[VS] Itachi Vs Six Paths of Pein
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Joseph Gomes
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There are exception, frog sound, demonic flute, bringer of darkness are as strong as dojutsu genjutsu
No, they're not stronger than doujustu sharingan..
It's like saying oodama rasengan is stronger than rinnegan ninjustus.
Ocular genjustu is different, in fact read this..
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demonic flute is not that strong, it's rank a B rank.
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Even Itachi beat Asuma's wife A rank genjustu.
Joseph Gomes
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I was talking about the one Kabuto used at ryuchi cave...and the databook is really weird, i dont noramlly use it for reference
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Curse Mark
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Yolobito Swagchiha
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Powered by Senjutsu. We saw how Sasuke's Katon easily overwhelmed Itachi's following him gaining the passive Senjutsu boost of the curse mark, which is nothing compared to actual Sennin Modo.
OT: Pain mid diff.
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I disagree. I don't think every one of the jutsu he used is enhanced with senjutsu just because kabuto was in sage mode. if anything, kimi's bone forrest wasn't nearly as good.
Pain rapes. Animal Path can summon the other Path bodies to its side immediately, and from there things just go south for Itachi.
He has no answer for Preta Path, Shinra Tensei, Animal Path summon meatshields and Asura Path chakra cannons trolling all of his offensive ninjutsu, whereas Pain could send Itachi flying with a boss-toad sized Shinra Tensei in the event Susano'o comes out. Meanwhile, Pain can recover his bodies at any time with Naraka Path (which Itachi has no knowledge of), as well as avoid looking at his eyes to counter genjutsu.
Seriously, against anyone not named Naruto, Itachi had to force his opponent to look at his eyes through physical combat. If he tries that against any of the Paths he gets stabbed with a chakra rod from another Path, or tagged with paper bombs by Konan.
And this is without the possible option of Pain just simply outlasting Itachi.
He has no answer for Preta Path, Shinra Tensei, Animal Path summon meatshields and Asura Path chakra cannons trolling all of his offensive ninjutsu, whereas Pain could send Itachi flying with a boss-toad sized Shinra Tensei in the event Susano'o comes out. Meanwhile, Pain can recover his bodies at any time with Naraka Path (which Itachi has no knowledge of), as well as avoid looking at his eyes to counter genjutsu.
Seriously, against anyone not named Naruto, Itachi had to force his opponent to look at his eyes through physical combat. If he tries that against any of the Paths he gets stabbed with a chakra rod from another Path, or tagged with paper bombs by Konan.
And this is without the possible option of Pain just simply outlasting Itachi.
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Yolobito Swagchiha
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No; it was clearly explained by Fukasaku that Senjutsu is a
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Senjutsu is the basis of Sennin Modo. All Ninjutsu and Genjutsu use it in the place of normal chakra.
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Itachi would start off by Tsukiyomi'ing Konan, which takes her out of the fight.
Amaterasu end's the animal path before it can summon anything.
Since Itachi has won the battle with Konan and the animal path, he will be trying to get to the other Pains, and Nagato himself.
Nagato and the pains are in the largest, most obvious building in Amegakure, so itachi will be able to find it very easily. I'm pretty sure the building that they are in is it, but not completely.
Anyway, while the Pain's are hunting itachi down, he can burn the building with Amaterasu, which will kill nagato. Even if he absorbs the fire, he's still in a collapsing building.
Amaterasu end's the animal path before it can summon anything.
Since Itachi has won the battle with Konan and the animal path, he will be trying to get to the other Pains, and Nagato himself.
Nagato and the pains are in the largest, most obvious building in Amegakure, so itachi will be able to find it very easily. I'm pretty sure the building that they are in is it, but not completely.
Anyway, while the Pain's are hunting itachi down, he can burn the building with Amaterasu, which will kill nagato. Even if he absorbs the fire, he's still in a collapsing building.
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Still waiting for a counter to Tsukuyomi ^^
Itachi has already countered his strongest tech, CT.
All of the pains have linked vision, you guys do realize Tsukuyomi would 1 shot pain?
Itachi has already countered his strongest tech, CT.
All of the pains have linked vision, you guys do realize Tsukuyomi would 1 shot pain?
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Interesting read but there's one flaw:
-We've only seen one person look at Tsukuyomi at a time. So there's nothing saying Tsukuyomi can/can't work on multiple individuals at a time. More evidence suggests it works on multiple people at a time because Oonoki told the entire alliance not to look in Madara's eyes.
-Infinite Tsukuyomi affects everyone at once so it strengthens the argument that Tsukuyomi works on multiple people at a time.
To be fair, the dynamics of Tsukuyomi were never properly explained. So is there chakra going in a straight line from his eye that can only enter through another person's eye?
If you have evidence from the databook that states how Tsukuyomi works/if it works on only one person then i'll agree.
We have to go by the information the manga/databooks give us. The only thing ever said about Tsukuyomi was Kakashi saying "if you meet his [Itachi's] gaze you're finished". Also that the only way to resist it is to be an Uchiha with MS.
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ITachi can take down some peins but he'll inevitably lose.
- with full knowledge, itachi should be able to formulate a strategy to kill 5 or even all the peins high diff.
- with no knowledge, and starting with all 6 paths at once, itachi most likely dies after killing 1 or maybe 2 max.
- with the exact same scenario as jiraiya, itachi might 'win'. By that I mean, he'd possibly be able to kill animal path before he summons any other peins. So the fight technically stops there. Other than that, he kills the 3, then they get revived and he dies to all 6 eventually.
Because of itachi's stamina limitations, it's possible that he kills 1 less than what i said in all those cases above, seeing as he'd have to be somewhat conservative the entire time. IMO, his most likely strategy would just be to run away. Something not too hard to do seeing as he's faster than pein and he can use crows(vision blockers) and shadow clones as a diversion.
EDIT: in your scenario with a sick itachi, he might actually lose against animal path from the very start.
- with full knowledge, itachi should be able to formulate a strategy to kill 5 or even all the peins high diff.
- with no knowledge, and starting with all 6 paths at once, itachi most likely dies after killing 1 or maybe 2 max.
- with the exact same scenario as jiraiya, itachi might 'win'. By that I mean, he'd possibly be able to kill animal path before he summons any other peins. So the fight technically stops there. Other than that, he kills the 3, then they get revived and he dies to all 6 eventually.
Because of itachi's stamina limitations, it's possible that he kills 1 less than what i said in all those cases above, seeing as he'd have to be somewhat conservative the entire time. IMO, his most likely strategy would just be to run away. Something not too hard to do seeing as he's faster than pein and he can use crows(vision blockers) and shadow clones as a diversion.
EDIT: in your scenario with a sick itachi, he might actually lose against animal path from the very start.
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No couter to Kimi's jutsu not appearing stronger? What about Jirobo's too? Didn't seem any stronger.
Yolobito Swagchiha
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Just because it didn't seem larger or more outstanding in appearance doesn't mean it isn't actually stronger. Raikiri doesn't seem all that different from Chidori though by feats it has been portrayed as stronger.