Itachi's stamina "problems"...

[RikudouMadara]

I agree. Also...I believe a full healthy Itachi could fight for up to 20 hours without stopping. Just my opinion

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Because he does? Lol

*looks at avatar sig and name*
*lols*

 

[Avery Namikaze]

*looks at avatar sig and name*
*lols*

Derpsengan!

Also Itachi is my second fav.

 

[Draphsin]

Another amazing thing about Itachi's stamina that people still miss is that he was able to maintain susanoo up until his death, he never once deactivated susanoo as he was dying.

Itachi also has his sharingan activated at all times whereas sasuke still deactivates his from time to time.

All in all, great thread, the "Itachi has sh*t stamina" posts need to stop U_U.

 

[General PSX360]

:snick:Other than his low stamina, till this day I wonder what disease Itachi was suffering from...

 

[Dantee]

yeah but he died after lol. and clones once dispelled return the chakra back to the user, making them isnt the problem the problem is that you split your chakra pool into pieces. which is why shinobi like itachi and kakashi use them for mere seconds as a surprise factor while others like naruto, kisame etc use them for a numerical advantage, because they can afford it.

anyhow, compared to sasuke with the ems and even kakashi vs pain (let alone now), that list while not bad at all isnt particularly impressive. and the thing people need to consider is that while itachi is generally good enough to beat opponents unversed in genjutsu with base sharingan, like deidara or base naruto, every skilled opponent he's faced has forced him to use the ms (pt1 kakashi, jiraiya, sasuke, hydra orochimaru). (the first orochimaru fight was a lesson not an outright defeat, orochimaru could shrug off a wound like that like it was nothing, if itachi really wanted the kill oro there it would have warranted the totsuka sword ie full susanoo, oro can best both tsukuyomi and amaterasu).

while the ms is his trump card (it was the only thing which made him superior to sasuke, who bested him in pretty much every shinobi art in the fight), it is also his greatest risk as he is practically spending large chunks of stamina, and losing sight with every single use. face it, apart from the sasuke fight where itachi could go all out and beyond, the other fights where he used the ms he made a quick getaway soon after, and that's with using just one ms technique. the way itachi fought vs sasuke was suicidal,but to replicate that against other opponents would leave itachi closer to death and blindness every time. add the pain of using the ms and those are pretty large drawbacks imo.

If we're talking about vs threads exclusively Itachi would hypothetically of course fight to death with no remorse because that's how we debate. Itachi is known for holding back on his opponents for being a pacifist and yes of course for high tier fighters he will need to rely on his MS because it hold his best techs. I don't see anything wrong with that.

The crow clone he used on Naruto is the same he used against Sasuke. He said "i've important matters...". He was talking about reaching Sasuke there. He use a karasu bunshin with crows as mediums. Crows themselve can fly to reach other destinations. Besides that, not a bad thread

Honestly never thought about that.

He did not use Amaterasu two times, only one.

And I find that bad

No I think he used one that set the forest on fire and then the next hit Sasuke

 

[Draphsin]

No I think he used one that set the forest on fire and then the next hit Sasuke

Actually he used it a few times

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<< (he used it twice here).

He also put out his amaterasu twice (also strains the eyes) on the ground in [1] & on sasuke

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[Optimistic]

A flawless thread from a flawless member.Nice.

 

[Stark]

i dont need to read this to know itachi is shit tier
im just saiyan

Yet he is in your sig, sigh* children..

 

[Bogard]

Honestly never thought about that.

No problem. We're humans after all. We learn everyday

Actually he used it a few times

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<< (he used it twice here).

He also put out his amaterasu twice (also strains the eyes) on the ground in [1] & on sasuke

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That was just the effect of the second Amaterasu travelling to reach Sasuke. Sasuke said himself he only used 2:

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[Blaze Release]

Itachi's stamina problems is exaggerated by opposing fans of other characters and underestimated by itachi fans
Its fair game i suppose. But his stamina is bang on average.

However this 'problem' has been nullified as much as possible by kishi examples are:

• His use of karasu bunshin's requires less chakra than the kage bunshin
• Excels at chakra control
• Main form of art is genjutsu which outside the ms seems not to take quiet as much chakra as in his 30% state used 2 forms of genjutsu and prior to fighting sasuke used it on naruto and later had a dwell with sasuke
• Outside of the ms, he is able to use more techniques and that serves him well since the ms is more of a last resort than anything
• Has techniques that if it lands more or less gives him victory
• Has foresight and intelligence allows him to land these techniques

Besides every shinobi he has beaten or shinobi's that has admitted inferiority one way or another all have greater reserves than him. Including kisame, arguable the non jin with the greatest reserve.

Stamina problems?.
He keeps his sharingan activated 24/7 like nobody's business =D

 

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[Dantee]

Actually he used it a few times

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<< (he used it twice here).

He also put out his amaterasu twice (also strains the eyes) on the ground in [1] & on sasuke

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Liike Bogard already pointed out it seems like it was only 2. However, extinguishing the flames do seem to take a toll seeing as how Sasuke was in a similar state extenguishing flames.

Itachi's stamina problems is exaggerated by opposing fans of other characters and underestimated by itachi fans
Its fair game i suppose. But his stamina is bang on average.

However this 'problem' has been nullified as much as possible by kishi examples are:

• His use of karasu bunshin's requires less chakra than the kage bunshin
• Excels at chakra control
• Main form of art is genjutsu which outside the ms seems not to take quiet as much chakra as in his 30% state used 2 forms of genjutsu and prior to fighting sasuke used it on naruto and later had a dwell with sasuke
• Outside of the ms, he is able to use more techniques and that serves him well since the ms is more of a last resort than anything
• Has techniques that if it lands more or less gives him victory
• Has foresight and intelligence allows him to land these techniques

Besides every shinobi he has beaten or shinobi's that has admitted inferiority one way or another all have greater reserves than him. Including kisame, arguable the non jin with the greatest reserve.

Stamina problems?.
He keeps his sharingan activated 24/7 like nobody's business =D

All very true. Especially kisame showing his inferiority by always getting bossed around by Itachi. Kisame is the one person who doesn't follow people weaker than him.

 

[Draphsin]

No problem. We're humans after all. We learn everyday
That was just the effect of the second Amaterasu travelling to reach Sasuke. Sasuke said himself he only used 2:

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He activated it twice but he shot out more than 2 streams of flames. He shot out that third birst which missed sasuke initially, although it was still part of his second "activation".

Liike Bogard already pointed out it seems like it was only 2. However, extinguishing the flames do seem to take a toll seeing as how Sasuke was in a similar state extenguishing flames.

Yeah I realized that there was only 2 activations but he shot out 3 bursts.

 

[Strict]

Itachi also endured his Tsukuyomi being broken what put a noticeable strain on him. The two Amaterasu of him were also used on a greater scale, even more the second one where 4 respective flames were created. He even stopped taking his drugs which were a prevention for his illness to last shorter against Sasuke.

 

[blazekev90]

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Blame Kish! There are too many instances when we can say his stamina is ass

 

[FloriGlori]

Indeed. While it is true that healthy Itachi does not exist, it is baffling how crowds of people consider Itachi at his illnesses peak, a virtually dead and nearly blind person alive merely due to medication [

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], the only canon Itachi, while in truth, we witnessed various actions of a healthier one. Even then, what he made of his poor stamina and damaged vision was impressive.

As for the thread, you pointed out most factors of necessity, though even then, three further aspects escaped your attention.

It wasn't just Tsukuyomi's mere usage; the fact that it was broken [

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] further strained his eyes and body. Compared to successful usage, an even more intense version for that matter, the backlash was considerably higher [

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Even though he used Amaterasu only twice, the second usage is considerable. While regularly only small amounts of flames are called forth [

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], Itachi greatly stretched his second attack [

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] and produced enough flames to encompass nearly half the forest surrounding the Uchiha palast's roof [

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]. If one bears in mind that all those flames consist of Chakra, producing such magnitudes is an honorable feat.

He extinguished the black flames devouring Sasuke's wing, which was shown to be considerably straining as well [

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[Multiply]

It was stated he has horrible stamina.
Databook gave him a 2.5

Quit trying to refute databook and manga. It's getting annoying with you fanboys. U_U

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[Prince Charles]

This was already common knowledge to me. Nice thread, Indeed his stamina is truly underrated. It's right on average or a tiny bit above.

 

[Blaze Release]

All very true. Especially kisame showing his inferiority by always getting bossed around by Itachi. Kisame is the one person who doesn't follow people weaker than him.

First mistake people make is to state chakra = stamina, which is wrong though not saying itachi is a chakra tank because he isn't.

Second mistake is the assumption that an opponent will in a fight last till the dying states therefore outlast him.
Only true time this happened was agains't sasuke who he had plans for.

When he has overcame opponents with higher reserves before neither one of the them run out.

Finally he showed 3 sets of illusions excluding the one prior to his fight with sasuke on naruto and excluding tsukuyomi.

First is the dwell with sasuke with

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Second was to show madara/izuna's history

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Third was when he showed sasuke something that looked like a statute with 4 eyes

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Finally the extraction of the tailed beasts using the Fūinjutsu: Genryū Kyūfūjin was said to take 3 days and 3 nights

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My boy was there for those 3 days and 3 nights pouring his chakra to seal the beasts and that takes quiet a lot of out of even shinobi's with hugh reserves