Itachi VS Sasuke

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

Alright!!! Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Trolls and Itachi Wankers. . . It’s time for another very exciting thread from Daisy!

Now before I get started, I have to state this. . . This thread IS about Itachi. . . Wankers, Keep the wanking to a MINIMUM, please. . . Daisy doesn’t want to hear any of your “Solo King” :devil: COWABUNGA F**K!!! :devil:

Now let’s see what we’ve got here, shall we?


Now this thread is something that has been debated on the base for quite a while and has raised a LOT of controversy over time. It has erupted into MASSIVE flame wars, given birth to new trolls and wankers, AND has littered the base with bias and content. . . Well now Daisy wishes to throw her crown into the ring! That’s right! “Lord of Amaterasu” Sasuke Uchiha V.S. “Solo King” Itachi Uchiha!

Now first off, this is NOT a discussion on their previous battle in the Uchiha Hideout, but it MUST be addressed as of now in order to move on without any confusion.

Now Sasuke persued Itachi in persuit of vengeance for erraticating the Uchiha Clan. Upon meeting him in the Uchiha Hideout, a MASSIVE fight of power and will breaks out! in that fight between Sasuke and Itachi, Sasuke put up a great fight against his older brother and even with the overwhealming power of the Mangekyou Sharingan bearing down on him, he just barely won the battle by the skin of his teeth. However, later on when Sasuke was healed by Obito, we learned that Itachi allowed Sasuke to take the victory and we learn a bit of why Itachi allowed Sasuke to win the battle and why he defected from the Hidden Leaf Villiage. This spurs Sasuke to unlock his OWN Mangekyou Sharingan and later on transplant Itachi’s eyes and awaken his ETERNAL Mangekyou Sharingan.

Now that we know a bit about WHY the fight took place, let’s analyze the fight! Now in the beginning, there wass a MASSIVE shuriken battle. Both sides held up greatly. However, Sasuke won the shuriken bout due to his clever use of the Chidori. Next, Itachi pins Sasuke down and uses Tsukuyomi against him. In an intense struggle of willpower, Sasuke manages to defeat Itachi’s Tsukuyomi. After a few exchanges of fireballs, Chidoris and clever shuriken play, there begins a power struggle between the two bothe using Fire Style: Fireball Jutsu. Sasuke takes the power struggle and pushes Itachi back a VERY far margin, until Itachi releases Amaterasu. Using Amaterasu, Itachi completely overpowers Sasuke, torches the ENITRE hideout roof and surrounding forest, and forces Sasuke to retreat to a basement floor of the hideout. Upon his rearrival, Sasuke reveals Kirin, and rains down raw lightning onto Itachi, seemingly killing him in an instant! However, Itachi survives using Susano’o, which he then uses to seal Orochimaru and ABSOLUTELY overpower Sasuke on an unimaginable level. In the end, Itachi succumbs to his illness and his stamina depleats, killing him and giving Sasuke the victory.

Now let’s fast forward to the future. Sasuke now has the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and has mastered all 3 of the Mangekyou techniques that Itachi had and to a greater degree in terms of Amaterasu, even going as far as creating s new Kekkei Genkai elemental base; Inferno Style (Enton). Now, his Tsukuyomi is incredibly inferior to Itachi’s, but it IS Tsukuyomi and Tsukuyomi by itself is not to be f**ked with. And as for Susano’o. . . That’s most likely the grand equalizer in the battle, as Sasuke will most likely go strait to using it from the get go! But before I start breaking down the battle as I would see it going, I’ll FORMALLY introduce our combatants!




Sasuke Uchiha [Know the power of the Uchiha!]

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A rogue ninja formerly from the Villiage Hidden in the Leaves. Seeing his brother, Itachi destroy his entire clan, he set out for revenge. Upon killing his brother and learning the truth, he now sets his sights on destroying the Leaf. He plunges his heart completely into the darkness and goes on a crime spree, crashing the 5 Kage Summit, temporarily alighning himself with Obito and the Akatsuki, and killing the Hidden Leaf’s Manipulator of the Shadows, Danzo Shimura. Upon realizing the power of his Mangekyou, he transplants his dead brothers eyes and undergoes a deep sleep as his eyes take on another ghastly form. As the 4th Great Ninja War rages on with Madara and Obito ravaging the Ninja Alliance, Sasuke Uchiha awakens and unleashes his newfound powers. As he does this, he meets up with his now Reanimated brother and fights alongside him against the malevolent Dragon Sage, Kabuto Yakushi. Upon Kabuto’s defeat, Sasuke gets closure from Itachi and takes a trip to the Leaf Villliage with Orochimaru to meet the Ones who know the TRUTH, who turns out to be none other than a Reanimated Hashirama Senju! Upon confronting Hashirama and Orochimaru, he has changed his resolve and now swears to protect the Leaf and his brother's had work at all costs. And with his new Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, will he be the dominating force in Daisy’s Battle Arena?

• Fire Style: Fire Ball Jutsu
  
  
• Fire Style: Dragon Flame Jutsu
  
  
• Fire Style: PhoeniX Flower Jutsu
  
  
• Chidori
  
  
• Chidori Stream
  
  
• Chidori Senbon
  
  
• Chidori Blade
  
  
• Chidori Sharp Spear
  
  
• Kirin
  Chidori's strongest form. It alows sasuke to tame and manipulate raw lightning. This jutsu has a range of abot the size of the Hokage Mansion and strikes with enough force to destroy even a fully manifested Final Susano'o. This jutsu also strikes at the speed of lightning itself.
  
  However, the drawback is that this jutsu has a ludicrous ammount of prepwork and leaves Sasuke vulnerable to enemy attacks. It must be used mindfully.
  
  
• Sharingan
  The cornerstone in sasuke's massive arsenal. It holds the power of all of his most powerful moves.
  
  
  • 3 Tomoe Sharingan
    Allows for movement tracking and semi-powerful ocular genjutsu
    
  • Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan
    With this, It allows movement tracking and allows for 3 very powerful jutsu
    
    • Tsukuyomi
      The ultimate occular genjutsu available only to those who have the Mangekyou Sharingan. If direct eye contact is made, the opponent will be sent to the Nightmare Realm, where they will be continuously tortured until the genjutsu is released. Only a perfect Jinchuuriki or a Sharingan user can break this genjutsu.
      
    • Amaterasu
      This ability ignites anything in Sasuke's gaze in the black flames of Hell. They burn fire itself. The flames of Amaterasu burn anything and everything for seven days and seven nights or until the object is burned away into nothingness. The flames also burn very slowly, which produces agonizing torture upon combustion.
      
      Sasuke has very high skills with this Jutsu. So much that he has created an entirely new elemental base.
      
      • Inferno Style
        Inferno Style is the manipulation of Amaterasu in order to give the flames shape and form. So far, he is able to form shields, blades for Susano’o (can be used for both Complete, Incomplete, and Final Susano’o), and projectile weapons.
        
        • Inferno Style: Flame Control
          
          
        • Inferno Style: Flame Shield
          
          
        • Inferno Style: Flame Control Sword
          
          
        • Inferno Style: Yasaka Beads
          
    • Susano'o
      
      
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      Sasuke’s Susano’o allows for extreme defences and offensive capabilitiers. His complete Susano’o can shoote arrows at insane speeds at his opponents. It can also utilize the arrows as melee weapons. His Final Susano’o can to the same, however it is augmented by Inferno Style Ninjutsu.
      

Itachi Uchiha [As you are. . . You can’t defeat me. . .]

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The Genius of the Villiage Hidden in the Leaves! Itachi Uchha was once a proud shinobi of the Leafe Villiage until one day, he was assigned a mission to extinguish his entire clan by the order of Danzo Shimura (that bastard. . .) in order to prevent an uprising of the Uchiha. As a consequence to this action, Itachi was forced to flee the villiage and join the criminal organization, Akatsuki. Watching over the villiage and his younger brother from the shadows, he leads Sasuke to his hideaway, where he sacrefices himself in order to grant peace to Sasuke. Upon revival, he makes his name as a war hero by stopping the ghastly Dragon Sage, Kabuto Yakushi and releasing the Reanimation Jutsu. Upon his final moments, he was given theopportunity to finally have true closure with young Sasuke, as his glorious soul drifted off into the light of Tengoku. . . Now back to fight in Daisy's V.S. Arena, Will his godly power and skillful mindset be enough to triumph over his overwhealming opponent?

• Ludicrous Genjutsu
  Itachi's Genjutsu capabilities are famous throughout the ninja world. With just the pointing of an index finger or the quick weaving of a single handsign, a Genjutsu can be cast upon his opponent without them ever being aware of it. Itachi's speciality is utilizing this form of weak yet sly Genjutsu to trap unaware opponents in his illusionary antics before the battle even begins, giving him an assured first point advantage if a fight happens to break out, AND giving him the edge to try and slide his weaker Genjutsu into a much more potent Genjutsu.
  
  
• Multi Shuriken Jutsu.
  
  
• Shadoww Clone Jutsu
  
  
• Shadow Clone Explosion Jutsu
  This jutsu is one where Itachi uses the Shadow clone Jutsu, riggs it with chakra explosives, instantaniously swaps places wuth it using substitution Jutsu, and detonates the clone whenever the opponent gets near it or gains the upper hand when combating it.
  
• Crow Clone Jutsu
  Another speciality of Itachi's. Itachi often uses several clones that dissipate into several black crows upon heavy or mortal impact. This haze of crows often allows itachi the chance to cast a weak Genjutsu upon the slightly confused opponent.
  
  
• Fire Style: Fireball Jutsu
  
  
• Fire Style: Phoenix Flower Jutsu
  
  
• Fire Style: Phoenix Flower Crimson Shuriken Jutsu
  This form of the Phoenix Flower Jutsu is performed by using the normal Phoenix Flower and using it in cojunction with the Multi Shuriken Jutsu, which gives it more aerodayamic tragectory, superior targeting capabilities, augmented flight and fall speed, and MUCH more penetrating and cutting power with the stil standing 2nd degree burning.
  
• Fire Style: Dragon Flame Jutsu
  
  
• Water Stle: Water Fang bomb Jutsu
  
  
• Sharingan
  The cornerstone of Itachi's bag o' tricks! It holds Itachi's TRUE potential!
  
  • 3 Tomoe Sharingan
    Allows for movement tracking and weak Genjutsu.
    
    
  • Izanami
    This is one of the Ultimate Genjutsu of the Uchiha Clan. This jutsu activates an illusion that traps the opponent in a mental loop for eternity, or until they realize their "true self" However, The eye used to cast the Izanami will lose it's light. . . PERMINANTLY!!!
    
    Since Daisy doesnt really have the time nor the patience to fully explain this STUPIDLY COMPLEX Jutsu, I will link you to a description and the chapter in which it was displayed.
    
    
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  • Mangekyou Sharingan
    With this, it allows for movement tracking and the use of 3 VERY powerful Jutsu.
    
    • Tsukuyomi
      The ultimate occular genjutsu available only to those who have the Mangekyou Sharingan AND Itachi's most powerful Genjutsu. If direct eye contact is made, the opponent will be sent to the Nightmare Realm, where they will be continuously tortured until the genjutsu is released. Only a perfect Jinchuuriki or a Sharingan user can break this genjutsu.
      
      Itachi has such proficiency with this Genjutsu that he is literally able to alter the flow of time, fold the fabric of space, and EVEN control physical mass within his Nightmare Realm. He LITERALLY aalters reality itself. In an instant, he can send you to the nightmare realm for a fraction of a secont, but be it precieved by the opponent as a time of ath the most seen so far 72 hours! Even though merely an illusion, the pain is precieved as reality and can have damaging effects on the mind AND the body. So much that even a high-tier Jounin like Kakashi Hatake was put in the infermory for as long as an entire week.
      
    • Amaterasu
      This ability ignites anything in Itachi's gaze in the Black Flames of Hell. They burn even fire itself. The flames of Amaterasu burn anything and everything for seven days and seven nights or until the object is burned away into nothingness. The flames also burn very slowly, which produces agonizing torture upon combustion.
      
    • Susano'o
      
      
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      Itachi’s Susano’o is the strongest Jutsu in his arsenal. Weilding the legendary Totsuka Blade, said to be able to seal anything it pierces, and Yata Mirror, the shield that deflects all chakra elements, He could be essentially invincible.
      • Yasaka Beads

Now that we know a bit more about our combatants, we may let the battle commence! The setting will be an open field with no retreating. Intent to kill, as always. Itachi Isn't holding ANYTHING back (and is NOT Reanimated). Sasuke wants Itachi's head on the ground. . . How do YOU think this battle will go? Has Sasuke truely surpassed his brother, Itachi? Or does the Genius of the Hidden Leaf Villiage still stand at the peak of power?

Only one way to fing out. . .

And before I say "GO," one more time I must reiterate. . . ITACHI WANKERS! THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR YOUR :devil: COWABUNGA F**K!!! :devil: IF YOU WANT TO TROLL AND WANK TO ITACHI, PLEASE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! TROLL DAISY'S SH*T AND YOU WILL BE REPORTED!!!

Now with THAT being said. . .

LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!!!​

 

[Zexion~]

Itachi takes this simply due to the fact his susuno is better then sasukes

 

[Strawberry]

Okay so i will start off by saying their taijutsu is matched about matched. Itachi is faster, has stronger genjutsu. Sasuke however can break his genjutsu so its pointless. Going onto EMS we dont really know his true powers with ems. However he will no longer suffer from side affects. So sasukes only worries are chakra drain whereas itachi needs to worry about not going blind and would remain more cautious. Itachi on the other hand ahs full knowledge on uchiha techs were sauke might be lacking.

With that out of the way. i would like to say in the end itachi would win unless sasuke drags the battle long enough for itachi's body to give in. This is a possibility however, even in the end itachi can use izanami, izanagi (no senju dna but other uchiha were known to use so why not), overuse of susanoo could be lethal for itachi, but for sasuke getting hit with totsuka isnt an option.


Didnt read all just bits from here and there.

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Very insightful thread, bro.
Positive reputation to you. ^_^

 

[Penguin]

Sasuke EMS takes this. Anyone who says otherwise is an #Itachi-Wanker-Gone-Wild. Sasuke counters everything Itachi has, and was fighting on par with Itachi with a 3T sharingan.

 

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

Okay so i will start off by saying their taijutsu is matched about matched. Itachi is faster, has stronger genjutsu. Sasuke however can break his genjutsu so its pointless. Going onto EMS we dont really know his true powers with ems. However he will no longer suffer from side affects. So sasukes only worries are chakra drain whereas itachi needs to worry about not going blind and would remain more cautious. Itachi on the other hand ahs full knowledge on uchiha techs were sauke might be lacking.

With that out of the way. i would like to say in the end itachi would win unless sasuke drags the battle long enough for itachi's body to give in. This is a possibility however, even in the end itachi can use izanami, izanagi (no senju dna but other uchiha were known to use so why not), overuse of susanoo could be lethal for itachi, but for sasuke getting hit with totsuka isnt an option.


Didnt read all just bits from here and there.

That's cool. I know it's a lot. My threads tend to be quite long. lol but if you find the time, please read the rest. It'll clear things up a bit more and put things into perspective. ^_^

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Itachi said Sasuke needs MS to beat him.

Sasuke now has EMS.

I doubt if Sasuke is going to get another power-up this close to the end of the manga. So if people think he hasn't surpassed Itachi yet, then it's time to re-evaluate things.

 

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

Itachi said Sasuke needs MS to beat him.

Sasuke now has EMS.

I doubt if Sasuke is going to get another power-up this close to the end of the manga. So if people think he hasn't surpassed Itachi yet, then it's time to re-evaluate things.

That's what this thread is for. I'M re-evaluating things RIGHT NOW! I listed all of their capabilities as we know them and all of their possibe drawbacks. I even recaped their last battle. It's all in the text. People just have to be able to read an comprehend and THEN make a logical descision based on the facts. Weather it be Itachi winning or Sasuke winning. As long as logic and reasoning was used in deducing your answer, that's all I truely care about.

 

[Melanee]

If it was Sasuke before MS/EMS then Itachi wins, but as they are currently, it would be Sasuke.

 

[Strawberry]

sorry guys not trolling but i m trying really really hard to find a way to get around totsuka.... i dont understand there has to be some limit to the totsuka or some weakness. speed isnt one of them...

 

[KidGamer65]

Itachi takes this simply due to the fact his susuno is better then sasukes

Doesn't mean squat when Sasuke will outlast him in the Susanoo battle.

EMS Sasuke wins this.

 

[Zexion~]

Doesn't mean squat when Sasuke will outlast him in the Susanoo battle.

EMS Sasuke wins this.

..Toska pierces his susuno does it not?

 

[KidGamer65]

..Toska pierces his susuno does it not?

Of course not. What would even give you that idea in the first place?

 

[Zexion~]

Of course not. What would even give you that idea in the first place?

Because it is an ethereal weapon ... cant that breach a susuno?

 

[KidGamer65]

Because it is an ethereal weapon ... cant that breach a susuno?

It being an ethereal weapon didn't stop it from physically piercing Orochimaru and causing blood to come out of his back.

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[P3ĮÑ]

Sasuke with EMS defeats itachi

 

[Tartarus]

EMS Sasuke

 

[JUICEMON GENESIS]

I see everyone is leaning towards EMS Sasuke. As I expected. And I agree. HOwever, I don't think the fight will be easy. Do you agree with Daisy?

 

[Tartarus]

I see everyone is leaning towards EMS Sasuke. As I expected. And I agree. HOwever, I don't think the fight will be easy. Do you agree with Daisy?

yep, high diff

 

[Transcendence]

Definitely EMS Sasuke.

EMS allows him to outlast Itachi more so than he could before. Genjutsu won't work on Sasuke. His immense control over Amaterasu is too much for Itachi to handle.