Itachi vs shiui

[Victorelder2k13]

Who would win

Both have info on each other
On the Plainfields ops I mean itachi vs shisui

 

[Kettei]

Itachi

 

[Arcaneos510X]

shisui FTW greatest uchiha ever

 

[ReapTermin]

Shisui wins.

 

[GreenV]

Itachi

But Shisui's genjutsu is better

 

[Joki]

Itachi already admitted inferiority, Kotoamatsukami for suicide.

 

[Owarij]

Itachi already admitted inferiority, Kotoamatsukami for suicide.

Itachi never admitted inferiority.. don;t kid yourself..
The very fact that itachi knows all about shishui's moves, and kotoamatsuki , should tell a simpleton that he won't just stand there..

Common sense would indicate to make a crow clone or 3,
so shishui has a 75% chance of hitting the real one..

Since clones can't be distinguished by shairingan...

I believe itachi was considered the strongest in the uchiha when he was only 13.. he's 21 now

 

[LolaxXx]

tie, or shisui due to itachi's illness.

 

[Joki]

Itachi never admitted inferiority.. don;t kid yourself..
The very fact that itachi knows all about shishui's moves, and kotoamatsuki , should tell a simpleton that he won't just stand there..

Common sense would indicate to make a crow clone or 3,
so shishui has a 75% chance of hitting the real one..

Since clones can't be distinguished by shairingan...

I believe itachi was considered the strongest in the uchiha when he was only 13.. he's 21 now

Lol, so because you know what Kotoamatsukami does you can stop it?

Nope, Itachi commits suicide GG.

 

[Owarij]

Lol, so because you know what Kotoamatsukami does you can stop it?

Nope, Itachi commits suicide GG.

??
god you're retarded..
that's exactly what i'm saying..

When kakashi learnt what itachi's tsukyomi does what did he do in their fight?
make a clone, made itachi use genjutsu on that clone..

it's common sense for anyone with a good i.q
you're just retarded..
it's not evena jutsu that can be spammed

 

[Joki]

??
god you're retarded..
that's exactly what i'm saying..

When kakashi learnt what itachi's tsukyomi does what did he do in their fight?
make a clone, made itachi use genjutsu on that clone..

it's common sense for anyone with a good i.q
you're just retarded..
it's not evena jutsu that can be spammed

It doesn't work like that, so any technique you have knowledge of you can stop? No. Some techniques it will work, it depends entirely on the technique. If the opponent has a jutsu that sends a ball at you at 1 mile per year but if it touches you you instantly die, you can use your knowledge of it to avoid it, if it moves at 1 mile per nanosecond and is 500 km wide, just because you know they have the technique by absolute no means you can do shit against it.

I'd also appreciate not resorting to childish attacks in what I assumed to be intelligent debate in any threads we're debating in, please.

Kotoamatsukami forces Itachi to commit suicide, GG.

 

[Owarij]

Is kotoamatsuki a jutsu that sends a ball at you like that?

NO

is kotoamatsuki a jutsu like tsukyomi?
Yes

Did kakashi counter itachi's genjutsu by the exact same thing i said?
Yes

Gtfo plz, any retard will know what to do against tsukyomi and Ka once they know what it does and that he has it

Don't want childish attacks? Intelligent debate?
You are not intelligent, so of course we can't have an intelligent debate

Ofc knowing of the jutsu won't allow you to dodge it every time, that's obvious..
I'm speaking about tuskyomi and kotoamatsuki..
Knowing of them will allow you to dodge them easily

YOU'VE SEEN kaakshi do this, and you still deny it
Once again, i'm done debating with trash like you, who can't formulate a good point for shit go back to whence you came

 

[Joki]

Is kotoamatsuki a jutsu that sends a ball at you like that?

NO

is kotoamatsuki a jutsu like tsukyomi?
Yes

Er..no it's not, mind telling me how Danzo activated it multiple times without eye contact?

Did kakashi counter itachi's genjutsu by the exact same thing i said?
Yes

Gtfo plz, any retard will know what to do against tsukyomi and Ka once they know what it does and that he has it

Ohhh, so now people can counter Tsukuyomi, but when it's against Itachi in a thread it's virtually impossible since you want him to win

Don't want childish attacks? Intelligent debate?
You are not intelligent, so of course we can't have an intelligent debate

Alright, gotta give you props on that one, that was a good
burn son.

Ofc knowing of the jutsu won't allow you to dodge it every time, that's obvious..
I'm speaking about tuskyomi and kotoamatsuki..
Knowing of them will allow you to dodge them easily

YOU'VE SEEN kaakshi do this, and you still deny it
Once again, i'm done debating with trash like you, who can't formulate a good point for shit go back to whence you came

No, I actually don't deny it. Kotoamatsukami for one doesn't require eye contact as far as we know. I've been debating in every other thread involving Itachi in which he loses that Tsukuyomi can be avoided if you know what to do against it, now you change your opinion on a whim to fit the situation? I'm on your side here regarding the Tsukuyomi bit, I know it can be countered.

 

[Owarij]

Er..no it's not, mind telling me how Danzo activated it multiple times without eye contact?

Ohhh, so now people can counter Tsukuyomi, but when it's against Itachi in a thread it's virtually impossible since you want him to win


Alright, gotta give you props on that one, that was a good
burn son.


No, I actually don't deny it. Kotoamatsukami for one doesn't require eye contact as far as we know. I've been debating in every other thread involving Itachi in which he loses that Tsukuyomi can be avoided if you know what to do against it, now you change your opinion on a whim to fit the situation? I'm on your side here regarding the Tsukuyomi bit, I know it can be countered.

ORLY?

name the character , and LINK THE THREAD in which i said tsukyomi can't be avoided


Do note this has to be a character than KNOWS itachi has tsukyomi..

and

No, I actually don't deny it.

Yet you spam post Kotoamatsuki in itachi's face GG?

you're either an idiot or a troll , either way , i'll stop replying to you permanently soon


Kotoamatsuki doesn't require eye contact but it still targets one person just like tsukyomi , And as i said , itachi knowing this WILL make clones

 

[Joki]

ORLY?

name the character , and LINK THE THREAD in which i said tsukyomi can't be avoided


Do note this has to be a character than KNOWS itachi has tsukyomi..

and
Yet you spam post Kotoamatsuki in itachi's face GG?

you're either an idiot or a troll , either way , i'll stop replying to you permanently soon


Kotoamatsuki doesn't require eye contact but it still targets one person just like tsukyomi , And as i said , itachi knowing this WILL make clones

Oh? What do you think is faster? Activating an MS jutsu or performing hand seals and waiting for the jutsu to appear? You're starting to contradict yourself..

Also the Hashirama vs Itachi and Sasuke thread, you are claiming that despite Hashirama's war with Uchiha clan members and his 1 on 1 fight with EMS Madara he will fall to Tsukuyomi because there's no proof he won't keep eye contact.

 

[Owarij]

Oh? What do you think is faster? Activating an MS jutsu or performing hand seals and waiting for the jutsu to appear? You're starting to contradict yourself..

Also the Hashirama vs Itachi and Sasuke thread, you are claiming that despite Hashirama's war with Uchiha clan members and his 1 on 1 fight with EMS Madara he will fall to Tsukuyomi because there's no proof he won't keep eye contact.

I'm only doing that because in another thread you wanted facts only , so there you go right back at you

Also, Handseals for any normal people will take a few seconds

If you didn't realize, itachi's handseal speed was said to be superhuman (by kurenai) , and kakashi stated he couldn't keep up with them even with sharingan

So can itachi create a shadow clone before ka is used?yes ofc

He created a clone in the short time of a shruiken travelling to him against sasuke.. so fast sasuke didn't see any handseals....

also don't forget Ka is short ranged, so making distance is also a counter

 

[Joki]

I'm only doing that because in another thread you wanted facts only , so there you go right back at you

Also, Handseals for any normal people will take a few seconds

If you didn't realize, itachi's handseal speed was said to be superhuman (by kurenai) , and kakashi stated he couldn't keep up with them even with sharingan

So can itachi create a shadow clone before ka is used?yes ofc

He created a clone in the short time of a shruiken travelling to him against sasuke.. so fast sasuke didn't see any handseals....

also don't forget Ka is short ranged, so making distance is also a counter

All he has to do is open his eye, Itachi's not creating a KB before he activates 1 MS jutsu, I'm simply going by your logic. You think that Kakashi keeping up with Itachi's hand seal speed with basic 3 tomoe sharingan 3 years previous is equal to "one of the greatest uchiha clan members" MS keeping up? Itachi isn't doing shit, Shisui could easily disperse the clones anyway, Itachi's stamina is a 2.5 for a reason. Alternatively, if Itachi isn't an idiot as to create more than 2 clones, he uses 2 Kotoamatsukami, it doesn't matter which one is Itachi he's gonna commit suicide.

And again.."Shunshin no Shisui"? What distance Itachi makes will be closed in very short time while Shisui's superior MS forces him to commit suicide

 

[Bogard]

Shisui will win thanks to KA

 

[shogun973]

Joki, you are getting body bagged right now lol

 

[Owarij]

All he has to do is open his eye, Itachi's not creating a KB before he activates 1 MS jutsu, I'm simply going by your logic. You think that Kakashi keeping up with Itachi's hand seal speed with basic 3 tomoe sharingan 3 years previous is equal to "one of the greatest uchiha clan members" MS keeping up? Itachi isn't doing shit, Shisui could easily disperse the clones anyway, Itachi's stamina is a 2.5 for a reason. Alternatively, if Itachi isn't an idiot as to create more than 2 clones, he uses 2 Kotoamatsukami, it doesn't matter which one is Itachi he's gonna commit suicide.

And again.."Shunshin no Shisui"? What distance Itachi makes will be closed in very short time while Shisui's superior MS forces him to commit suicide

open his eye?
No , First he has to activate kotoamatsuki, then i believe close/open his eyes
KB? and yes he is.. If itachi could do handseals and create a clone in the midst of a shruiken throwout, without sasuke even seeing 1 handseal, then ofc he can

Shisui could easily disperse the clones anyway

REALLY? EASILY? HOW? please go ahead
list how shishui is going to beat down itachi's clones

which all have the capability of exploding if he gets into a taijutsu fight
do note that

Itachi isn't an idiot as to create more than 2 clones,

And why would he be an idiot to make more than 2 clones?
Crow clones take much less chakra than normal shadow clones, since it uses crows as a medium..
try again?

And again.."Shunshin no Shisui"? What distance Itachi makes will be closed in very short time while Shisui's superior MS forces him to commit suicid

Great, do you know why he was called that? Do you know if it was for his speed? or that he did it in a flashy way? do you know if he had his own specific method of shunshin'ing?

You know nothing about it, not to mention is he casting ka here or using shunshin? you do realise that in this time itachi could be making clones?