It's impossible to be kind.

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If some people can't work.

Not because they are sick but because they are just not intelligent enough or there isn't any room for them.


They can't get any jobs or keep any.


So what do you do with them?

You could give them money and let them live in a paradise where they can support themselves but not work.


But then that becomes unfair and people will dislike them and they get separated from society.


But if you are not kind then those people become homeless people or criminals, if you take over their lives they are gonna call you nazis.



There are only 2 options either do something nice which doesn't work or do something cruel which isn't very nice.
 

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Wait, if they are too dumb to work, that means they are below 70 IQ. Which means they are legally handicapped. So they deserve social benefits.

Now, how to prevent this issue from starting isnthe real problem.
 

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What are you even referencing specifically? People without jobs are usually left to their own devices. We don't have universal healthcare and over 45,000 people die every year from not being able to afford it.

Public housing is being defunded as we speak, homeless people are literally being arrested for being homeless, and the idea that people take advantage of welfare and freeload at the taxpayers expense is nothing but a myth as labor statistics show that welfare fraud is only prevalent in 2% of all cases.

And the homeless keep growing and that affects the economy. It's all a ripple effect. Solving the homeless problem would inadvertently help everyone from a financial point of view. Think of a nation as an organism, every aspect of it effects the entire body.
 

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You know what I enjoy the most on forums? Correcting the use of punctuation at some point. Sometimes even grammar. I guess the years I worked in teaching effected me, and I noticed that you, sdkljfsdjnsjnoids, you either post with a 3rd grade mindset or becoming more and more alike like minamotto. So let's answer your concerns. By the way, I just love you. No hard feelings at all. I just think I become crueler when I get older.

If some people can't work, not because they are sick, but because they are just not intelligent enough or there isn't any room for them.
Well, SDK (I'm gonna call you that), naturally these days only those with experience and skills deserve seats/room in the market of careers.
sdkljfsdjnsjnoids said:
They can't get any jobs or keep any, so what do you do with them?
What the hell do you mean "what do you do with them?" Sit with them? Complain with them? No no. I'm sure you mean "what can you do for them?". Well, depends on what can I offer of help for them, but I want them to do 95% of the effort for themselves or even 97.5%.
sdkljfsdjnsjnoids said:
You could give them money and let them live in a paradise where they can support themselves
I could, for basic things they need. Food, clothes, gas. Depends on how their status is. I don't wanna help them more than 2.5% of my effort to change their lives to better.
sdkljfsdjnsjnoids said:
but then, that becomes unfair and people will dislike them and they get separated from society.
What you decide as fair or not is only from your own lens. How you view life, how you see the right and wrong. Nobody should tell you what is right and what is wrong. Everything changes between day and night. There is no constant status in the social structure of society.
sdkljfsdjnsjnoids said:
If you are not kind then those people become homeless people or criminals.
Kindness is for those who are in need for it. Those who their lives are on the verge of extinct. It baffles me if someone talk about kindness and the problem of unemplyment compared to those who want nothing more than a food in their mouths. But who am I? Nobody.
sdkljfsdjnsjnoids said:
if you take over their lives they are gonna call you nazis.
The only ones who take lives are terrorists by all shapes and forms. Regardless of their affiliations, ethnicity or whatever. Also avoid generalizing. You almost sound like even referring to me among billions of people, which I barely could do shit to the -- society. I only support my family and that's the best I could do in my whole life.
sdkljfsdjnsjnoids said:
There are only 2 options, either do something nice which doesn't work or do something cruel which isn't very nice.
If the 2 options won't ease the situation, won't help to keep the suffer less, won't solve the problems... then... why did you mention them?
 
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That's a narrow way of looking at things. It is very much possible to be kind, human beings are capable of being both very altruistic and extremely wicked.

To solve the issue with people who have difficulty making ends meat we must change the socio-economic system. Today there is enough technology to meet the needs of everyone but truly wicked people in the world want to continue the backward economic ladder of misery system.

This system is based on two things, money and artificial scarcity. By deliberately causing the latter you generate huge amounts of the former. Truth is nothing needs to be scarce and we don't need money. If everyone can have everything they need then only those who are qualified and have a desire to work towards the benefit of human society will lead since leadership offers no material benefit. Work too will be voluntarily done by only those who want to help.

With this system there would barely be any wars (since most wars are fought over resources), no theft. This system was practiced by a few people in ancient times, these people were never seen with weapons when their remains were found because they achieved a higher level of human moral development. Mind you this system is not perfect since humans aren't either but it is certainly better than the vile, backward Darwinian system we practice today.

Humans hold their destiny in their own hands, it is not a question of what they can or can't do but what they want or won't do.
 
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