Itachi's Ability Analysis

[Airbear]

Deadpool did u just say that itachi has never placed anyone in a reality-simulation genjutsu?

ur bias is showing just like ur ignorance of the manga... lol nuff said

 

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@DeadPool You did it again. I'm not going to waste time talking about the story and plot when I'm clearly discussing the techniques of a person. Which, according to your logic, is meddling with his 'established' placing. Then you go and say I should do a 'hype' thread about an underdog? Again, using your rationale, there is no purpose to that. I would only be interfering with and detouring their official placements. Furthermore, even if his position is orthodox, why couldn't I discuss his abilities? There are people who forgot, overlooked, or misunderstand some components of the manga or the mechanics of an ability. You proved that many times within your posts; feeling chakra being controlled, Itachi never using reality-simulation genjutsu, he doesn't have low stamina, it never hindered him in battle (he was injured by that windmill shuriken due to this, his speed/reflex/mobility wasn't the same. He clenched his chest and started coughing up blood due to the disease, thus decreasing the levels of his susano'o) etc. So you see, you're a prime example of why threads like this are created, about ANY character. It's a fact some people are misinformed, that's the purpose of threads like these. It doesn't matter if you know everything, there are those who don't. Additionally, I have manga pages for the things I said, which means people can interpret them on their own and is free to disagree if they wish. Though even if there were some things wrong in the OP, your misconstrued commentary is the leading exemplar of why this thread isn't in vain.


It's also beneficial for me, I can copy and paste segments if the need ever arises. I know you're going to try and refute his low-stamina and the hindrance his disease caused him in battle. Exactly why, is beyond me. All I know is that I'm done entertaining this.

 

[Helikido]

@TAC Thanks!


@DeadPool You did it again. I'm not going to waste time talking about the story and plot when I'm clearly discussing the techniques of a person. Which, according to your logic, is meddling with his 'established' placing. Then you go and say I should do a 'hype' thread about an underdog? Again, using your rationale, there is no purpose to that. I would only be interfering with and detouring their official placements. Furthermore, even if his position is orthodox, why couldn't I discuss his abilities? There are people who forgot, overlooked, or misunderstand some components of the manga or the mechanics of an ability. You proved that many times within your posts; feeling chakra being controlled, Itachi never using reality-simulation genjutsu, he doesn't have low stamina, it never hindered him in battle (he was injured by that windmill shuriken due to this, his speed/reflex/mobility wasn't the same. He started coughing up blood due to the disease, thus decreasing the levels of his susano'o) etc. So you see, you're a prime example of why threads like this are created, about ANY character. It's a fact some people are misinformed, that's the purpose of threads like these. It doesn't matter if you know everything, there are those who don't. Additionally, I have manga pages for the things I said, which means people can interpret them on their own and is free to disagree if they wish. Though even if there were some things wrong in the OP, your misconstrued commentary is the leading exemplar of why this thread isn't in vain.


It's also beneficial for me, I can copy and paste segments if the need ever arises. I know you're going to try and refute his low-stamina and the hindrance his disease caused him in battle. Exactly why, is beyond me. All I know is that I'm done entertaining this.

I'll let ya know I've book marked this. I'm gonna need it soon and I'll give proper credit lol.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Also OP, you forgot to mention that itachi also has KA at his disposal.

Itachi never had access to KA. It was still recharging while in his possession, and then he gave it away before it was done. It's technically at Naruto's disposal.

Its like you don't even read the manga.. The first time, Danzo didn't realize he was in a genjutsu until Sasuke made it OBVIOUS, by making Itachi appear from crows..

The 2nd time he didn't notice it at ALL because the genjutsu had nothing out ordinary, the only change was the state of the eye..

Itachi hasn't used reality simulation genjutsu? what manga are you reading? how do you think he beat deidara?


Not reading the article because they hold no value to the argument.. Naruto is FILLED with plot holes and things that could have been executed in other ways that would make more sense... Nagato/Tobi not attacking the village earlier is just one of MANY of these things..
Ehh I'm done

Itachi was the genjutsu.

Indeed, Sasuke didn't make any illusions that seemed out of place or defied any logic. Sasuke took advantage of the fact that Danzo didn't know how long his own eyes stayed open, so Danzo didn't even really pay attention to it and Sasuke capitalized. It was very clever. All other genjutsus are always weird, like being pinned by spikes that appear out of nowhere or turned 2D.

He beat Deidara with an illusion that made no sense. It would had been believable and even reality-simulating had he tricked Deidara into wrapping his clay centipede around something else that Itachi made to look like himself, but what happened made no sense at all. Deidara controlled his clay centipede to crawl under the floor boards and pop out around Itachi... but then it turned out that Deidara had his centipede crawl 10 feet under the floor infront of him... only to pop out around himself? No. That's like putting someone in an illusion where they are shooting zombies across the street, but they are actually pointing the gun at their own head. That makes no logical sense.

They do hold value to the context of what you were suggesting to me, regarding the literary suspension of disbelief and the author defying their own made-up rules. Plus they are just enjoyable reads, and if you've never been to that website before, you may be there a while reading other articles.

Okay, nice chatting.

Deadpool did u just say that itachi has never placed anyone in a reality-simulation genjutsu?

ur bias is showing just like ur ignorance of the manga... lol nuff said

Insteaed of attacking me like a child on the playground, care to counter my argument as a rational adult? I recall Itachi making giant spikes appear out of nowhere, make people become 2D, making faces appear on people. Although, now that I think about it, there is what he did against Bee... so okay, I'm mistaken. Sadly, you did nothing to help me reach this conclusion because of your immaturity.

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@DeadPool You did it again. I'm not going to waste time talking about the story and plot when I'm clearly discussing the techniques of a person. Which, according to your logic, is meddling with his 'established' placing. Then you go and say I should do a 'hype' thread about an underdog? Again, using your rationale, there is no purpose to that. I would only be interfering with and detouring their official placements. Furthermore, even if his position is orthodox, why couldn't I discuss his abilities? There are people who forgot, overlooked, or misunderstand some components of the manga or the mechanics of an ability. You proved that many times within your posts; feeling chakra being controlled, Itachi never using reality-simulation genjutsu, he doesn't have low stamina, it never hindered him in battle (he was injured by that windmill shuriken due to this, his speed/reflex/mobility wasn't the same. He clenched his chest and started coughing up blood due to the disease, thus decreasing the levels of his susano'o) etc. So you see, you're a prime example of why threads like this are created, about ANY character. It's a fact some people are misinformed, that's the purpose of threads like these. It doesn't matter if you know everything, there are those who don't. Additionally, I have manga pages for the things I said, which means people can interpret them on their own and is free to disagree if they wish. Though even if there were some things wrong in the OP, your misconstrued commentary is the leading exemplar of why this thread isn't in vain.


It's also beneficial for me, I can copy and paste segments if the need ever arises. I know you're going to try and refute his low-stamina and the hindrance his disease caused him in battle. Exactly why, is beyond me. All I know is that I'm done entertaining this.

The techniques of Itachi which are story and plot based which isn't mutually exclusive to the premise of my argument.

The thing about underdogs is that people forget, overlook, or mistake their abilities. That does upset me at times. In Itachi's case, I think only in rare instances would people forget, overlook, or mistake any of his abilities. He is one of the most prominent and popular characters in the series, everyone generally regards him as a very high-tiered character along with others such as Minato, Nagato, etc. To that end I do feel that this thread is redundant and, to be honest, is just a propaganda tool. Why hype one of the most hyped, nay, overhyped characters on these boards? There are already people that believe that Itachi can do impossible things like defeat Madara, Hashirama, all three Sannin at the same time, all of the Gokages at the same time, all of Kabuto and all of his Edo Tenseis at the same time, Juubito, etc. Why? Because people apply no-limit fallacies to his abilities which these types of topics help to populate. To be fair, I may be misjudging you and this topic a bit. I will admit that what you wrote in your OP is well written and lacks typical trollish statements that I am accustomed to.

Itachi was also taking a dive against Sasuke, he wouldn't had performed to the best of his abilities regardless. I don't even see why you're bringing that up about his disease hindering him, unless you're trying to promote some belief that he's untouchable. There's also the fact that he could barely see anymore and Sasuke cleverly hid that shuriken in the shadow of another shuriken, which Itachi didn't even notice until it was too late, which are details that you're forgetting. Also as I said, his physical condition was a result of Susanoo. MS is a double-edged sword, it gave him access to great power but at a great price. These and other issues are points your topic never touches upon, it's not an unbiased analysis of Itachi's abilities, which suggests to me that it's intended purpose was to sway opinions to further match your own.

Well I explained my purpose here, although I suppose not formally. There are two sides of the coin and I just want your analysis to inform people of both sides of the coin. You do though have so far disregarded some of my input. I will also say though that I perhaps did a poor job initiating my stance in this topic, I have been under time restraints which restricts me from engaging in lengthy, or consistent, discussions such as these.

 

[Helikido]

Itachi never had access to KA. It was still recharging while in his possession, and then he gave it away before it was done. It's technically at Naruto's disposal.



Itachi was the genjutsu.

Indeed, Sasuke didn't make any illusions that seemed out of place or defied any logic. Sasuke took advantage of the fact that Danzo didn't know how long his own eyes stayed open, so Danzo didn't even really pay attention to it and Sasuke capitalized. It was very clever. All other genjutsus are always weird, like being pinned by spikes that appear out of nowhere or turned 2D.

He beat Deidara with an illusion that made no sense. It would had been believable and even reality-simulating had he tricked Deidara into wrapping his clay centipede around something else that Itachi made to look like himself, but what happened made no sense at all. Deidara controlled his clay centipede to crawl under the floor boards and pop out around Itachi... but then it turned out that Deidara had his centipede crawl 10 feet under the floor infront of him... only to pop out around himself? No. That's like putting someone in an illusion where they are shooting zombies across the street, but they are actually pointing the gun at their own head. That makes no logical sense.

They do hold value to the context of what you were suggesting to me, regarding the literary suspension of disbelief and the author defying their own made-up rules. Plus they are just enjoyable reads, and if you've never been to that website before, you may be there a while reading other articles.

Okay, nice chatting.



Insteaed of attacking me like a child on the playground, care to counter my argument as a rational adult? I recall Itachi making giant spikes appear out of nowhere, make people become 2D, making faces appear on people. Although, now that I think about it, there is what he did against Bee... so okay, I'm mistaken. Sadly, you did nothing to help me reach this conclusion because of your immaturity.



The techniques of Itachi which are story and plot based which isn't mutually exclusive to the premise of my argument.

The thing about underdogs is that people forget, overlook, or mistake their abilities. That does upset me at times. In Itachi's case, I think only in rare instances would people forget, overlook, or mistake any of his abilities. He is one of the most prominent and popular characters in the series, everyone generally regards him as a very high-tiered character along with others such as Minato, Nagato, etc. To that end I do feel that this thread is redundant and, to be honest, is just a propaganda tool. Why hype one of the most hyped, nay, overhyped characters on these boards? There are already people that believe that Itachi can do impossible things like defeat Madara, Hashirama, all three Sannin at the same time, all of the Gokages at the same time, all of Kabuto and all of his Edo Tenseis at the same time, Juubito, etc. Why? Because people apply no-limit fallacies to his abilities which these types of topics help to populate. To be fair, I may be misjudging you and this topic a bit. I will admit that what you wrote in your OP is well written and lacks typical trollish statements that I am accustomed to.

Itachi was also taking a dive against Sasuke, he wouldn't had performed to the best of his abilities regardless. I don't even see why you're bringing that up about his disease hindering him, unless you're trying to promote some belief that he's untouchable. There's also the fact that he could barely see anymore and Sasuke cleverly hid that shuriken in the shadow of another shuriken, which Itachi didn't even notice until it was too late, which are details that you're forgetting. Also as I said, his physical condition was a result of Susanoo. MS is a double-edged sword, it gave him access to great power but at a great price. These and other issues are points your topic never touches upon, it's not an unbiased analysis of Itachi's abilities, which suggests to me that it's intended purpose was to sway opinions to further match your own.

Well I explained my purpose here, although I suppose not formally. There are two sides of the coin and I just want your analysis to inform people of both sides of the coin. You do though have so far disregarded some of my input. I will also say though that I perhaps did a poor job initiating my stance in this topic, I have been under time restraints which restricts me from engaging in lengthy, or consistent, discussions such as these.

Some of you input completely disregards manga fact. That's why some of it is discarded.

He beat Deidara with an illusion that made no sense. It would had been believable and even reality-simulating had he tricked Deidara into wrapping his clay centipede around something else that Itachi made to look like himself, but what happened made no sense at all. Deidara controlled his clay centipede to crawl under the floor boards and pop out around Itachi... but then it turned out that Deidara had his centipede crawl 10 feet under the floor infront of him... only to pop out around himself? No. That's like putting someone in an illusion where they are shooting zombies across the street, but they are actually pointing the gun at their own head. That makes no logical sense.

WTF?? Did you just completely ignore that this IS part of Itachis genjutsu prowess? Thats exactly why I am going to finally label you as a Troll

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Some of you input completely disregards manga fact. That's why some of it is discarded.



WTF?? Did you just completely ignore that this IS part of Itachis genjutsu prowess? Thats exactly why I am going to finally label you as a Troll

Then you wouldn't mind elaborating.

Care to explain to me how the genjutsu Itachi used on Deidara made any sense then? Itachi made Deidara believe that he was wrapping the clay centipede around Itachi, that part makes sense... but tell me how it ended up wrapping around Deidara.
As I said, that's like making someone think they are shooting zombies across the street. So they would have a gun in their hand pointed outwards, shooting at imaginary things, or perhaps their own allies that are made to look like zombies. So HOW does the person end up pointing the gun at their own head if they are aiming at the zombies across the street? Elaborate for me.

 

[Osmon]

WOOOW Awesome Analysis =D=D

 

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Yes, this is a tl;dr, you are warned.




SHARINGAN


Replication:


As we all know, the sharingan can duplicate abilities as long as they aren't inherent or derived from the users own innate ability. Kakashi, who is well adept at using the Sharingan, yet not in the same tier as Itachi, is able to copy jutsu while contemporaneously performing it [

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]. Kakashi beat him to the punch, it's not necessary to know what the technique even looks like...

In most cases, a visual of the jutsu is a prerequisite to learning it (obviously not if you're making your own jutsu from scratch). This speaks volumes of the sharingan's insight. Itachi, with his incredible hand-speed and advanced sharingan would be a problem for any water or fire style user who is not uchiha themselves.


Prediction:

Another known aspect of the sharingan is its aptitude of prevision. This statement by Haku says it all, while utilizing a jutsu such as this [

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].Mind you, Haku is no idiot. He is extremely intelligent. Even with that immense speed, he recognizes the danger of the Sharingan's precognition abilities. In case you missed it, I'm referring to his statement about attacking Sasuke head on. Kishi gives us a visualization later on [

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]. In the next page, following 'J', Naruto tries to sneak up on him from behind [

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]. Remember, this is kyuubi enhanced Naruto. This next page showcased Kyuubi Cloak Naruto once again attacking Sasuke from BEHIND. [

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]. While not as effortlessly as before, Sasuke holds his own against a Naruto that is way beyond base speed.


Now previous to all that, Sasuke was taking a royal beating until he acquired his 3 tomoe. As you can see, the sharingan can compensate even for vast and apparent speed differences; to the point where the opponent's speed becomes a non-factor. I'm sure you recognize the potential when this particular sharingan faculty is supplemented with a superior speed; let alone shunsin no jutsu.

I said this earlier:



It's actually more extensive. Executing any jutsu that requires hand-signs while Itachi is watching is not a smart move. A sage, who was capable of sensing and dodging amaterasu fail prey to Itachi's precognition [

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]. Obviously, the user is at a mobile disadvantage when building up chakra, weaving handsigns, etc. That's the thing most don't realize, the precog can be utilized in more ways than one. Most just think in terms of taijutsu. In battle, all one needs is to find an opening. It doesn't matter if you're touching each other noses, or several feet apart. As you can see in page 'N', Kabuto was a good distance, yet Itachi weaved the handsigns and executed the technique before Kabuto could exit his jutsu.

It can even copy subtle movements of the pencil [

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Almost all battles requires the use of hand movements....


Genjutsu:

This technique is broken. First, let me say this since a lot seem to ignore it, no where in the manga does it say that one can FEEL their chakra being controlled. It doesn't exist. The only way is through visual perception; or a collapse in reality. All throughout the manga, this is the only way someone realized they were in a genjutsu, unless they possessed a sharingan; the insight is remarkable. This renders any level of skill to break out of it useless; if the caster choose not to make it obvious. How would they know? Even Kabuto, who is a GENIUS, didn't realize he was in a genjutsu until reality became contorted.

Now of course, eye contact is required. However, this only means getting close to a sharingan user. Refer to page 'F'. This is what makes engaging an experienced uchiha in a taijutsu fight frightening. For some reason, some think it's easy to avoid eye contact in a fight, which is definitely not true when your opponent is seeking to make eye contact with you. Not only can the opponent adjust position to gain eye contact, but you realize how hard it is not to change focus on a reflex?

Spoiler

Reflex
noun
1.

an action that is performed as a response to a stimulus and without conscious thought.

adjective
1.

(of an action) performed without conscious thought as an automatic response to a stimulus.

No I'm not trying to insult anyone's intelligence, I'm propagating the 'out of sight, out of mind' idiom. I think it's true in this case, we sometimes fail to see the bigger picture. A sudden or suspicious movement can attract the eyes, involuntarily. And as I said, there's always the option of the sharingan user forcefully making eye contact by movement of their head, body, etc.


This should provide some extra clarity for the following pages [

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]. After stating how difficult it would be to fight an Uchiha without looking in the eyes, Chiyo goes on to state, "If it's one on one, surely flee." Yes, I know there are monsters out there that are capable of changing the terrain who can fight an Uchiha one on one. I'm merely making a point that a lot of people seem to miss.

On to the next one...


Seeing through the kagebunshin:



"What is this guy talking about, the sharingan can't see through clones." Please bare with me. u.u While it's true that the sharingan cannot tell a clone apart, there is indeed a way. Thanks to Tobirama's explanation [

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Itachi's Kunai skills.


We've seen what Itachi can do with kunai while falling upside down [

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]. If that isn't a great display of the fortitude of his focus, precision, and skill then I don't know what is. Most people are more likely to stab themselves in the foot while trying to throw a sharp object while falling, let alone hit a target that's hiding behind a boulder; on the bulls-eyes. Another notable feat of his is what he did to Nagato's summons [

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"The greatest benefit of this jutsu is that the process of taking out a ninja tool, taking a stance and putting it into action is sped up to the extreme."

"Ninja tools are deployed at truly lightning speeds that literally take the air out of an adversary's sails and allow the caster to take the initiative in battle."


Here's the fight [

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]. Sasuke is no slow poke, yet even with the advantage he had in that situation, Itachi not only matches him; but manages to make a handsign for a clone. So wait, not only would opponents have to be mindful of their blind spots, watch the trajectory of deflected kunai, but also have to keep up with with the sheer SPEED that Itachi is able to deploy his ninja tools while watching Itachi AND any clone he might make in the process? That's insane! Let me reiterate; Sasuke had the advantage. It's well within reason to assume any person even a bit slower and or skillful (it's not just about speed, it's also about skill) would have been killed. Furthermore, Sasuke is the only user of that technique, others would have to take the stance, and put it into action the way we are accustomed to.

This may be more of a display of strength than anything, but I figured I'd put it in here anyway [

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ITACHI'S GENJTSU PROWESS

Basic Genjutsu:

Ephemeral


I'll start off with what is commonly referred to as Ephemeral. It requires no eye contact; simply the point of a finger [

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]. The user is then, put into a genjutsu. However, there's something interesting happening here, in Naruto's teammates dialogue [

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]. Notice their words, those are thoughts that should only be known to Naruto. There are two possibilities: Itachi was able to dig deep into his thoughts/experiences, or it's a genjutsu that manifest one's guilt independent of the caster.

If it's the first, which does have some merit [

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], then he could most likely get the rundown on an opponent's techniques. Remember, this only requires the point of a finger. Then there's the possibility that this guilt manifested on its own, which could definitely hamper one's fighting spirit, or at the very least make for a convenient distraction. We've seen it multiple times. With Kakashi [

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].And obviously, Naruto, he started crying [

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] Now one could say there's a difference, the person under the spell would know know that they're being duped. However, one could also argue that seeing the faces and hearing the words of loved ones is more damaging that critique coming from the mouths of recognized enemies.

Dusk Crow Genjutsu

Then there's his Dusk Crow Genjutsu, which requires no handsigns nor a point of the finger. Despite Naruto's caution [

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]. Obviously, the aforementioned and all makes CQC with Itachi very dangerous. After getting caught in a genjutsu, it would only take him a couple seconds at most to kill you.

Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes Technique



It requires eye contact, and while the opponent would obviously know they're in a genjutsu due to restricted movement, performing the seal to cancel it would take time due to the paralysis illusion [

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Tsukyomi:

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Itachi's Clone Techniques.


Crow Clone Technique.

This technique uses crows as a medium, which results in a clutter of crows when hit and dispersed; blocking the opponent's vision. Itachi was even able to get the jump on Kabuto [

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]-, a sensor with enhanced speed due to SM. Granted, he still managed to dodge, but he also evaded susano'o arrows and amaterasu more successfully.

Itachi's crow clone technique seems to have an edge over the regular kage bunshin technique. In the case of the standard Kage Bunshin, it's blatantly obvious that the user created clones; they appear next to the user [

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]. And as you can see in the last page, they also requite lots of chakra. Even Tobirama with his monstrous could only create two.

Compared to Itachi's crow clone genjutsu; it can spring up out of nowhere, even with no signs of smoke [

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Clone Great Explosion:

This one is very effective, it signals the end if the opponent is caught in its explosion [

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AMATERASU

People always say that Itachi can only use 2-3 amaterasu. What is often overlooked, is the amount of amaterasu Itachi used in his fight with Sasuke. He managed to engulf half of the forest surrounding the building [

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]. Then he extinguished it [

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]. He later proves it's well within his capability to control the quantity [

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Also keep in mind he used the Tsukyomi earlier, as well as a few other jutsu.


SUSANO'O

Susano'o is a materialization of the users chakra, but how can it materialize if the user has little to no chakra left? Itachi, while he was near death, managed to manifest his Susano's complete form. Not to mention, his body was very weak at that time; due to the disease. This actually speaks volumes of Itachi's chakra control/levels; especially since most brush him off as a guy who can't hold out for very long. Yet, he was able to materiliaze his chakra on this level [

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] after performing very chakra-taxing jutsu and even outlasted Sasuke.

Susano'o users can even partially manifest susano'o; presenting simple ribs for protection

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. If Itachi really wanted to, he could even start a battle wearing a simple cloak and still get pretty far before tiring [

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], pay close attention to the first two panels. It would be less onerous on his body and chakra. As we saw, Madara managed to block attacks with a susano'o cloak (no bones or ribs) [

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]. That's basically all Itachi would need depending on his opponent; he could fight with that itty bitty cloak. As demonstrated above, his chakra levels and or control is certainly great enough for it.


He is also able to go on the offense/defense with Susano'o very fast. No Susano'o [

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]. As you can see, he managed to make a fist and extend it to protect sasuke, at the last moment. I'm not surprised, since he managed to activate this [

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] before being struck by lightning. And yes this was real lightning, so there's no hyperbole here. If you're within in Itachi's range, he could activate his susano'o and smash you before your mind can process his actions.


ITACHI'S SPEED

I'm not going to get much into this. I mean the guy has a 5 in the databooks and was able to keep up with Bee and Naruto effortlessly

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. You can also see that distance he's able to cover in such a short amount of time.

As for his handsigns speed, this [

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] along with his execution in that shuriken skirmish with Sasuke says it all.


THE POWER IN A NAME



Also, with no knowledge of Itachi but his history with the leaf village, opponents will NOT start off using large scale techniques. How would they know he has a disease? Actually, because of his clan, they would probably assume he has above average chakra level; certainly more than they do. So, they would try to preserve as much chakra as possible, if they're smart. This works in Itachi's favor; because he could finish them off before they bring out the big guns. Also, with his Sharingan, he could see how much chakra they have remaining; which is key to outlasting them.


Well, that's enough for the analysis.



Awaits:

Spoiler

Minato still solos

Minato> Itachi

[Insert Character] > Itachi

[Insert Jutsu] > Itachi

Aids/Disease is greater than Itachi (and all its variants)

"Too bad he's dead"

"Itachi fanboy" (and all its variants)

Remember, this is not a VS thread. I may have contrasted some characters a bit, but it was only for comparison. Also I'm aware I left out some things; mainly Yasaka Magatama, Yata Mirror, and Izanami.



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Anyways it's funny, because Itachi was never serious or went all out in his battles. So, I just thought this image was very fitting to conclude this thread.

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Actually the Sharingan can see thru clone jutsus as Sasuke did to Naruto in part 1 with 2 Tomoes. It's the byakugan that can't see thru Clones. Before I thought a Sharingan user can copy any jutsu of another element but it seems they can only copy jutsus if they have that element as well. We don't see Sasuke or Itachi copying other element jutsus, only Kakashi who showed Earth, Water, Lightning and fire. While Teaching Naruto about his Wind nature Kakashi implied he had more than just lightning so even tho Kakashi can't use those jutsus without having his Sharingan out, it's because he copied them and need the sharingan to use them again.

As for using the Amaterasu 3 times part, The way I say it is, Itachi can only use 3 MS jutsus chakra wise before he dies. Using Tsukuyomi once, Amaterasu twice and then Susanoo which is what killed him. You can see the pain Itachi was feeling while Using Susanoo and after. The 4th MS jutsu killed him. Itachi can't push himself too far due to his disease and that's one of the reasons he relied on genjutsus, to end fights fast without him having to push himself. It's also have to do with Itachi being a Pacifist.

As for Ninjas who only knew of Itachi's history, Killing an elite clan such as the Uchiha clan by yourself would make anyone cautious. Only thing Is Sasuke knew even Itachi couldn't have killed the Uchihas alone and asked him who helped him and it was Tobi/Obito who helped. As for Chiyo, we have to remember how old she is, like Oonoki who was alive to see Madara, she most likely was around when their were elite sharingan users. Not saying Itachi isn't an elite but I'm saying ninjas who were brought up in a time of war around Madara's time. Madara, Tobirama, Izuna and Hashirama are on a level above Kage while Itachi is on kage level so to see a Uchiha of a high level would make her say too run on a 1 on 1 while we have strong ninjas who wouldn't run such as Minato, Hashirama, Tobirama, Naruto, A, Bee, ect.

 

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Actually the Sharingan can see thru clone jutsus as Sasuke did to Naruto in part 1 with 2 Tomoes. It's the byakugan that can't see thru Clones. Before I thought a Sharingan user can copy any jutsu of another element but it seems they can only copy jutsus if they have that element as well. We don't see Sasuke or Itachi copying other element jutsus, only Kakashi who showed Earth, Water, Lightning and fire. While Teaching Naruto about his Wind nature Kakashi implied he had more than just lightning so even tho Kakashi can't use those jutsus without having his Sharingan out, it's because he copied them and need the sharingan to use them again.

Actually, I never said he coud copy jutsus outside his own elements. I already understood that.

As for using the Amaterasu 3 times part, The way I say it is, Itachi can only use 3 MS jutsus chakra wise before he dies. Using Tsukuyomi once, Amaterasu twice and then Susanoo which is what killed him. You can see the pain Itachi was feeling while Using Susanoo and after. The 4th MS jutsu killed him. Itachi can't push himself too far due to his disease and that's one of the reasons he relied on genjutsus, to end fights fast without him having to push himself. It's also have to do with Itachi being a Pacifist.

If one looks at the sun for too long; the increased exposure would gradually damage the eye. The same could be said if one spends the majority of their time on a computer; close enough to perk their lips and kiss the screen. The same could be said of MS jutsus. The amount of chakra (chakra=lifeforce) used was putting a strain on Itachi's body which was already disease-ridden. Remember, MS jutsus behave no different than other jutsus; they require chakra. The only other side effect is blindness; but this too falls under the same principle of degradation through excessive or extended use. Itachi used a large amount of Amaterasu both times, logically applying more chakra to create the quantity he did. Also, the interval at which he had it spamming would logically further strain his eyes more so than if he did something like this [

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]. I'm aware of how many MS techs he used in that fight, what I'm saying is, if serious, he could have reserved much more chakra (it's the use of chakra that propagated the effects of the disease).

In a nutshell, what I'm saying is that even spamming the grand fireball technique would harm his health if overdone; exercising some restraint would provide room for further use. In the above pic I provided, it would be foolish to think Itachi would be nearly done after utilizing two amaterasu of that scale.

As for Ninjas who only knew of Itachi's history, Killing an elite clan such as the Uchiha clan by yourself would make anyone cautious. Only thing Is Sasuke knew even Itachi couldn't have killed the Uchihas alone and asked him who helped him and it was Tobi/Obito who helped. As for Chiyo, we have to remember how old she is, like Oonoki who was alive to see Madara, she most likely was around when their were elite sharingan users. Not saying Itachi isn't an elite but I'm saying ninjas who were brought up in a time of war around Madara's time. Madara, Tobirama, Izuna and Hashirama are on a level above Kage while Itachi is on kage level so to see a Uchiha of a high level would make her say too run on a 1 on 1 while we have strong ninjas who wouldn't run such as Minato, Hashirama, Tobirama, Naruto, A, Bee, ect.

You misunderstood. There's quite a few that won't run, what I'm saying is they certainly won't expect his chakra reserves to be small or impaired. So, doing jutsus that consumes lots of chakra right off the bat is unlikely (I'm aware that doing so is within some character's fighting style).

WOOOW Awesome Analysis =D=D

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Itachi doesn't need to use his eyes to cast genjutsu, a finger is enough for him to cast genjutsu.[SUP]

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Itachi also explains that he can't use the MS at the moment.[SUP]

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[/SUP] And the reason he couldn't use the MS was because the techniques the Itachi clone could use were limited.[SUP]

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So Finger genjutsu (or Ephemeral as you called it), is not a genjutsu in itself. All Itachi is doing is changing the location from where he casts a genjutsu. He could for example cast Tsukuyomi from his finger.