Itachi vs Tobirama

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I'll side with Tobirama. While I don't see how he gets past Susano'o, I don't see how Susano'o lands a hit on him.

- Genjutsu easily maneuvered with his speed and use of shadow clones. Itachi won't risk wasting chakra in such a fight while holding up Susano'o

- Amaterasu? Someone who reacted the Obito in his Juubi form and surprised him with his speed? His sensory skills making it easy to detect the build up as well "I sensed" which enables him to even react faster since he'll be prepared. Matter of fact, this can also be used in his combat against Genujutsu.

Without Susano'o Itachi doesn't stand a chance of facing Tobirama. His reflexes and speed are on another level, Itachi cannot afford to come close or he gets tagged and even the likes of BSM Minato acknowledged this -- Itachi dies a bad death if he attempts such and add clones on the battlefield, his ability to teleport to them and even certain areas in the battlefield if tagged. With that being said, Tobirama easily outlasts Itachi with his Susano'o on and takes advantage once it's dropped. All I can think of right now.
lol all those impressive feats and still died to some 20 jounin fodder.
- i agree with the result but not the execution, itachi is more reserved, clever and relies more on feints than this repackaged version of sasuke v Ay quote of yours. why can't itachi simply create his small chakra required crow clones to take advantage of tobirama's blitz by using it's feints? then follow up with amaterasu while tobirama's sensory is clouded by the flock of crows as it did to kabuto. itachi is too slow for to be on the offensive but he has the right techniques to defend and even parry. imo especially since tobirama's techniques isn't really threatening aside from S/T
 
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I give the win to itachi.

Tobirama isn't fast as Minato and isn't proficient as Minato with FTG..

Amaterasu takes down the Edos and genjutsu followed up with a deal blow takes Tobirama out.
You're reaching a lot. Why are you randomly comparing him to Minato saying he will lose because he doesn't meet that standard? Lol Fact is, he has all of those things, whether mastered or not is hardly an issue. We have seen Tobirama's proficiency with such techniques. And if you are going to say something as simple as Amaterasu takes down the fodder edos, why even include them? If they are fodder Itachi can wipe them three on one anyway. Full intel, how would Tobirama so easily fall into a genjutsu? An Uchiha genjutsu no less? He wouldn't. Itachi would have to plan for that. Tobirama is smart asf. Itachi is genius but Tobirama does not fall far behind. Even though I barely give this to Itachi which I'm bias to Itachi but hey, what can I say? You're completely dismissing all of Tobirama's techniques and prowess to say "Uchiha bloodline GG" lol. Come on. You can do better.
 

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You're reaching a lot. Why are you randomly comparing him to Minato saying he will lose because he doesn't meet that standard? Lol Fact is, he has all of those things, whether mastered or not is hardly an issue. We have seen Tobirama's proficiency with such techniques. And if you are going to say something as simple as Amaterasu takes down the fodder edos, why even include them? If they are fodder Itachi can wipe them three on one anyway. Full intel, how would Tobirama so easily fall into a genjutsu? An Uchiha genjutsu no less? He wouldn't. Itachi would have to plan for that. Tobirama is smart asf. Itachi is genius but Tobirama does not fall far behind. Even though I barely give this to Itachi which I'm bias to Itachi but hey, what can I say? You're completely dismissing all of Tobirama's techniques and prowess to say "Uchiha bloodline GG" lol. Come on. You can do better.
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You're reaching a lot. Why are you randomly comparing him to Minato saying he will lose because he doesn't meet that standard? Lol Fact is, he has all of those things, whether mastered or not is hardly an issue. We have seen Tobirama's proficiency with such techniques. And if you are going to say something as simple as Amaterasu takes down the fodder edos, why even include them? If they are fodder Itachi can wipe them three on one anyway. Full intel, how would Tobirama so easily fall into a genjutsu? An Uchiha genjutsu no less? He wouldn't. Itachi would have to plan for that. Tobirama is smart asf. Itachi is genius but Tobirama does not fall far behind. Even though I barely give this to Itachi which I'm bias to Itachi but hey, what can I say? You're completely dismissing all of Tobirama's techniques and prowess to say "Uchiha bloodline GG" lol. Come on. You can do better.
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lol all those impressive feats and still died to some 20 jounin fodder.
- i agree with the result but not the execution, itachi is more reserved, clever and relies more on feints than this repackaged version of sasuke v Ay quote of yours. why can't itachi simply create his small chakra required crow clones to take advantage of tobirama's blitz by using it's feints? then follow up with amaterasu while tobirama's sensory is clouded by the flock of crows as it did to kabuto. itachi is too slow for to be on the offensive but he has the right techniques to defend and even parry. imo especially since tobirama's techniques isn't really threatening aside from S/T
And itachi died on his little fodder brother even thought he let him.....hashirama also died by some random ninja or you can say by someone who is below his level.....I swear itachi fanboys are the worst they really think that itachi can beat Kaguya.....lol....:elmo:
 

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Tobirama likely wins - he severely outclasses Itachi in the speed department by virtue of outpacing KCM Minato and his years of experience dealing with Uchiha should enable him to elude Itachi's Genjutsu as he did with Madara, impelling him to use the Rinnegan in the process. All of this while being hampered as an Edo Tensei. There's honestly not much Itachi can do here, he's severely outclassed in the fields of combat that are paramount for Itachi.
 

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Tobirama likely wins - he severely outclasses Itachi in the speed department by virtue of outpacing KCM Minato and his years of experience dealing with Uchiha should enable him to elude Itachi's Genjutsu as he did with Madara, impelling him to use the Rinnegan in the process. All of this while being hampered as an Edo Tensei. There's honestly not much Itachi can do here, he's severely outclassed in the fields of combat that are paramount for Itachi.
That's a great argument, however saying he's severely outclassed is way too much lol. Outclassed, maybe. Severely? Nah. Kid was a genius and a prodigy out of a hard generation to overcome and shine through. Not the same when dealing with Tobirama.
 

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That's a great argument, however saying he's severely outclassed is way too much lol. Outclassed, maybe. Severely? Nah. Kid was a genius and a prodigy out of a hard generation to overcome and shine through. Not the same when dealing with Tobirama.
I'd say severely, Tobirama's reflexes were enough to physically respond to Juubito's Shunshin as the weaker Edo Tensei in addition to Hiraishin which yields him a significant edge in speed. Itachi's reactions at best were on par with DSM Kabuto's which is admirable, but not when battling Tobirama, someone who was lauded as the fastest man alive even compared to Madara and Hashirama; two individuals who are faster and more reflexive than Itachi.
 

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I am Tobirama's fan , but i must admit that Itachi is maybe stronger than Tobirama.

Yes Tobirama has beaten Izuna Uchiha , but we don't know how powerful was Izuna , we don't know if he was stronger than Itachi.

What Tobirama can do against susanoo ? One of the greatest Tobirama's weakness is the susanoo because he has none jutsu against it. Gojo Kibaku Fuda can't destroy Susanoo.

The only way for Tobirama to win , is to beat fastly Itachi with Hiraishingiri , but it's obvious hard against a shinobi like Itachi.

So i don't know who win
 
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Tobirama reacted to Juubito - he literally peppered him w/explosive tags and placed a FTG seal on him with ONE arm. His sensory skills which allowed him to determine Karin's heritage means Amaterasu is never landing, Tsukuyomi is pointless as Tobirama knows how to avoid genjutsu, Totsuka is never landing, and eventually Tobirama warps an ET into his face and blows him up.
 
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Presumably Limbo and the fact that Tobirama fought aggressively rather than defensively like he did against Juubito.
Yeah that's what I don't get, couldn't that apply to itachi as well? he simply just need to mentally trigger his susanoo rib cage to prevent getting blitz, sensory is null because amat would still protect itachi either way since kabuto noted it's the perfect offensive and defense, meaning tobirama would still only be able to avoid and depending on the location, if he waits to long the less space he has to move due to wide spread of the flames. then finally, thanks to susanoo, itachi has the breathing room to set up clone feints. because like that @hiazaki guy said "Itachi cannot afford to come close or he gets tagged", that same logic would apply to tagging itachi's clone feints. Honestly I can only see him outlasting itachi not beating him. imo
 

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Yeah that's what I don't get, couldn't that apply to itachi as well? he simply just need to mentally trigger his susanoo rib cage to prevent getting blitz, sensory is null because amat would still protect itachi either way since kabuto noted it's the perfect offensive and defense, meaning tobirama would still only be able to avoid and depending on the location, if he waits to long the less space he has to move due to wide spread of the flames. then finally, thanks to susanoo, itachi has the breathing room to set up clone feints. because like that @hiazaki guy said "Itachi cannot afford to come close or he gets tagged", that same logic would apply to tagging itachi's clone feints. Honestly I can only see him outlasting itachi not beating him. imo
In that case, Tobirama would just stay out of range until he drops dead and his speed that was heralded as the fastest even among the likes of EMS Madara and SM Hashirama would enable him to escape Itachi's bunshin feints easily, especially if Tobirama uses his own Kage Bunshins as well.

At best, Itachi keeps Tobirama at bay through Susano'o until he loses via battle of attrition.
 
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