not be his power? Thinking otherwise is just plain foolish.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

I'm so tired of these threads. Why is it that people compare the sharingan with a tail beast? The sharingan is an ocular jutsu that is given to relatives of the Uchiha. The nine-tails is one of the entity's the Sage made to divide the powers of the ten-tails. Minato placed Naruto the nine-tails to be able to defeat Obito. The reason many argue that Naruto is weak and the nine-tails isn't his power it's because he always has the nine-tails saving him from tight spots. Naruto is strong don't get me wrong, but i understand people's point of view. Naruto is always rash in his decisions and that's what makes him struggle against his opponents. He doesn't think or calculate his plan until mid of the match where he starts using his brain. The difference is that Sasuke can lose a match, but he uses his ocular powers that was given to him by his ancestors. Naruto wins and people judge him because the nine-tails saved him from defeat. That's the difference right there. In other words it's a huge plot shield that makes Naruto invincible against most opponents.

 

[Sephy100]

What proof do you have of this?

 

[Meowazziel]

I'm so tired of these threads. Why is it that people compare the sharingan with a tail beast? The sharingan is an ocular jutsu that is given to relatives of the Uchiha. The nine-tails is one of the entity's the Sage made to divide the powers of the ten-tails. Minato placed Naruto the nine-tails to be able to defeat Obito. The reason many argue that Naruto is weak and the nine-tails isn't his power it's because he always has the nine-tails saving him from tight spots. Naruto is strong don't get me wrong, but i understand people's point of view. Naruto is always rash in his decisions and that's what makes him struggle against his opponents. He doesn't think or calculate his plan until mid of the match where he starts using his brain. The difference is that Sasuke can lose a match, but he uses his ocular powers that was given to him by his ancestors. Naruto wins and people judge him because the nine-tails saved him from defeat. That's the difference right there.

You arent born with EMS either. Sasuke would have been blind if it wasnt for an IMPLANT.
Naruto has received an IMPLANT(the ninetails) as well. He trained for it to control it and befriend it.
The sage has given the uchiha sharingan.
The sage has given the uzumaki bijou (they are the only true suitable host).

Its just depends on through what kind of perspective you look at it, dont you think so?

 

[Byakuya K]

... okay?

 

[Meowazziel]

What proof do you have of this?

Which part?
My opening post and responses give the explanations.
Where do you feel it lacks proof?

 

[The God of Wind]

Agreed! I would like to further support your opinion and mine with this message from a very special someone!

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Everyone that disagrees....consider yourself Tobi, in this case. And this is solid proof! End of discussion

 

[amsy]

that which you said is the truth

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

You arent born with EMS either. Sasuke would have been blind if it wasnt for an IMPLANT.
Naruto has received an IMPLANT(the ninetails) as well. He trained for it to control it and befriend it.
The sage has given the uchiha sharingan.
The sage has given the uzumaki bijou (they are the only true suitable host).

Its just depends on through what kind of perspective you look at it, dont you think so?

Lol, Minato sealed the nine-tails inside Naruto, not implant. Second, Sasuke just like Madare required the MS to obtain greater power and because MS ultimate price is the light of your eyes. I agree that Sasuke had a freebie with the EMS, but it's still can't be compared to the nine-tails. Sasuke's EMS is related to his ancestors, while Naruto's nine-tails is just a beast of immense chakra created by the SO6P. I will agree that Naruto has done amazing things to change Kurama and has received greater power, so as a ninja he has grown to be a leader in a way. The thing is that Naruto didn't develop enough techniques from the Senju/Uzumaki to make him look his own boss without Kurama. I will say that KM and BM powers are his in a way, so i can argue since he is the host after all.

 

[Meowazziel]

Lol, Minato sealed the nine-tails inside Naruto, not implant. Second, Sasuke just like Madare required the MS to obtain greater power and because MS ultimate price is the light of your eyes. I agree that Sasuke had a freebie with the EMS, but it's still can't be compared to the nine-tails. Sasuke's EMS is related to his ancestors, while Naruto's nine-tails is just a beast of immense chakra created by the SO6P. I will agree that Naruto has done amazing things to change Kurama and has received greater power, so as a ninja he has grown to be a leader in a way. The thing is that Naruto didn't develop enough techniques from the Senju/Uzumaki to make him look his own boss without Kurama. I will say that KM and BM powers are his in a way, so i can argue since he is the host after all.

Implant or seal? Does the word truly matter in the context of this thread?
You get it from an outside source.
EMS isnt really a freebie if you go blindmode without it .

The ancestry of the uzumaki is bijou host in a way.
Sasuke has sharingan, thanks to the SO6P.
Both should thank the SO6P .

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Implant or seal? Does the word truly matter in the context of this thread?
You get it from an outside source.
EMS isnt really a freebie if you go blindmode without it .

The ancestry of the uzumaki is bijou host in a way.
Sasuke has sharingan, thanks to the SO6P.
Both should thank the SO6P .

Um... Not sure how that will happen. He is a proud of being an Uchiha, so i think that's speaks volumes.

 

[The God of Wind]

The Sage of the Six Paths was the Juubi's host.

Uzumaki's are his descendants and they were the one's suitable for continuing the tradition, as they did!

Naruto's lineage and heretical powers are older than Sasuke's.

So there!

 

[Simple Math]

lets just call it for naruto's power