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That's white Zetsu, Bogard. Black Zetsu has heavily bolded text with a unique font.

Since the beginning.
 

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with his staying away from Konoha being down to a simple the two parties had made. The real question is why didn't Itachi kill Obito if he had Konoha's best wishes at heart? In the end, the best he could muster was the Amaterasu fail-safe, except he forgot about the 'safe' part.

God, I don't even see why you people even mention the pact when Tobi turning his back on the pact the moment Itachi died proves how little he cared about the pact and how cautious he was about Itachi. Itachi not being able to kill Obito is obvious, just like Deidara's c4 and c0, Konan's paper ocean, Minato and the five Kages didn't kill Obito.

He can run from any battle with Kamui.

On the other hand, if Itachi was such a huge problem while waltzing around Akatsuki, then he could have been handled, but Obito himself stated how often he was amazed by Itachi and how Itachi could kill him if he weren't so cautious with his secrets. (Which entails not fighting, where secrets can be revealed.)
 

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God, I don't even see why you people even mention the pact when Tobi turning his back on the pact the moment Itachi died proves how little he cared about the pact and how much he cared about Itachi. Itachi not being able to kill Obito is obvious, just like Team Kakashi and Deidara's c4 and Minato and etc., etc. didn't kill Obito. He can run from any battle with Kamui. On the other hand, if Itachi was such a huge problem, then he could have been handled, but Obito himself stated how often he was amazed by Itachi and how Itachi could kill him if he weren't so cautious with his secrets. (which entails not fighting, where secrets can be revealed.)

He needed Sasuke to awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan so that he could use him for his purposes, which was clearly indicated in the manga. Nothing more, nothing less. Itachi was but an eyesore who was reluctantly kept alive.
 

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He needed Sasuke to awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan so that he could use him for his purposes, which was clearly indicated in the manga. Nothing more, nothing less. Itachi was but an eyesore who was reluctantly kept alive.

I already told you what was clearly indicated in the manga, because Obito pointblank stated that Itachi could have killed him if he hadn't been so careful around him while he was alive. Your ridiculous bias about Itachi being "causally dealt with" serves no real purpose outside of that pointblank statement.
 

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Itachi when he was alive was around kage level,
nagato,madara,tobi,sm kabuto and hashirama would beat him without much trouble.

Ems sasuke,muu,2nd mizukage,sm jiraiya and some others would beat him with difficulty.
 

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Itachi when he was alive was around kage level,
nagato,madara,tobi,sm kabuto and hashirama would beat him without much trouble.

Ems sasuke,muu,2nd mizukage,sm jiraiya and some others would beat him with difficulty.
 

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I already told you what was clearly indicated in the manga, because Obito pointblank stated that Itachi could have killed him if he hadn't been so careful around him while he was alive. Your bias serves no real purpose outside of that pointblank statement.

It's a shame Itachi didn't know his secrets then. I'm sure Kabuto would've won had he known about Izanami, or Obito if he'd known about 'v2' Hiraishin, or Orochimaru if he'd known about Shiki Fujin
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You forgot that jiraiya beats pain ^

Pointblank statement of course U_U xd
 

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That's white Zetsu, Bogard. Black Zetsu has heavily bolded text with a unique font.

Since the beginning.
Don't know what you're talking about but the funny thing in the story is that Madara didn't knew what happened to either Naruto, didn't knew what Obito did since then, knew nothing about what was going on, something that Black Zetsu must know. Stop wanking characters just by changing manga statements to go with our own will
 

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It's a shame Itachi didn't know his secrets then. I'm sure Kabuto would've won had he known about Izanami.

Kabuto would have lost had he not had knowledge of Tsukuyomi, as he himself admitted. But it doesn't matter. One individual waltzed around the enemy organization and kept them out of Konoha's affairs while the other hid in the shadows and didn't make a move, and didn't even publicly emerge, until the final fight between Itachi and Sasuke was on the horizon. The moment Itachi and Sasuke went at each other, and Tobi knew Itachi's planned death was coming, he sicked Nagato on Konoha. Living Itachi was 100% correct when he called Obito pathetic. He was a one-eyed man lamenting and overreacting to the loss of his childhood, one-sided infatuation.
 

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Don't know what you're talking about but the funny thing in the story is that Madara didn't knew what happened to either Naruto, didn't knew what Obito did since then, knew nothing about what was going on, something that Black Zetsu must know. Stop wanking characters just by changing manga statements to go with our own will

What is so hard to understand about this? Madara implanted his will in Zetsu, just like Minato implanted a part of himself in Naruto or Orochimaru planted himself in Anko. Zetsu had all his knowledge up until that moment, then they splintered in their experiences from that point onward. They weren't linked, but they shared their past. And I'm not changing manga statements. I'm reciting one that you're ignoring. Madara told Obito, pointblank, to consider Black Zetsu as himself.
 

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Kabuto would have lost had he not had knowledge of Tsukuyomi, as he himself admitted. But it doesn't matter. One individual waltzed around the enemy organization and kept them out of Konoha's affairs while the other hid in the shadows and didn't make a move, and didn't even publicly emerge, until the final fight between Itachi and Sasuke was on the horizon. The moment Itachi and Sasuke went at each other, and Tobi knew Itachi's planned death was coming, he sicked Nagato on Konoha. Living Itachi was 100% correct when he called Obito pathetic.

So what? Obito didn't need to do anything. He had everything on lock, Itachi included. You speak as if it was essential for him to emerge from the shadows; Itachi was a double agent, of course he had to actively do things in order for the Akatsuki to refrain from harming Sasuke. But if he ever let on that he wasn't totally committed to the organisation, Obito or Pain would've handily disposed of him. It just wasn't a problem. The poor lad was being manipulated right till the very end (in order for the Akatsuki to collect the Bijuu and for Sasuke to awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan). He was still calling Obito 'Madara' even after being revived with the Edo Tensei (and if he had known something regarding the masked man's identity, he would've told Naruto every little detail). If 'pathetic-one-star-in-databook-intelligence' Obito could do that to Itachi then that's even more shameful on the latter's part.
 

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Lol Itachitards.

Nah, Itachi was shit level, maybe high genin. MAYBE low-mid chunin level at best.

Btw, I'm always 100% right and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. Evidenced by the fact that I'm 100% right therefore everyone who disagrees with me is in fact wrong. Oh, and this isn't circular logic, because remember I'm always right no matter what. Don't even try to argue with me because you're wrong.
 

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Lol Itachitards.

Nah, Itachi was shit level, maybe high genin. MAYBE low-mid chunin level at best.

Btw, I'm always 100% right and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. Evidenced by the fact that I'm 100% right therefore everyone who disagrees with me is in fact wrong. Oh, and this isn't circular logic, because remember I'm always right no matter what. Don't even try to argue with me because you're wrong.

how ironic

you said ussj, wasn't someone to take serious LOL.
 

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how ironic

you said ussj, wasn't someone to take serious LOL.

He's not, he thinks Itachi can beat Hashirama. We all know that's retarded since Itachi is only ~chunin level and I said he's wrong. Since I'm 100% right no exceptions, that means he's wrong.
 

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Lol Itachitards.

Nah, Itachi was shit level, maybe high genin. MAYBE low-mid chunin level at best.

Btw, I'm always 100% right and anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. Evidenced by the fact that I'm 100% right therefore everyone who disagrees with me is in fact wrong. Oh, and this isn't circular logic, because remember I'm always right no matter what. Don't even try to argue with me because you're wrong.

Stick in jiraiya's pants. You shouldn't be coming out spouting bullshit lmao
 

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Itachi is obviously Kage level if he can defeat any of the Five Kage one-on-one, which he can. But plenty of characters can beat Itachi.
 
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