Itachi vs The Gokage

[Kages]

Itachi gets stomped so hard it's not even funny.

 

[Munboy]

Itachi loses. Jinton... now throw in all the other Gokage supporting Oonoki.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

is there such a thing as a healthy itachi in the manga (what prime) ?? ..... so putting this "what if" aside (no imagining what he could have done if he wasn't sick), itachi can't win this one (even in his so called "prime").

 

[KidGamer65]

Anyway Gokage win.

 

[KingHashirama]

THe GOKAGE. ^_^. Itachi is too hyped up.

 

[Itachi Solos]

The five 5 kage kneel before the solo king

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[ItachiStyle]

Itachi wins pretty easily. He's got too many ways to take them down which they have virtually no defence to (Ammy, Tsuki, Totsuka, Shi Sui's eye, Izanami, etc, while they have basically no way to hurt him behind the Susanoo and Etheral Shield. He's also faster than them (except A, and only after A powers up is he comparable to Itachi's predictive powers), which means they'll be in no position to escape his attacks. He's also smarter and a better tactician. Itachi wins.

 

[ItachiStyle]

NLF = No limit fallacy

An example of NLF is saying that Kotoamtsukami would work on the SO6P.


Again, it never stated how much. Your just interpreting the excerpt how you please with no manga proof.

Even if it "only" expands to cover that much, that's virtually Itachi's whole body (and the rest is covered by Susanoo). Add to that Itachi's reaction speed, predictive powers with the Sharingan, virtual prescience (he's basically psychic at anticipating people), and the fact Onoki is slower than him, and he will have no trouble blocking Jinton, which is basically the only thing that's going to penetrate his Susanoo in a hurry. A getting close sounds like a good way for A to die. Remember, he will also be swinging around a sword that one shots you, setting the place on fire with Ammy, and trying to tag you with a host of other attacks, some of which you can't really dodge (like Shi Sui's eye), others which mean you only need to look at him (Tsuki), and others which cut through either Onoki or Gaara's best defence unaided (Yasaka Beads).

And of course, since he's faster, the opening move of the fight will be him killing at least one Kage, and controlling another via Shi Sui's eye, which means A probably dies before he can do much of anything, while Onoki starts Jinton'ing his own team.

Even a Tsunade powered Jinton, let's say launched from 5 feet away, will be meaningless, since the Yata Mirror doesn't need to form a "dome" to protect Itachi, the area covered in the scan will be more than ample to protect him even if there is Jinton for a 300 m radius around him. Jinton isn't like poison gas or atomic bomb that spreads out to cover any area, it only covers the area it strikes. So the fact it wipes out the back patch of Itachi's Susanoo (where Itachi is not standing) is really irrelevant. Itachi's shield below would have an affect much like that scene in Aladdin, where the tower falls on him, but he dives into the place where the window is, and every other area is crushed, except for the space he was standing. That's how dust release works. It creates a shape, and atomises the area in that shape. It's like you're expecting the Jinton that gets blocked to then loop around on a search and destroy attacking Itachi behind his Shield... sorry, Jinton doesn't work that way. If it was an area affect like a tailed best bomb you might have an argument, but that's how how Jinton works.

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[lanakui8]

The gokage win pretty easily. Mei's hidden mist takes away ammy and tsukuyomi, and itachi is going to have a really hard time hitting them with totsuka when the mist is clouding his vision. Oonoki lightens gaara's sand and he can pull itachi out of susanoo, oonoki can obliterate susanoo with dust release, Mei can melt it with her mist, Tsunade can super charge oonoki's dust release and Ei can distract itachi.

make this edo itachi and take away 2 of the gokage and it's a fight.

 

[ItachiStyle]

By the time mist comes one or two Kage will already be dead (or another Koto'd). I mean, is this what we're reduced to? "The Kage will hide in the mist"... from a guy who is portrayed as vitually prescient, and knows what you'll do before you do it. He didn't have any vision against Kabuto (or other senses), and has no trouble blocking, and the explanation we're given is "I thought you'd do that, it was easy". This is a guy who hits blind spots (even though that makes no sense, because by definition he should not know they are there) effortlessly. Yeh, they'll hide from this dude in a misty fog. Pardon me as I snort.

By your own logic, Itachi's Susanoo is ridiculously fast, so he can just reform it around him if somehow pulled out of Susanoo (and that was a one time trick which Gaara could do because Madara left his feet exposed. Itachi isn't that dumb, or overconfident, quite the contrary he's super cautious for Uchiha... all he does is cover his feet. there's a reason Gaara couldn't pull that trick against Madara twice. Then remember that with the Shield in front of him, Gaara's sand would literally need to pull Itachi through the Yata Mirror (which is impenetrable). Yeh, that's not happening.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

(or another Koto'd).

Koto is not something Itachi can use.

By the time mist comes one or two Kage will already be dead

Not really, Gaara's sand blocks an initial Amaterasu attempt. No LoS, no Ammy.

Itachi can't take more than 2, maybe 3 at a time.

 

[ItachiStyle]

Koto is not something Itachi can use.

Peak Itachi can, which is who we assume the thread is about unless specified otherwise in the OP. He just pulls at his crow and has it look at them, and then one of them attacks his team mates before they even realise what's going on.

Not really, Gaara's sand blocks an initial Amaterasu attempt. No LoS, no Ammy.

Itachi can't take more than 2, maybe 3 at a time.

Itachi is faster than Gaara, who will not have time to defend. He also has a technique that goes right through sand- Yasaka Beads.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Peak Itachi can, which is who we assume the thread is about unless specified otherwise in the OP. He just pulls at his crow and has it look at them

No, he can't. The crow was inside Naruto. KA is not something Itachi can use, again. Unless he replaces one of his eyes he can't use it. The KA in his crow was rigged to activate against his Mangekyou.

Itachi is faster than Gaara

Gaara's shield is automatic.

He also has a technique that goes right through sand- Yasaka Beads.

Itachi can't hold Susanoo for long. His stamina is crap. Even it won't get through the kage's defences ( and by the time he has Susanoo up Mei will have used the mist ).

 

[lanakui8]

By the time mist comes one or two Kage will already be dead (or another Koto'd).

how does he kill one or two of them before the mist comes? The mist happens in just a couple panels. Itachi can't erect a lvl4 susanoo instantly, amaterasu can be blocked via sand, and he's going to already be on the defensive from the getgo. Also Itachi has never had access to Koto at any time in the manga, thus he does not get it in this thread, and it's not koto gg he still has to land the genjutsu on them.

I mean, is this what we're reduced to? "The Kage will hide in the mist"... from a guy who is portrayed as vitually prescient, and knows what you'll do before you do it. He didn't have any vision against Kabuto (or other senses), and has no trouble blocking, and the explanation we're given is "I thought you'd do that, it was easy". This is a guy who hits blind spots (even though that makes no sense, because by definition he should not know they are there) effortlessly. Yeh, they'll hide from this dude in a misty fog. Pardon me as I snort.

so basically just a resume post about itachi's past accomplishments. The mist has canonically obscured MADARA's vision who by portrayal is tiers beyond itachi. Itachi's famed battle prediction abilities has bit him in the butt as an edo tensei which is why he got skewered by the stalagmites. He has no way of seeing through the mist and thus it canonically counters his tsukuyomi or amaterasu use until you can state otherwise.

By your own logic, Itachi's Susanoo is ridiculously fast, so he can just reform it around him if somehow pulled out of Susanoo (and that was a one time trick which Gaara could do because Madara left his feet exposed.

itachi can form it fast, however in order to form one again, he has to wait for the previous to deform, and that's a timeframe in which he gets destroyed via a V2 punch, tsunade punch, jinton.

Itachi isn't that dumb, or overconfident, quite the contrary he's super cautious for Uchiha... all he does is cover his feet. there's a reason Gaara couldn't pull that trick against Madara twice. Then remember that with the Shield in front of him, Gaara's sand would literally need to pull Itachi through the Yata Mirror (which is impenetrable). Yeh, that's not happening.

The shield is not pressed up against itachi so there is a space to pull him out, gaara's sand can just hold susanoo and itachi in place as oonoki vaporizes both from behind, or tsunade and ei attack it from the sides.

Honestly, tsunade just has to power up oonoki for a super jinton cube and itach is done for.

 

[ItachiStyle]

The crow was inside Naruto at one point, but peak Itachi had it. Peak means you take someone at full strength, and full strength Itachi had the crow for years. He can use it, unless the OP specifies otherwise, just like we don't assume the Gold and Silver brothers lack the treasures (just because Darui took some off them). And yes, the crow works. He just looks at it and programs it. This is a guy who could just look at Sasuke's eye and program a booby trap into it, and who can create 72 hours worth of time in 1 instant.

Gaara's Shield is not automatic now the One Tail is gone. Plus, automatic doesn't mean instant... it's not faster than anything by virtue of being automatic, or else Gaara would never get tagged. Itachi is a ridiculous fast character, he'll be fine (and I doubt his sand is going to be able to stand up to a full Ammy Inferno poured at him like so:

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It can punch a hole through the impenetrable toad stomach that is immune to fire. It'll get through some sand.

Itachi's stamina is much less "crap" when not dying and on the verge of death (and even then he manages Susanoo for quite a long time). He'll be fine against these jokers.

 

[lanakui8]

The crow was inside Naruto at one point, but peak Itachi had it. Peak means you take someone at full strength, and full strength Itachi had the crow for years. He can use it, unless the OP specifies otherwise, just like we don't assume the Gold and Silver brothers lack the treasures (just because Darui took some off them). And yes, the crow works. He just looks at it and programs it. This is a guy who could just look at Sasuke's eye and program a booby trap into it, and who can create 72 hours worth of time in 1 instant.

peak Itachi had the crow, however Kotoamatsukami was never charged when peak Itachi has it, thus Itachi does not get Kotoamatsukami ever since while he had the crow, it was never ever capable of using Kotoamatsukami.

Gaara's Shield is not automatic now the One Tail is gone. Plus, automatic doesn't mean instant... it's not faster than anything by virtue of being automatic, or else Gaara would never get tagged.

reread the war arc and the real reason gaara has an automatic shield.

Itachi is a ridiculous fast character, he'll be fine (and I doubt his sand is going to be able to stand up to a full Ammy Inferno poured at him like so:
It can punch a hole through the impenetrable toad stomach that is immune to fire. It'll get through some sand.

while itachi is busy focusing on the sand, he gets ended by a dust release, V2 Ei punch, tsunade punch or acid spray. Or he'll just get grabbed via sand arms while he is spraying the shield with that.

And once he's done firing ammy, his body is going to be weak from the technique, he'll start huffing and puffing and depending on what technique he used beforehand, he might drop to his knees at which point any of the 4 kages who are not named gaara kill him.

Itachi's stamina is much less "crap" when not dying and on the verge of death (and even then he manages Susanoo for quite a long time). He'll be fine against these jokers.

He'll be fine for the first couple of seconds, then he'll be fighting just to stay since his vision is going to be obscured with hidden mist, his susanoo is going to be held down by chakra arms and susanoo will be taking hits from dust release from behind.

 

[UchihaInza]

Itachi wins

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

LOOOL at the Itachi fanboys that think he can actually win what counter has he got when the five kages combine all their jutsu like they done here

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