[VS] Itachi vs. War Arc SM Naruto

[Gold Lightning]

cosfrs?

English pls

 

[LuckyMan]

English pls

Chou Odama Senpo Futon Rasenshuriken, it should be in the image OP linked.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Chou Odama Senpo Futon Rasenshuriken, it should be in the image OP linked.

As long as Itachi has Yata mirror, I think he'll be fine.

Not to mention while Naruto is charging up his FRS, Itachis amaterasu is a much faster jutsu. He ignites the wind chakra with fire and burns Naruto to a crisp. If Naruto isn't careful, using such a powerful wind technique against an Uchiha wouldn't be that great of an idea. Not only does he need to form it, but he would still need to throw it. Amaterasu can be pulled out uch faster than that, almost instantaneously.

 

[LuckyMan]

As long as Itachi has Yata mirror, I think he'll be fine.

Not to mention while Naruto is charging up his FRS, Itachis amaterasu is a much faster jutsu. He ignites the wind chakra with fire and burns Naruto to a crisp. If Naruto isn't careful, using such a powerful wind technique against an Uchiha wouldn't be that great of an idea. Not only does he need to form it, but he would still need to throw it. Amaterasu can be pulled out uch faster than that, almost instantaneously.

He has clones to block LoS. Him sending a couple clones off to go prep SM is also doable so he will have backups should he run out. Sasuke already lit FRS on fire with Amaterasu and all it did was set it on fire but it still kept spinning and went to the target.

I've been saying for a while now that Yata Mirror should be weak to Senjutsu since TSB is. Their mechanics work the same but TSB is of a much higher level than it so I think Yata and Itachi gets obliterated.

 

[KidGamer65]

but he could prep it inside Shima's Dust cloud

And then when he throws it, it's lit on fire.

Well "eventually" Ma and Pa genjutsu Itachi's ass.

Before or after Naruto dies?

I'm gonna go with after. Lol.

 

[makosheva7]

Before or after Naruto dies?

I'm gonna go with after. Lol.

A KB spam (1000 + clones) is all Naruto needs to prep either frog song or COFRS. Itachi can't distinguish which clone is which as it's not EMS and Naruto has intel on Amaterasu as he has seen it before.

 

[-Akuma-]

A KB spam (1000 + clones) is all Naruto needs to prep either frog song or COFRS. Itachi can't distinguish which clone is which as it's not EMS and Naruto has intel on Amaterasu as he has seen it before.

Too bad ama roasts him before he summons the clones.

 

[makosheva7]

Too bad ama roasts him before he summons the clones.

AMA? And whatever it is that is a ludicrous claim. There is ONE handsign for KB. ONE.

 

[Izanamı.]

And then when he throws it, it's lit on fire.

do you think Itachi has enough stamina to create an Amaterasu with chakra amount equal to COFRS?

 

[-Akuma-]

AMA? And whatever it is that is a ludicrous claim. There is ONE handsign for KB. ONE.

And ama requires no hand signs, if it comes to whoever cast the justu first Naruto loses.

 

[makosheva7]

And ama requires no hand signs, if it comes to whoever cast the justu first Naruto loses.

Again what is AMA?

 

[-Akuma-]

Again what is AMA?

Amaterasu....

 

[makosheva7]

Amaterasu....

Ok my bad. There have been plenty of times Naruto himself has started battle out with a shadow clone (just as Kakashi does) to gauge the opponents abilities. Based on multiple examples of Naruto does this that's exactly how this fight starts off. Itachi tries to "AMA" Naruto but it's just his clone, now Itachi must conserve his chakra in his eye as its not EMS and Naruto can proceed to use the strategies I have listed.

 

[Kooljay]

This really shouldnt have this many post. Itachi wins via Tsukuyomi. The genjutsu happens in an instant and deals enough damage to put the target in a coma. Kurama wouldnt have enough time to notice Naruto is in a genjutsu and break him out because the genjutsu is nigh instantaneous.

 

[makosheva7]

This really shouldnt have this many post. Itachi wins via Tsukuyomi. The genjutsu happens in an instant and deals enough damage to put the target in a coma. Kurama wouldnt have enough time to notice Naruto is in a genjutsu and break him out because the genjutsu is nigh instantaneous.

What genjutsu doesn't happen in an instant? Ok I'll humor that Kurama wouldn't have enough time to break him out, considering the healing and durability factors of Sage Mode it wouldn't be feasible to put an experienced SM Naruto in a coma as he's constantly regenerating not just due to the Kyuubi chakra but to SM.

 

[Kooljay]

What genjutsu doesn't happen in an instant? Ok I'll humor that Kurama wouldn't have enough time to break him out, considering the healing and durability factors of Sage Mode it wouldn't be feasible to put an experienced SM Naruto in a coma as he's constantly regenerating not just due to the Kyuubi chakra but to SM.

Most dont happen in an instant. Most happen in real time. When Kakashi was put in a genjutsu he thought he was being tortured for 72 hours. Instead it was just a moment in real time as shown when everybody was surprised he was stressed in a moment. Then you even have Danzo's comparison of Sasukes genjutsu and Itachis. Sasuke can manipulate time. In a regular genjutsu, if your perceive 10 seconds to pass by then 10 seconds passed by.

Durability? Thats durability to physical attacks not mental. Again healing? Physical healing that was never shown to be on Tsunades level. His constant regeneration doesnt have the feats you're giving it. We even see him get beaten to pulp and that took time to heal and wasnt mental damage. His arm got blown off and never healed back on his own. Naruto's healing when not cloaked is horrible and even when cloaked has absolutely zero feats suggesting it can heal damage from Tsukuyomi. Both Kakashi and Naruto know about his healing. Both still think Tsukuyomi is dangerous to Naruto

 

[makosheva7]

Most dont happen in an instant. Most happen in real time. When Kakashi was put in a genjutsu he thought he was being tortured for 72 hours. Instead it was just a moment in real time as shown when everybody was surprised he was stressed in a moment. Then you even have Danzo's comparison of Sasukes genjutsu and Itachis. Sasuke can manipulate time. In a regular genjutsu, if your perceive 10 seconds to pass by then 10 seconds passed by.

Durability? Thats durability to physical attacks not mental. Again healing? Physical healing that was never shown to be on Tsunades level. His constant regeneration doesnt have the feats you're giving it. We even see him get beaten to pulp and that took time to heal and wasnt mental damage. His arm got blown off and never healed back on his own. Naruto's healing when not cloaked is horrible and even when cloaked has absolutely zero feats suggesting it can heal damage from Tsukuyomi. Both Kakashi and Naruto know about his healing. Both still think Tsukuyomi is dangerous to Naruto

I meant all genjutsu take effect right when they are cast wasn't talking about the victim's perceived duration in said genjutsu. You bring up some great points but I don't see Naruto being in a situation where he is looking directly at Itachi's eyes as to fall prey to Tsukuyomi. I mean he's seen the effects of Itachi's genjutsu prowess before so he'll definitely be the more wiser this time around.

 

[Kooljay]

I meant all genjutsu take effect right when they are cast wasn't talking about the victim's perceived duration in said genjutsu. You bring up some great points but I don't see Naruto being in a situation where he is looking directly at Itachi's eyes as to fall prey to Tsukuyomi. I mean he's seen the effects of Itachi's genjutsu prowess before so he'll definitely be the more wiser this time around.

Take effect as in putting them in an illusion as soon as the jutsu is done. They don't do damage in that same instant nor they manipulate the targets perception of time. War Arc Naruto has also seen the effects of using ninjutsu on a Nagato and he still did it. He would have died because of that mistake had Itachi not been there to save him. In the manga War Arc Naruto was gone against better judgement and ignore crucial information hes had on the target.

 

[makosheva7]

Take effect as in putting them in an illusion as soon as the jutsu is done. They don't do damage in that same instant nor they manipulate the targets perception of time. War Arc Naruto has also seen the effects of using ninjutsu on a Nagato and he still did it. He would have died because of that mistake had Itachi not been there to save him. In the manga War Arc Naruto was gone against better judgement and ignore crucial information hes had on the target.

I understand the duration Tsukuyomi thing I get it..

I'd say Naruto was cocky because of his new KCM form but whether or not Naruto would be intelligent enough to realize he shouldn't look an MS user in the eyes is up to interpretation. Let's say he was. Then he could win.

 

[Bogard]

Naruto would win this. SM allows Naruto to be one with the environment, noticing the opponents presence and movements even without eyesight. He is already too familiar with Itachi's genjutsu style to fall for it(their war arc encounter prove that), or at least not tsukuyomi, that's for sure and any other genjutsu is irrelevant infront of Naruto's chakra control.

SM sensing also helps to prevent amaterasu. In base and physically exhausted he could form chakra arms to protect himself. No reason to believe SM Naruto couldn't. With this he can either dodge with shunshin senpou rasengan, shield himself with a clone or kawarimi, throw rasenshuriken in advance the time Itachi prepares it(leaving him open). Smoke screen could also be used to block Itachi's vision. Frog kata could also theoritically push the flames away similarly to chakra arms since it allows the user to use the energy environment as an external part of his own body

In Taijutsu, Itachi would be bested by his SM Naruto's precognition alongside superior physical speed and frog katas(he bested Deva Path who has comparable physical stats with Itachi). His Chou Odama Rasenshuriken would also best his Susanoo. If needed, he can corner him from 4 sides to avoid the yata mirror

If needed, SM Naruto can still summon Pa/Ma for their genjutsu or frog song that would not allow Itachi to maintain Susanoo. Besides that he can also create diversions with clones and replicate all the above mentioned

War arc Naruto can also enter SM close to instantly, so he doesn't need to worry about running out of natural energy and if needed he has the necessarly tools to create diversions. With Pa/Ma, this "weakness" disappear completely anyway