It's not fair that Minato powerups are not explained

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They literally toyed with him, all he did was in vein...

And we still don't know how his hands got in work with the creator of the space-time jutsu- Tobirama the inventor himself.
Even Hiruzen hadn't got in the Uzumaki's legacy, the one that mastered Konoha's all jutsu.

Basically Minato stores unexplained powers for an ordinary shinobi without a proper bloodline.
He managed to learn many of the most complex jutsus that were possible for a single with ordinary blood...
Hiruzen mastered many but Minato's few over-shadows his... And learning former people's jutsus is good thing, at least he wasn't fed with all of his arsenal...
 

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I'd be fine with it if they just explained how.

Also Minato having SM diminishes how cool it was in the first place, now making Jiraiya- the original awesome SM user who showed us it for the first time, the weakest and worst known Sage Mode user. That is sh*t.
He maybe got SM like jiraiya-sensei, imperfect.
 

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Not explained???

FTG: introduced by Minato and he being the one to fully describe it and even mastering it to a different level...
Sealing Techs: were introduced through Minato in the very first episode...
KB/SM: I always expected these two because the way I interpreted manga, it gave me hints about it...

Minato's arsenal was explained in the best possible way, Tobirama got it for granted being the creator of those techs...


Yet, it took two GODs to take away hands from him...
u r best! ::))
 
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@Shelke but we all know how kishi works, do some shit and left it unexplained. Look at the damn susano wireless. I'm still here waiting for an explanation.
That is the least of Kishi's problems honestly. The whole Obito and Sasuke arc is left unexplained. Kabuto and Sasuke arc. The hidden EMS Doujutsu etc etc. I am getting sick of the manga. Minato simply drove the last dregs of decency straight into the ground. With Minato, it's not just a plot-hole, it's a complete 180 degree of a previously established logic.

It's obvious this guy was never relevant to the war, which is why Kishimoto has to go to such lengths to keep him relevant. It's almost too sad.
 

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That is the least of Kishi's problems honestly. The whole Obito and Sasuke arc is left unexplained. Kabuto and Sasuke arc. The hidden EMS Doujutsu etc etc. I am getting sick of the manga. Minato simply drove the last dregs of decency straight into the ground. With Minato, it's not just a plot-hole, it's a complete 180 degree of a previously established logic.

It's obvious this guy was never relevant to the war, which is why Kishimoto has to go to such lengths to keep him relevant. It's almost too sad.
Since when kishimoto needs logic in this manga? Even more in the damn revival of juubi arc. So many biased moments happened in this dam war, i wouldn't be surprise if next 4 chapters sakura gets ''slug sage mode''.
 

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Since when kishimoto needs logic in this manga? Even more in the damn revival of juubi arc. So many biased moments happened in this dam war, i wouldn't be surprise if next 4 chapters sakura gets ''slug sage mode''.
The term 'Logic' doesn't mean reality - it means adhering to Logic within the established confines of the context. In this case, it's Naruto-Verse. Take Harry Potter(I am using this as most have read it) - every constructed spell is its logic and how it's supposed to work. The killing curse shouldn't work if the user himself is not strong enough, something Mad-Eye - Barty Crouch Jr - explained to the Class in Goblet of Fire.

Now if all 1st Graders end up killing with it, it has decimated the Logic established by the writer herself. Similarly, immortality of concepts is the heart of Keats' Odes. What would happen, if he suddenly jumped to sexual connotations in Ode to a Nightingale? The Scent or Smell of an individual is a metaphor for identity in Perfume Story of a Murder. What would happen if the writer turn the main character into sexual predator, defiling each girl before taking the scent, when Virginity and his lack of sexual desire are pivotal to understanding this novel? All these amount to logic established by the writer himself. He cannot go beyond the confines he himself has set up.

This is what makes Kishimoto so pathetic and moronic - he cannot adhere to the Story Logic set within the manga and keeps spinning it around as he sees fit. These are merits or demerits of a supremely poor writer.
 

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The term 'Logic' doesn't mean reality - it means adhering to Logic within the established confines of the context. In this case, it's Naruto-Verse. Take Harry Potter(I am using this as most have read it) - every constructed spell is its logic and how it's supposed to work. The killing curse shouldn't work if the user himself is not strong enough, something Mad-Eye - Barty Crouch Jr - explained to the Class in Goblet of Fire.

Now if all 1st Graders end up killing with it, it has decimated the Logic established by the writer herself. Similarly, immortality of concepts is the heart of Keats' Odes. What would happen, if he suddenly jumped to sexual connotations in Ode to a Nightingale? The Scent or Smell of an individual is a metaphor for identity in Perfume Story of a Murder. What would happen if the writer turn the main character into sexual predator, defiling each girl before taking the scent, when Virginity and his lack of sexual desire are pivotal to understanding this novel? All these amount to logic established by the writer himself. He cannot go beyond the confines he himself has set up.

This is what makes Kishimoto so pathetic and moronic - he cannot adhere to the Story Logic set within the manga and keeps spinning it around as he sees fit. These are merits or demerits of a supremely poor writer.
Sorry but i don't read anything of harry potter neither it's movies but you got a point. I would have stopped reading the manga but the manga is about to end soon so whatever kishimoto has planed i hope it's not biased.
 

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^ I am just sticking round for Sasuke. Otherwise, this manga strode over my tolerance compass long ago. It's far too inconsistent for my tastes. Anyone who sides with his author and his flippant ways to handle the story has never read a decent book, poem, drama etc in his/hers entire life. It's THIS bad now.
 

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The guy gets free powerups without even showing how.
FTG, SM, Sealling Jutsu, Kage Bunshin, Space-time Barrier, call it what you want, and everything that can come up on your mind.

after living a life as a failure he receives something new to keep up with the best, though

having SM for the first time in Edo form is the most ridiculous thing that we had to deal with in the latest chapter.
FTG, not a powerup. Sealing jutsu, not a powerup. Kage Bunshin, not a powerup. Space time, not a powerup. Not everything is a damn powerup, most of those are techs. And not every damn tech needs an explanation. He just has it, and that's how it is.

KCM was explained, whether or not you agree or like it is up to you.
SM is the only thing that's been unexplained.
 

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^ I am just sticking round for Sasuke. Otherwise, this manga strode over my tolerance compass long ago. It's far too inconsistent for my tastes. Anyone who sides with his author and his flippant ways to handle the story has never read a decent book, poem, drama etc in his/hers entire life. It's THIS bad now.
Yet you still stick around and whine and complain -_- like seriously just go, no one is going to miss you. Do you think your complaining is going to change anything. There are plenty of other mangas to read.
 

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yet you still stick around and whine and complain -_- like seriously just go, no one is going to miss you. Do you think your complaining is going to change anything. There are plenty of other mangas to read.
hahahahahahahahaha

By the way, just out of curiosity, why are you so bothered about someone else's genuine criticism on the manga? You Minato fanboys, always doing their worse.
 
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Yet you still stick around and whine and complain -_- like seriously just go, no one is going to miss you. Do you think your complaining is going to change anything. There are plenty of other mangas to read.
In case you've forgotten this is a discussion forum.I'm so sick and tired of people like you telling others to leave because they discuss the damn manga.
 
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