Itachi wasn't under the influence of KA

[Mellanoma]

Way 1: Edo tensei release

Now that I think on it. Itachi could have broken KA when he stated his consciousness was starting to fade away.

Way 2(More plausible) More than 1 Genjutsu can't work on single person

Also let's not forget Genjutsu is broken by disrupting someone's chakra which White Rage and Sound Genjutsu did during that fight vs Kabuto. Also Sasuke used Sharingan genjutsu on Itachi which would possibly break it as well.

Two genjutsu can't work on 1 person based off of the principle of chakra manipulation. They would cancel each other out or 1 would overpower the other

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

It simply broke him out of Edo Tensei's control. KA's order was to "protect Konoha" and if Itachi was under KA the whole time he wouldn't have let Sasuke go, because Sasuke wanted to harm Konoha.

Some members on this thread are on the right lines. :yeah: Once Itachi knew that Kotomatsukami was casted on him, it eventually wore off. This was indeed similar to what happened to Mifune. Also Itachi had the intentions of protecting Konoha from the very beginning(all thanks to Shisui ). Although it is true that Kotoamatsukami definitely worked on Itachi(a sharingan user) which in other words means, Shisui > Itachi.

PS: As you can understand, Shisui played a huge part in Itachi's life.

 

[Mellanoma]

Some members on this thread are on the right lines. :yeah: Once Itachi knew that Kotomatsukami was casted on him, it eventually wore off. This was indeed similar to what happened to Mifune. Also Itachi had the intentions of protecting Konoha from the very beginning(all thanks to Shisui ). Although it is true that Kotoamatsukami definitely worked on Itachi(a sharingan user) which in other words means, Shisui > Itachi.

PS: As you can understand, Shisui played a huge part in Itachi's life.

everyone knows KA one shots

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Way 2(More plausible) More than 1 Genjutsu can't work on single person

Also let's not forget Genjutsu is broken by disrupting someone's chakra which White Rage and Sound Genjutsu did during that fight vs Kabuto. Also Sasuke used Sharingan genjutsu on Itachi which would possibly break it as well.

Two genjutsu can't work on 1 person based off of the principle of chakra manipulation. They would cancel each other out or 1 would overpower the other

@bold - I don't think this is true. Back when Itachi fought Sasuke. He used Tsukuyomi while using sharingan genjutsu which are both different type of genjutsu. :yeah: Please read the chapter where Itachi tried to take Sasuke's eyes. That itself is a sharingan genjutsu, but then when Sasuke is about to use his curse seal form, Itachi hits Sasuke with Tsukuyomi which is instantly broken by Sasuke. We know Itachi hits Sasuke with Tsukuyomi since even Zetsu comments on it. [

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Although about the concept of how two genjutsu can work in regards to the principle of chakra manipulation, I'm assuming that the second genjutsu would complement the first one and they would somehow conjoin in order to be more effective. hmm

everyone knows KA one shots

Of course, my man Shisui ftw.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Well I Have One Ford For All Solo King Haters "GO FUC* YOURSELF" :bye::gn:

So this was a mature comment.





OT: KA was in effect.


The orders were protect Konoha. This is the benefit of vague orders: prioritizing.

1. Edo Tensei

2. Obito

3. What would be Madara

4. Sasuke

There basically stood four threats to Konoha. His orders are to protect Konoha. There was no order that he had to eliminate the closest threat. Nor was there an order to go by a specific list. Thus, the discretion of following hid orders was up to Itachi. Hence his decision to move on Kabuto.

Furthermore, Itachi did not break his sealing contract as Madara did. He crested a genjutsu that was capable of acting as a shield or barrier. Allowing Itachi to neglect Kabuto's originals orders and re-issuing of orders. The minute Itachi is broken out of KA: he's a pawn. Do note, when Sasuke disrupted his chakra, he was dispelling Tayuya's sound genjutsu. Thus, it exists as an upper layer above Itachi.

Finally, it was only after beating Kabuto that Sasuke completely set in stone he'd destroy Konoha. Even if he was to eliminate the closest threat: it was still Edo Tensei. Then he was being released so it's not like he could do anything.

Itachi didn't break KA.

Two genjutsu can't work on 1 person based off of the principle of chakra manipulation. They would cancel each other out or 1 would overpower the other

Izanami and Tsukiyomi: both were used on Kabuto. Thus, Genjutsu can be layered.

 

[Mellanoma]

So this was a mature comment.





OT: KA was in effect.


The orders were protect Konoha. This is the benefit of vague orders: prioritizing.

1. Edo Tensei

2. Obito

3. What would be Madara

4. Sasuke

There basically stood four threats to Konoha. His orders are to protect Konoha. There was no order that he had to eliminate the closest threat. Nor was there an order to go by a specific list. Thus, the discretion of following hid orders was up to Itachi. Hence his decision to move on Kabuto.

Furthermore, Itachi did not break his sealing contract as Madara did. He crested a genjutsu that was capable of acting as a shield or barrier. Allowing Itachi to neglect Kabuto's originals orders and re-issuing of orders. The minute Itachi is broken out of KA: he's a pawn. Do note, when Sasuke disrupted his chakra, he was dispelling Tayuya's sound genjutsu. Thus, it exists as an upper layer above Itachi.

Finally, it was only after beating Kabuto that Sasuke completely set in stone he'd destroy Konoha. Even if he was to eliminate the closest threat: it was still Edo Tensei. Then he was being released so it's not like he could do anything.

Itachi didn't break KA.




Izanami and Tsukiyomi: both were used on Kabuto. Thus, Genjutsu can be layered.

Tsukiyomi was not used on Kabuto... They were casted by the same eye... Tsukiyomi was used on Sasuke

@bold - I don't think this is true. Back when Itachi fought Sasuke. He used Tsukuyomi while using sharingan genjutsu which are both different type of genjutsu. :yeah: Please read the chapter where Itachi tried to take Sasuke's eyes. That itself is a sharingan genjutsu, but then when Sasuke is about to use his curse seal form, Itachi hits Sasuke with Tsukuyomi which is instantly broken by Sasuke. We know Itachi hits Sasuke with Tsukuyomi since even Zetsu comments on it. [

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Although about the concept of how two genjutsu can work in regards to the principle of chakra manipulation, I'm assuming that the second genjutsu would complement the first one and they would somehow conjoin in order to be more effective. hmm



Of course, my man Shisui ftw.

Not true actually. Tsukyomi was used after they began fighting for real. It was normal sharingan genjutsu before they started fighting

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Tsukiyomi was not used on Kabuto... They were casted by the same eye... Tsukiyomi was used on Sasuke



Not true actually. Tsukyomi was used after they began fighting for real. It was normal sharingan genjutsu before they started fighting

Regardless if it was Tsukiyomi, he used genjutsu to make Kabuto undo Edo Tensei: the whole reason be pulled back Kabuto's hair and looked him in the eye.


Izanami doesn't work by making someone your mindless slave. It makes them trapped in their own mind. Thus, an additional genjutsu had to be ordered to have Kabuto stop Edo Tensei.

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^^^^ looks an awful lot like Genjutsu is being used. Even if it's the simple Sharingan genjutsu. Additionally the next page has Kabuto's body vibrate like hit by genjutsu: since he's already in one... He's put in a second one.

 

[Naijakid]

The manga never mentioned he was under KA

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

The manga never mentioned he was under KA

He is. Or else it would make no sense he broke Edo Tensei's control. He was hit by the KA he originally set up for Sasuke.

 

[VongolaX]

Because stopping Edo tensei that is purpose to fight the shinobi alliance is some how protecting konoha village miles away from the battlefield?

The fact that kabuto said he'll eventually crush the leaf, yet he left him there to life after releasing Edo tensei.

He literally could of cut his neck, instead of telling the truth to Sasuke to complete this KA command.

Good job guys, you really put a lot of thought into this thread.

 

[xxSAGExx]

He planned it before, how is he gonna get affected by it?

No, he didn't plan to have KA used on him, he planned for Sasuke to get his eyes and KA used on Sasuke.

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It simply broke him out of Edo Tensei's control. KA's order was to "protect Konoha" and if Itachi was under KA the whole time he wouldn't have let Sasuke go, because Sasuke wanted to harm Konoha.

No, Itachi layered KA on top of Kabuto's control so if it's gone then nothing stopping Kabuto from controlling Itachi

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. Itachi didn't view Sasuke as a threat to Konoha for a few reasons. First, Sasuke saying he will do something like destroy Konoha doesn't mean it would happen so it's just a potential threat but of no harm as of now. Second, Itachi had faith that Naruto would stop Sasuke if Sasuke every did attack Konoha. He entrusted Naruto with the KA because of that

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and here Itachi talk refers to Sasuke and Naruto

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