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[VS] Itachi Vs Six Paths of Pein

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The time has come for Itachi to betray the Akatsuki and kill it's 'leader'. Itachi confronts Pein in the same scenario as Jiraiya did [
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Stipulation: This is essentially Jiraiya Vs Pein, under the same exact conditions. [Location, starting distance, etc.] but they share manga knowledge on eachother. Itachi is as is in the manga during this time frame; meaning he is sick. However, he is determined to die in Sasukes hands. Will he make it out alive?

*Due Note: Deva Path will most likely not use his land devastating techniques due to the location being set in his village.

 
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Rinnesense said:
Itachi's lack of stamina would work against him, among other things. Pein comfortably takes this.
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Itachi's lack of stamina? His stamina is perfectly fine, even when sick.

  • Before his battle with Sasuke Itachi sent out two Karasu Bunshins [Crow Clones] to meet both Sasuke and Naruto [
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  • Itachi, not taking Sasuke serious yet, used genjutsu three times in a row as the fight commensed [
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  • Itachi then used another Karasu Bunshin [
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  • Used one his chakra taxing MS techniques, Tsukiyomi [
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  • Used the Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu [Fire Release: Grand Fireball technique] not once, but twice in a row [
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  • Itachi then proceeded to use his second MS technique, Amaterasu [
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  • Shortly after straining himself by using Amaterasu twice in a row, Itachi is forced to throw up his third and final MS technique, susano'o, in order to protect himself from the destructive power of Sasukes' kirin [
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  • Itachi decided to throw up the final version of his susano'o armed with the two legendary weapons [
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  • And to top it all off, while Itachi had already overly exhausted himself, he still managed to use a transcription seal [fuinjutsu] and sealed away one last Amaterasu within Sasuke [
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How does Pein comfortably take this?
 
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Itachi takes this but I can't really state a difficulty level.

-Manga fact that Pain's weakness is genjutsu

-Manga fact that all Pain's have linked vision.

One pain looking at Tsukuyomi = they all look at it.

Amaterasu = All pains are 1 shotted except for God and Ghost realm.
 
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List of both pain and itachi's flaws:

Itachi:

Never utilize full arsenal in battle (Hebi Sasuke looked like he had more Justus than Itachi).

Rarely uses ninjustu

Heavily relies on genjustu

Large and powerful chakra pool, but such low stamina (physical energy) he can barely use all of his chakra.

Since low stamina, itachi can't utilize taijustu as long as an average shinobi.
(Sasuke getting him with the windmill shuriken is a perfect example)

Since can't use much taijustu, he uses bakujustu instead.

Can't use Susanoo for long because of low stamina, so he uses it sparingly.


Pain:

Novice to any form of genjustu (weakness)

Novice to advance taijustu (vulnerable to)

Senile/ bad reflexes Kakashi was easily able to beat him in terms of reflexes, but not itachi.
(This includes prime Nagato too)

Lacks mobility so he can't use taijustu or evade.

Six paths of pein: because he spreads his power towards the bodies, his outer path (Nagato himself) is left vulnerable(only chakra stakes) to be killed anytime ending the whole six path bodies and Nagato himself.

Relies to heavily on the six path Justus

If you kill deva path and hell path, the rest is an easy win.


If itachi is sick and still has low stamina, then itachi can win the battle right off the bat.

However, if pain decides to play guerrilla warfare and drag the battle longer than itachi can go for, he can win the battle.
 
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VariaBossX said:
List of both pain and itachi's flaws:

Itachi:

Never utilize full arsenal in battle (Hebi Sasuke looked like he had more Justus than Itachi).

Rarely uses ninjustu

Heavily relies on genjustu

Large and powerful chakra pool, but such low stamina (physical energy) he can barely use all of his chakra.

Since low stamina, itachi can't utilize taijustu as long as an average shinobi.
(Sasuke getting him with the windmill shuriken is a perfect example)

Since can't use much taijustu, he uses bakujustu instead.

Can't use Susanoo for long because of low stamina, so he uses it sparingly.


Pain:

Novice to any form of genjustu (weakness)

Novice to advance taijustu (vulnerable to)

Senile/ bad reflexes Kakashi was easily able to beat him in terms of reflexes, but not itachi.
(This includes prime Nagato too)

Lacks mobility so he can't use taijustu or evade.

Six paths of pein: because he spreads his power towards the bodies, his outer path (Nagato himself) is left vulnerable(only chakra stakes) to be killed anytime ending the whole six path bodies and Nagato himself.

Relies to heavily on the six path Justus

If you kill deva path and hell path, the rest is an easy win.


If itachi is sick and still has low stamina, then itachi can win the battle right off the bat.

However, if pain decides to play guerrilla warfare and drag the battle longer than itachi can go for, he can win the battle.
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Should point out a few things:

Itachi was screwing with Sasuke the whole fight, his goal was to die by his hands and remove Orochimaru from Sasuke's body. He got hit by the shuriken intentionally (or maybe it was the illness), Zetsu even notes that it made 0 sense for him to get hit by it. Itachi was shown on par with KCM Naruto in Taijutsu, that's insane.
 
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Shared vision nullifies Genjutsu
Pain is soulless, Totsuka won't work
Amaterasu is absorbed by Preta Path or made irrelevant by Naraka Path

Deva + Human Paths end Itachi. I really don't see Itachi winning, though he does put up a fight.
 
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Inert Brian said:
Should point out a few things:

Itachi was screwing with Sasuke the whole fight, his goal was to die by his hands and remove Orochimaru from Sasuke's body. He got hit by the shuriken intentionally (or maybe it was the illness), Zetsu even notes that it made 0 sense for him to get hit by it. Itachi was shown on par with KCM Naruto in Taijutsu, that's insane.
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His illness is what is effecting his stamina.

Itachi's taijustu is superior and his precognition makes his taijustu and reflexes all the better.
That's why he was able to keep up with bee and kcm naruto at the same time, but his taijustu is limited.

Taijustu is strictly stamina no chakra, Ebisu pointed this out to naruto after the first part of the exam.

If itachi has low stamina, he can't keep up taijustu for so long.
 
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HiddenSound said:
Shared vision nullifies Genjutsu
Pain is soulless, Totsuka won't work
Amaterasu is absorbed by Preta Path or made irrelevant by Naraka Path

Deva + Human Paths end Itachi. I really don't see Itachi winning, though he does put up a fight.
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@ bolded

I want to see where this is stated because visual genjustu abuses someone's vision, especially when all nagato shares with his path bodies are his vision.

(Hence why DSM Kabuto close his eye sights against itachi).
 
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VariaBossX said:
@ bolded

I want to see where this is stated because visual genjustu abuses someone's vision, especially when all nagato shares with his path bodies are his vision.

(Hence why DSM Kabuto close his eye sights against itachi).
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I thought all types of Genjutsu didn't work on the Paths except for Tsukyomi...
 
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