Itachi vs Sasuke (Gaiden) Taijutsu

[KidGamer65]

Lee could do the same things displayed and all those moves used are basic Taijutsu so..Like I said Sasuke would be able to compete with Lee without the Sharingan to aid him in helping him see where Lee attacks next.

1. Prove that Lee could do the same things. Because everyone in that gif is tiers ahead of him in physical strength and speed.
2. Learn what "basic" Taijutsu is. Either way, what you want to classify the moves they made is irrelevant to me as those are only semantics. Fact of the matter is, being able to tango with Momoshiki and match cloaked Naruto in physical ability automatically puts him above any version of Lee. Far far far above.

Sasuke would decimate Lee in a matter of seconds. :lol

 

[Shruikan]

Taijutsu alone without Sasuke being able to utilize nothing but Taijutsu then Lee would stomp Sasuke. Lee devoted his life to Taijutsu no one bar Gai post 8 gates would be able to keep up with him.

What?Didnt Sasuke learn in 2 days what took Lee years to master?

 

[UzumakiRyu]

With or without the Sharingan, Sasuke's body will retain it's speed, which far outclasses Lee, until he opens the Seventh Gate, for him, possibly Eighth, seeing as Sasuke with his Rinnegan is on Eight Gated Gai level.

With that said, Sasuke shoves his arm through Itachi before his brain registers. If we equalize their speed, then they basically go h2h forever, or Sasuke gains a slight edge.

And I didn't even factor his fire taijutsu thing in.

No Sharingan, No Rinnegan. Nothing but Sasuke's Taijutsu ability. No Chakra based boosts that improve it either. OP did state this is only a Taijutsu versus thread lol.

Sorry but Adult Sasuke who trains mostly to strengthen his jutsu / eye techniques vs Adult Rock Lee who always trains to strengthen his body speed etc to improve his Taijutsu ability.

What?Didnt Sasuke learn in 2 days what took Lee years to master?

He was able to do that and beat Lee that time due to his Sharingan and since OP stated this is Taijutsu versus Taijutsu only that holds no meaning here.

1. Prove that Lee could do the same things. Because everyone in that gif is tiers ahead of him in physical strength and speed.
2. Learn what "basic" Taijutsu is. Either way, what you want to classify the moves they made is irrelevant to me as those are only semantics. Fact of the matter is, being able to tango with Momoshiki and match cloaked Naruto in physical ability automatically puts him above any version of Lee. Far far far above.

Sasuke would decimate Lee in a matter of seconds. :lol

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These gifs are just Kid Lee, Jump years ahead and like I said he's more than capable.


2. I was wrong the moves they displayed weren't "basic" but they are still just Taijutsu specific attacks they used because they knew not to use Ninjutsu attacks against them. Prove Adult Lee someone who trains his life training and specializing in Taijutsu could not do exactly do what Naruto and Sasuke did.

 

[Pakura]

If you are still doing versus or power level questions about Naruto in 2016, you probably need to reevaluate your life.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Naruto >>>>> Rock Lee >>> Sasuke

 

[KidGamer65]

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These gifs are just Kid Lee, Jump years ahead and like I said he's more than capable.


2. I was wrong the moves they displayed weren't "basic" but they are still just Taijutsu specific attacks they used because they knew not to use Ninjutsu attacks against them. Prove Adult Lee someone who trains his life training and specializing in Taijutsu could not do exactly do what Naruto and Sasuke did.

You wasted your time posting all these gifs. Rock Lee's style being more refined is irrelevant when Naruto and Sasuke's physical capabilities make him look like a child in comparison. And lol what? I really don't like when people do this. You made the claim so you better prove it. Not my job to argue for you. The only advantage Lee has is that his skill is more refined. Sasuke is still far stronger than him, more durable than him and far faster than he is. The only way you can argue him winning is if Dojutsu is completely restricted, but even then it's iffy due to Sasuke's ridiculous jump in speed. With Dojutsu he slays him low difficulty.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

What?Didnt Sasuke learn in 2 days what took Lee years to master?

1. Prove that Lee could do the same things. Because everyone in that gif is tiers ahead of him in physical strength and speed.
2. Learn what "basic" Taijutsu is. Either way, what you want to classify the moves they made is irrelevant to me as those are only semantics. Fact of the matter is, being able to tango with Momoshiki and match cloaked Naruto in physical ability automatically puts him above any version of Lee. Far far far above.

Sasuke would decimate Lee in a matter of seconds. :lol

You wasted your time posting all these gifs. Rock Lee's style being more refined is irrelevant when Naruto and Sasuke's physical capabilities make him look like a child in comparison. And lol what? I really don't like when people do this. You made the claim so you better prove it. Not my job to argue for you. The only advantage Lee has is that his skill is more refined. Sasuke is still far stronger than him, more durable than him and far faster than he is. The only way you can argue him winning is if Dojutsu is completely restricted, but even then it's iffy due to Sasuke's ridiculous jump in speed. With Dojutsu he slays him low difficulty.

Oh so you tell me to prove how Lee could do what Sasuke and Naruto did against Momo's guard to which I shit on and I ask you to do the same and you give me excuses? lol

 

[Zerox553]

No Sharingan, No Rinnegan. Nothing but Sasuke's Taijutsu ability. No Chakra based boosts that improve it either. OP did state this is only a Taijutsu versus thread lol.

Sorry but Adult Sasuke who trains mostly to strengthen his jutsu / eye techniques vs Adult Rock Lee who always trains to strengthen his body speed etc to improve his Taijutsu ability.



He was able to do that and beat Lee that time due to his Sharingan and since OP stated this is Taijutsu versus Taijutsu only that holds no meaning here.



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These gifs are just Kid Lee, Jump years ahead and like I said he's more than capable.


2. I was wrong the moves they displayed weren't "basic" but they are still just Taijutsu specific attacks they used because they knew not to use Ninjutsu attacks against them. Prove Adult Lee someone who trains his life training and specializing in Taijutsu could not do exactly do what Naruto and Sasuke did.

I'm sorry, but did this guy just compare Kid Gaara with Momoshiki post Kinishiki absorption. I think we've reached critical mass people, the hate is so real he now downplays villains in order to make Sasuke look weaker. Momoshiki is only kid gaara level, what a time to be alive.

OP: Sasuke stomps based off the physical feats he showed off in the Boruto movie.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

No Sharingan, No Rinnegan. Nothing but Sasuke's Taijutsu ability. No Chakra based boosts that improve it either. OP did state this is only a Taijutsu versus thread lol.

Sorry but Adult Sasuke who trains mostly to strengthen his jutsu / eye techniques vs Adult Rock Lee who always trains to strengthen his body speed etc to improve his Taijutsu ability.



He was able to do that and beat Lee that time due to his Sharingan and since OP stated this is Taijutsu versus Taijutsu only that holds no meaning here.



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I'm sorry, but did this guy just compare Kid Gaara with Momoshiki post Kinishiki absorption. I think we've reached critical mass people, the hate is so real he now downplays villains in order to make Sasuke look weaker. Momoshiki is only kid gaara level, what a time to be alive.

OP: Sasuke stomps based off the physical feats he showed off in the Boruto movie.

Actually no if you read the posts here you'd have known that I like Kidgamer asked gave him pictures like he wanted of Lee having the capability to perform the same Taijutsu moves he used against Momo's guard and I did.

Learn to read before judging what I posted.

 

[KidGamer65]

Oh so you tell me to prove how Lee could do what Sasuke and Naruto did against Momo's guard to which I shit on and I ask you to do the same and you give me excuses? lol

Look. :lol I'm not about to drag this argument on with you considering I know how low your quality of argumentation is and considering the fact that you clearly don't know how to argue since you are asking me to prove that Lee can't do what you claimed he can do even though in a debate YOU PROVE YOUR STANCE. Not to mention I've already explained why Lee can't be handed their feats, if you want to do you what you do best and ignore evidence then by all means go right ahead. Not going to go on for pages.

-You can't give Lee other character's feats.
-Naruto and Sasuke are far faster than him.
-Far more reflexive than him.
-Have more physical power than him.

Yet somehow you think Lee is going to replicate the feats of people better than him in every single area aside from refined skill? Which isn't relevant when you are facing off against people that much better than you? Nice joke. And what exactly did you shit on buddy? You posted gifs of KID LEE vs. KIMIMARO and then said "lol because Adult Lee>Kid Lee, Adult Lee can do what Sasuke and Naruto did" even though a little ass kid should be able to tell me how ridiculously large the gap in logic is. Where is the proof that Adult Lee is so much stronger than his kid self that he can match Naruto or Sasuke or take on Momoshiki on his own? That's what I'm waiting for. "The moves he made" are irrelevant if those moves don't have enough power or speed behind them to take on the opponent.

Start arguing correctly. If you can't, then don't respond. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Look. :lol I'm not about to drag this argument on with you considering I know how low your quality of argumentation is and considering the fact that you clearly don't know how to argue since you are asking me to prove that Lee can't do what you claimed he can do even though in a debate YOU PROVE YOUR STANCE. Not to mention I've already explained why Lee can't be handed their feats, if you want to do you what you do best and ignore evidence then by all means go right ahead. Not going to go on for pages.

-You can't give Lee other character's feats.
-Naruto and Sasuke are far faster than him.
-Far more reflexive than him.
-Have more physical power than him.

Yet somehow you think Lee is going to replicate the feats of people better than him in every single area aside from refined skill? Which isn't relevant when you are facing off against people that much better than you? Nice joke. And what exactly did you shit on buddy? You posted gifs of KID LEE vs. KIMIMARO and then said "lol because Adult Lee>Kid Lee, Adult Lee can do what Sasuke and Naruto did" even though a little ass kid should be able to tell me how ridiculously large the gap in logic is. Where is the proof that Adult Lee is so much stronger than his kid self that he can match Naruto or Sasuke or take on Momoshiki on his own? That's what I'm waiting for. "The moves he made" are irrelevant if those moves don't have enough power or speed behind them to take on the opponent.

Start arguing correctly. If you can't, then don't respond. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

You specifically asked me to show you Lee being able to perform the moves Sasuke and Naruto did in their fight against Momo's guard I did. How am i giving him feats he already has by the gifs I showed you? >.>

I can't prove to you Adult lee's gap in strength versus his younger self because those haven't been displayed >.> Why you asking something I can't prove until Adult Lee is shown maybe in the upcoming Baruto Manga then maybe but now I can't.

But common sense should rule that Lee would train between the years and become stronger and since he's useless at everything but Taijutsu why is it so hard for people to fathom he could fight toe to toe with Momo's guard in Taijutsu only not when the dude's being hurled high powered jutsu and he'd return them back in that sitatuation Lee would get destroyed but my point is Taijutsu not anything else....

 

[Ambivalence]

Lee could do the same things displayed and all those moves used are basic Taijutsu so..Like I said Sasuke would be able to compete with Lee without the Sharingan to aid him in helping him see where Lee attacks next.

Lmfao...

Typical NDS.

 

[KidGamer65]

You specifically asked me to show you Lee being able to perform the moves Sasuke and Naruto did in their fight against Momo's guard I did. How am i giving him feats he already has by the gifs I showed you? >.>

I can't prove to you Adult lee's gap in strength versus his younger self because those haven't been displayed >.> Why you asking something I can't prove until Adult Lee is shown maybe in the upcoming Baruto Manga then maybe but now I can't.

But common sense should rule that Lee would train between the years and become stronger and since he's useless at everything but Taijutsu why is it so hard for people to fathom he could fight toe to toe with Momo's guard in Taijutsu only not when the dude's being hurled high powered jutsu and he'd return them back in that sitatuation Lee would get destroyed but my point is Taijutsu not anything else....

Dude. No. I said prove that Lee can do what they did. Meaning taking on someone of Momoshiki's level and winning. Why would I ask if he can make the same movements? That's irrelevant.

Then you don't have a point.

And no, Lee training doesn't mean that Lee becomes that strong.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Dude. No. I said prove that Lee can do what they did. Meaning taking on someone of Momoshiki's level and winning. Why would I ask if he can make the same movements? That's irrelevant.

Then you don't have a point.

And no, Lee training doesn't mean that Lee becomes that strong.

@Bold
So prove something that has never happened in the manga.
Lee isn't anywhere that level but you can't say he couldn't simply face them with Taijutsu like Naruto and the others did and last at least a minute or so and Lee could use the gates if he needed

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Not really. Sasuke is superior in taijutsu. What does Sage mode adds to Naruto? More vitality/resistance, speed and brute strength. It doesn't add technique. Sasuke is faster than Naruto, and his taijutsu technique itself is better.



What? Without the sharingan? Stopped reading when you said that. Did we just move to "without that thing" stuff now? :lol

sasuke is not faster than naruto

 

[BlackBison]

I like how this turned from sasuke vs itachi (taijustu only) to sasuke vs lee (taijustu only), but I guess i'll partake in this debate too and put my 2cents in.

@Bold
So prove something that has never happened in the manga.
Lee isn't anywhere that level but you can't say he couldn't simply face them with Taijutsu like Naruto and the others did and last at least a minute or so and Lee could use the gates if he needed

One thing in a taijustu fight only (meaning that for the sake of argument sasuke is able to deactivate rinnegan in this scenario) is that Lee can't use the gates. This means that the feats that sasuke did against momoshiki, is something lee couldn't fathom doing. Yes, lee taijustu is more than likely better and more refined than sasuke (this is due to the fact that lee only has taijustu while sasuke has other weapons in his arsenal). However, once you factor in sasuke level compared to lee's level you'll see that sasuke would beat lee in a straight up taijustu fight.

When it comes to taijustu fights speed is one of the most important factors in the fight just like a normal shinobi fight. This is not kid lee being the fastest shinobi during the chunnin exam. This is adult lee going up against adult sasuke who is clearly one of the fastest shinobis alive. Also, the momoshiki fight showed us that sasuke can dish out the same power in his taijustu, that naruto can using the kyubbi. Lee is good but sasuke is just the better ninja with and without his dojustu, ninjustu, genjustu, and kenjustu.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Let me set something straight my intention is not a Lee vs Sasuke (Taijutsu) discussion but it was in the first place saying that Lee could of performed using Taijutsu like Naruto and Sasuke did against Momoshiki's guard and get some hits in.

I like how this turned from sasuke vs itachi (taijustu only) to sasuke vs lee (taijustu only), but I guess i'll partake in this debate too and put my 2cents in.



One thing in a taijustu fight only (meaning that for the sake of argument sasuke is able to deactivate rinnegan in this scenario) is that Lee can't use the gates. This means that the feats that sasuke did against momoshiki, is something lee couldn't fathom doing. Yes, lee taijustu is more than likely better and more refined than sasuke (this is due to the fact that lee only has taijustu while sasuke has other weapons in his arsenal). However, once you factor in sasuke level compared to lee's level you'll see that sasuke would beat lee in a straight up taijustu fight.

When it comes to taijustu fights speed is one of the most important factors in the fight just like a normal shinobi fight. This is not kid lee being the fastest shinobi during the chunnin exam. This is adult lee going up against adult sasuke who is clearly one of the fastest shinobis alive. Also, the momoshiki fight showed us that sasuke can dish out the same power in his taijustu, that naruto can using the kyubbi. Lee is good but sasuke is just the better ninja with and without his dojustu, ninjustu, genjustu, and kenjustu.

There's been no scans how Adult Lee has performed ever during Gaiden / The Last or Baruto Movie so saying he couldn't handle himself against Momoshiki's guard even at all is just bs

Do you guys not believe in his Taijutsu ability that much that if he were to just attempt to hit Momo he would evaporate into thin air and die? lol

 

[BLAZE]

Adult sasuke
from what i saw in the movie sasuke is a whole different tier taijutsu user

Lee could do the same things displayed and all those moves used are basic Taijutsu so..Like I said Sasuke would be able to compete with Lee without the Sharingan to aid him in helping him see where Lee attacks next.

Dem Kishimoto on NB

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Started from the bottom now we here...

Below the ****ing bottom.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Adult sasuke
from what i saw in the movie sasuke is a whole different tier taijutsu user
Dem Kishimoto on NB

Wouldn't** Without the Sharingan. Thanks for quoting that I forgot to edit that part.

"Dem Kishimoto on NB" Lol ok.

OT: Sasuke isn't in another "taijutsu tier" then Adult Lee seeing as Lee is a Master Taijutsu Specialist. Sasuke's strengths lie in his eyes / chakra pool not Taijutsu. He's very good but Lee's one of the best at Taijutsu bar Gai.