It's cute that people think Choji can beat Tsunade let one Sakura.

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But we do agree that Neji would mutilate Sakura.. right?

I believe if Hinata could reach Neji's level or somehow surpass it, that Hinata would have a solid chance against Sakura and Tsunade.

hinata weaker than Part 1 Neji, it'll tak a lot of training for her to reach Part 1 Neji nevermind Part 2 Neji,
 

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You misinterpret what I meant.

Sakura's goal was to attempt at killing Sasuke, she stopped her attack because of her feelings.

Nagato's judgement was changed because of what he perceived, which is very different from Sakura's scenario.

She witnessed herself that Sasuke had become even more cold and "evil" when he told her to kill Karin, yet she still hesitates?

Very large difference between the two, but since she is your favorite character you don't admit to her flaws, I'm probably going to get a poorly typed and mind boggling response from you, which I get 90% of the time.

Aww you find my post to be mind boggling <3

But anyway...
I dont admit to her flaws, like I said, it's because it was Sasuke, she is madly in love with him. Of course she will be blinded, and she hesitated because it's not in her nature to kill unless she has to. She is a medic, why would she kill a severely beaten woman, it goes against everything she is about. She realized that Sasuke had changed...

And I used Nagato because you said an intelligent character wouldn't let emotions get in their way
 

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Talk to me when choji is about to singlehandedly obliterate 100+ highly durable Jubbi clones with one punch. Yin seal Sakura >>> BM CHOJi

Highly durable? Sasuke was cutting them down with his chokutō, and it wasn't even imbued with Chidori.

This takes care of the Fodder Juubi clones:

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Aww you find my post to be mind boggling <3

But anyway...
I dont admit to her flaws, like I said, it's because it was Sasuke, she is madly in love with him. Of course she will be blinded, and she hesitated because it's not in her nature to kill unless she has to. She is a medic, why would she kill a severely beaten woman, it goes against everything she is about. She realized that Sasuke had changed...

And I used Nagato because you said an intelligent character wouldn't let emotions get in their way


At the bold, every character has flaws.. the bias is strong.

And this post is laughable.

- Her original plan was to always kill Sasuke, not harm anyone else.. she had the opportunity to do so, (so she thought), and didn't follow up due to the fact that she "loves" him.
- She is a medic, we all know this. It's the only thing she's relatively good at.
- She didn't realize anything, how do I know this? She locked up and needed to be saved twice by Naruto and Kakashi.
- Nagato's emotions stayed the same, his judgement was the only thing that was changed.

This is too easy.
 

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First and foremost there is absolutely no way that Choji beats Tsunade. Sakura,, however, is quite debatable.


You are underrating the power of the expansion jutsu. The jutsu allows one to become a giant. This increase in the body's expansion comes with increases of muscle mass, size, and weight. As a result, one is easily capable of substantially increasing the impact of their strikes due to:

1. Increased muscle mass meaning an overall stronger body.

2. Inertia that is the combination of pulling forces of gravity, and the speed in which the punch falls down (as it is to note, he's striking down with that height).

Choji was also seen to have adequate mobility while in this mode which also means he is not some slow moving tank, but decently mobile.

Also remember that he had the physical strength to challenge the Gedo Statue which was easily capable of stopping Kitsuchi's mountain sized Earth Wall. Which means hos physical strength is on extreme levels while expanded to butterfly mode.
Finally, remember that Sakura's only known methods for truly attacking is physical strikes (can't see sleep bombs working here). With his ability to leap fair distances (not to mention his own rational intellect) I can't see someone just letting Sakura go punch them in the shins. Sakura can leap high distances, but that doesn't mean it helps. Once in the air evasive maneuvers (what she was trained to do) are impossible meaning she'd have to defend with a punch. Considering their relatively comparable strength levels given evidence stated earlier, I'd say it does nothing, but send Sakura back to the ground when the strikes cancel.

Also remember that Sakura is a medical ninja first and a combat shinobi second. Which means while she will still have skill in combat, she'll notably lack some of the intuition and reactions that combat type shinobi would have in greater quality (since they are typically in combat).



Sakura has great strength, but that doesn't guarantee victory. Remember that her whole style revolves around her ability to control chakra. Even with that, she's notably showed little diversity in Taijutsu other than punches to the ground or average level strikes in combat. So I would conclude that she isn't really a master at Taijutsu, but is only lethal because of her physically enhanced strength.

She can't keep up with people such as Lee because of speed. With Choji, it is due to matching physical strength. The Yin Seal and Katsuyu doesn't automatically guarantee victory. It simply provides Sakura a greater strength to achieve victory.
 

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Femme stop fighting it , you have 3 guys soloing you , just sit there & take it already *OH!.
 
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SO Choji should be Hokage since he is greater than Tsunade. That is what i am getting, I didn't even factor in her healing jutsu's....I just made this purely about taijutsu.

Being a kage has nothing to do with strength. Tsunade is where she's at because of the wisdom that comes with her advanced age. Healing jutsus have nothing to do with a fight.
 

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First and foremost there is absolutely no way that Choji beats Tsunade. Sakura,, however, is quite debatable.


You are underrating the power of the expansion jutsu. The jutsu allows one to become a giant. This increase in the body's expansion comes with increases of muscle mass, size, and weight. As a result, one is easily capable of substantially increasing the impact of their strikes due to:

1. Increased muscle mass meaning an overall stronger body.

2. Inertia that is the combination of pulling forces of gravity, and the speed in which the punch falls down (as it is to note, he's striking down with that height).

Choji was also seen to have adequate mobility while in this mode which also means he is not some slow moving tank, but decently mobile.

Also remember that he had the physical strength to challenge the Gedo Statue which was easily capable of stopping Kitsuchi's mountain sized Earth Wall. Which means hos physical strength is on extreme levels while expanded to butterfly mode.
Finally, remember that Sakura's only known methods for truly attacking is physical strikes (can't see sleep bombs working here). With his ability to leap fair distances (not to mention his own rational intellect) I can't see someone just letting Sakura go punch them in the shins. Sakura can leap high distances, but that doesn't mean it helps. Once in the air evasive maneuvers (what she was trained to do) are impossible meaning she'd have to defend with a punch. Considering their relatively comparable strength levels given evidence stated earlier, I'd say it does nothing, but send Sakura back to the ground when the strikes cancel.

Also remember that Sakura is a medical ninja first and a combat shinobi second. Which means while she will still have skill in combat, she'll notably lack some of the intuition and reactions that combat type shinobi would have in greater quality (since they are typically in combat).



Sakura has great strength, but that doesn't guarantee victory. Remember that her whole style revolves around her ability to control chakra. Even with that, she's notably showed little diversity in Taijutsu other than punches to the ground or average level strikes in combat. So I would conclude that she isn't really a master at Taijutsu, but is only lethal because of her physically enhanced strength.

She can't keep up with people such as Lee because of speed. With Choji, it is due to matching physical strength. The Yin Seal and Katsuyu doesn't automatically guarantee victory. It simply provides Sakura a greater strength to achieve victory.

Dude, there's no point. I could literally post the entire Chouji Akimichi wiki page with a case study on every single element where Sakura loses and her bias would be too much to even pay attention.

Her brain doesn't process facts.
 

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First and foremost there is absolutely no way that Choji beats Tsunade. Sakura,, however, is quite debatable.


You are underrating the power of the expansion jutsu. The jutsu allows one to become a giant. This increase in the body's expansion comes with increases of muscle mass, size, and weight. As a result, one is easily capable of substantially increasing the impact of their strikes due to:

1. Increased muscle mass meaning an overall stronger body.

2. Inertia that is the combination of pulling forces of gravity, and the speed in which the punch falls down (as it is to note, he's striking down with that height).

Choji was also seen to have adequate mobility while in this mode which also means he is not some slow moving tank, but decently mobile.

Also remember that he had the physical strength to challenge the Gedo Statue which was easily capable of stopping Kitsuchi's mountain sized Earth Wall. Which means hos physical strength is on extreme levels while expanded to butterfly mode.
Finally, remember that Sakura's only known methods for truly attacking is physical strikes (can't see sleep bombs working here). With his ability to leap fair distances (not to mention his own rational intellect) I can't see someone just letting Sakura go punch them in the shins. Sakura can leap high distances, but that doesn't mean it helps. Once in the air evasive maneuvers (what she was trained to do) are impossible meaning she'd have to defend with a punch. Considering their relatively comparable strength levels given evidence stated earlier, I'd say it does nothing, but send Sakura back to the ground when the strikes cancel.

Also remember that Sakura is a medical ninja first and a combat shinobi second. Which means while she will still have skill in combat, she'll notably lack some of the intuition and reactions that combat type shinobi would have in greater quality (since they are typically in combat).



Sakura has great strength, but that doesn't guarantee victory. Remember that her whole style revolves around her ability to control chakra. Even with that, she's notably showed little diversity in Taijutsu other than punches to the ground or average level strikes in combat. So I would conclude that she isn't really a master at Taijutsu, but is only lethal because of her physically enhanced strength.

She can't keep up with people such as Lee because of speed. With Choji, it is due to matching physical strength. The Yin Seal and Katsuyu doesn't automatically guarantee victory. It simply provides Sakura a greater strength to achieve victory.

I see what you mean, at least you didn't say the Choji automatically wins like the others, you didn't give it an ultimatum. L
 

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But we do agree that Neji would mutilate Sakura.. right?

I believe if Hinata could reach Neji's level or somehow surpass it, that Hinata would have a solid chance against Sakura and Tsunade.
Yes; Neji would beat Sakura; i agree with that and i can't count the times i've supported the idea.

About Hinata; she is still inferior to part 1 Neji; let alone part 2. Her feats on manga regarding to battle are not even comparable to Neji's; her overall databooks stats combined is lower than after SRA Neji's (Neji had 24,5 in 2nd; Hinata has 21,5 in 3rd databook) and every stat about her regarding taijutsu(tai-speed-stamina-strength) is not so bright. I don't think she would be able to surpass Neji in close time; chances are slim anyway.
 

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Actually f*ck you FF. I gave you a thousand reasons. And you ignored all of them.

You're a joke. Stop making threads. Log off.

LMAO! Not you got mad. DTFL! CTFU! LLS! OMG I can't with this post.
You keep saying that Choji wins, you never said that Sakura has a chance to.
 

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LMAO! Not you got mad. DTFL! CTFU! LLS! OMG I can't with this post.
You keep saying that Choji wins, you never said that Sakura has a chance to.

Becuase he does not think that way and tries to debate for other outcome.
 

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Becuase he does not think that way and tries to debate for other outcome.

I mean I would've disagreed but I would've gained an understanding and been less biased if they gave Sakura and chance, and not saying that Choji stomps. But I can't be unbiased when it comes to Tsunade.
 

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I mean I would've disagreed but I would've gained an understanding and been less biased if they gave Sakura and chance, and not saying that Choji stomps. But I can't be unbiased when it comes to Tsunade.

So, that's the end of this thread, right? No more fangirlish comments that only serve to raise post count? Is it finally over?
 

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I mean I would've disagreed but I would've gained an understanding and been less biased if they gave Sakura and chance, and not saying that Choji stomps. But I can't be unbiased when it comes to Tsunade.

Why would I argue my case with someone with such bias? What's the point? You've clearly already decided the outcome of this thread and every thread you make so why should anyone actually present a good debate to you. My argument was also totally legitimate. It wasn't 'unfair' or 'mean'- I put forward the fact that Chouji wins medium difficulty in my first post. Because i'm not going to lie to you and myself just to please you when you've made a matchup which is clearly in Chouji's favour.

Stop demoting other characters to make your favourite shine a little better you stupid little girl. Notice how my first post was really polite? You go picking fights this is what you get, a forum of people hating you.
 

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I mean I would've disagreed but I would've gained an understanding and been less biased if they gave Sakura and chance, and not saying that Choji stomps. But I can't be unbiased when it comes to Tsunade.

See; when people debate they calculate both sides and their advantages and think what would be the most possible outcome; and debate for that side if the matchup is not already established by both sides. Or they will choose the side they want and debate for it.

Besides; you are keep saying they don't give Sakura a chance but you don't seem to give Chouji a chance either. Just looking from one view of perception does not work; since everyone has a right to think what they want and debate for it.
 
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