[VS] Itachi vs Kakuzu and Hidan

[KidGamer65]

I meant blitzing as in speeding towards him :| not catching him off guard, and if there is no knowledge how exactly would Itachi know to decapitate hidan, simply stabbing him would only undo the gen-jutsu he put him in not to mention kakuzu's hearts can pull him out of the genjutsu by launching a wind style at him U_U And why would Kakashi not use Sharingan Genjutsu on him if it were that easy?

And the scans you showed me were that of speedy attack's no where did it show any movement speed feats, and the wind heart was able to get into the air immediately

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no reason the others can not as well, also how fast are the Yasaka's ..as i would think they could be avoided, or even deflected with Kakuzu's wind jutsu. (perhaps not the deflected part)

Well that's not even what blitzing means. If Hidan is in the fight (Which he is) then at some point during the fight he will find out that Hidan is immortal, as Hidan will be taken out AFTER Kakuzu has been beaten. Your Wind style counter for the Genjutsu is invalid as he isn't going to bother going after Hidan (Who can't even hurt him) until Kakuzu is beaten,

1) Itachi and Kakashi are not the same people, different fighting styles.
2) Genjutsu is in Itachi's fighting style, not Kakashi's.
3) Itachi>Kakashi at Genjutsu.

Movement speed clearly means Itachi's movement speed, not Susanoo's movement speed.

@bold: That was vs a set of completely different people, not vs Itachi. That scan has no worth here.

Yasaka is as fast as FRS.

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Not to mention he can throw them out individually allowing him to cover more area.

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Hearts get killed by this.

Not to mention he has Amaterasu to kill off the ones who couldn't hurt him.

And do you even have scans of the other hearts flying? I've only seen a scan of the wind heart flying.

 

[Zexion~]

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Anyways , that is sort of what blitzing means, he was attacking him in a blitz .. (the official definition) Does not mean the opponent has to be hit by the attack, Why can't Kakuzu grab the Yataka's himself?

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Don't believe they have any burnign properties, and if he can't grab them he can at least deter their path, also it being as fast as a FRS is not true as Naruto was closer to the orb, as he was on a rock being pulled up by CT, Also i doub't he can throw it at multiple targets that are surrounding him, Yes Kakuzu has no way to get past Susano'o but if the hearts were just to remain flying i doubt even the YM's could hit em, especially with Kakuzu picking most of them out of the sky as well, Hell Kakuzu can even restrain the arm's of susano'o as Itachi does not have an enton wall, and he would have to use up more of his limited stamina to remove the threads holding susano'o by Ameterasuing them, which Kakuzu then can just remove the threads afterwards, Outlasting Itachi is not a far fetched idea ..

not to mention If this is Indeed Sick Itachi once he starts coughing up blood its GG because Hidan would then end it with a ritual U_U Uncanny but possible

 

[Penguin]

Zombie Duo pulls off an upset.

 

[KidGamer65]

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Anyways , that is sort of what blitzing means, he was attacking him in a blitz .. (the official definition) Does not mean the opponent has to be hit by the attack, Why can't Kakuzu grab the Yataka's himself?

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Don't believe they have any burnign properties, and if he can't grab them he can at least deter their path, also it being as fast as a FRS is not true as Naruto was closer to the orb, as he was on a rock being pulled up by CT, Also i doub't he can throw it at multiple targets that are surrounding him, Yes Kakuzu has no way to get past Susano'o but if the hearts were just to remain flying i doubt even the YM's could hit em, especially with Kakuzu picking most of them out of the sky as well, Hell Kakuzu can even restrain the arm's of susano'o as Itachi does not have an enton wall, and he would have to use up more of his limited stamina to remove the threads holding susano'o by Ameterasuing them, which Kakuzu then can just remove the threads afterwards, Outlasting Itachi is not a far fetched idea .

They wouldn't even be aimed at him, how is he going to grab them? How is he going to deter them when he isn't even near them?

He doesn't need to throw it multiple targets, just at one. What speed and reactions do they have to even let you believe they can easily dodge them. Not to mention this is assuming most of them even make it into the air, which isn't happening.

Is stamina your only counter to Itachi? At the worst point of his life, he was able to use two large scale Amaterasus on Sasuke, along with Tsukuyomi (Had it broken too, which causes more strain) and he used a Lvl 4 Susanoo to take care of Orochimaru, used a level 3 Susanoo against Sasuke, and took on Kirin with a level 2 Susanoo. The masks on the hearts aren't that big. Amaterasu would simply have to light those up and not the whole entire thing.

Or Itachi could simply evade the threads, or not even get into his range. Not to mention Susanoo's sword could probably cut them.

not to mention If this is Indeed Sick Itachi once he starts coughing up blood its GG because Hidan would then end it with a ritual U_U Uncanny but possible

lol, no.

 

[slimreaper]

Yes he does, he can simply hurt himself and the genjutsu will break.

Yata mirror only protect the front, it can't protect him from attacks from behind. His susanoo is going to get destroyed.

It tanked it? Last time I checked Kirin completely obliterated it lmao, reread the manga.

the point is kakuzu has nothing on that level. you can't just hurt yourself out of tsukuyomi or kakashi would have done it in the 72 hours he was in it.
Even without yata, kakuzu has nothing to break V4 and while hes trying he is an easy totsuka target

 

[Zexion~]

They wouldn't even be aimed at him, how is he going to grab them? How is he going to deter them when he isn't even near them?

He doesn't need to throw it multiple targets, just at one. What speed and reactions do they have to even let you believe they can easily dodge them. Not to mention this is assuming most of them even make it into the air, which isn't happening.

Is stamina your only counter to Itachi? At the worst point of his life, he was able to use two large scale Amaterasus on Sasuke, along with Tsukuyomi (Had it broken too, which causes more strain) and he used a Lvl 4 Susanoo to take care of Orochimaru, used a level 3 Susanoo against Sasuke, and took on Kirin with a level 2 Susanoo. The masks on the hearts aren't that big. Amaterasu would simply have to light those up and not the whole entire thing.

Or Itachi could simply evade the threads, or not even get into his range. Not to mention Susanoo's sword could probably cut them.




lol, no.

Ok what makes you think that the hearts are not getting in the air ..im curious? And they don't need evasive feats ..its hard to hit something moving that fast, in the air with something that only moves in a strait line , ..Yes stamina is the only way Kakuzu can win, due to the fact he really has nothing that can break through a v3 susano and above,

Well as you can see in that scan the threads can reach a considerable range yes perhaps one of them will have to die for him to realize he should convert to his method, but from there he may be able to reach and halt the Yasaka's by slamming into them mid-air with his threads...And im saying they would restrain the hand holding the susano'o sword not allowing it to move ...

Its not a laughing matter i see no reason as to why this would not happen, itachi has no knowledge on hidan's need for blood....and once the blood reaches the ground hidan need only the smallest bit, and as you said he would not be paying attention to Hidann, as he would be trying to take out Kakuzu first ..

 

[KidGamer65]

Ok what makes you think that the hearts are not getting in the air ..im curious? And they don't need evasive feats ..its hard to hit something moving that fast, in the air with something that only moves in a strait line , ..Yes stamina is the only way Kakuzu can win, due to the fact he really has nothing that can break through a v3 susano and above,

Itachi's speed>>>Heart's speed.
Speed of Itachi's attacks>>>Heart's speed.
Conclusion, some of them get killed before they ever make into the air.

Where did you get that they are moving fast from?

Well as you can see in that scan the threads can reach a considerable range yes perhaps one of them will have to die for him to realize he should convert to his method, but from there he may be able to reach and halt the Yasaka's by slamming into them mid-air with his threads...And im saying they would restrain the hand holding the susano'o sword not allowing it to move ...

I wouldn't call that a considerable range, that's probably only 5-10 meters at the very most, and for the hearts to attempt the strategy you say, they will need to be higher than that as Itachi would be able to jump up and attack them just how Naruto jumped up and attacked Kakuzu.

Not to mention they would have to be moving fast enough to do so.


And I said he would cut them, BEFORE, they restrain his Susanoo.

Its not a laughing matter i see no reason as to why this would not happen, itachi has no knowledge on hidan's need for blood....and once the blood reaches the ground hidan need only the smallest bit, and as you said he would not be paying attention to Hidann, as he would be trying to take out Kakuzu first ..

For Hidan to get the blood, he'd have to first get near Itachi (As he will cough up blood, near himself), and if he attempts such a thing well, Susanoo crushes him just like it crushed Danzo.

 

[Cooh]

Itachi takes this mid diff

-Hidan is a non factor. A Ribcage Susanoo would effortlessly tank any attack he has, so Itachi can focus on Kakuzu and take Hidan out whenever he feels like it.

-Amaterasu one shots Kakuzu if its before his hearts come out. If its after his hearts come out, then Itachi can manifest A V2 Susanoo and simply crush the masks one by one, while Susanoo tanks any offense from either of the Zombie duo as they have nothing to get past a V2.

I agree, nothing more to add

 

[Zexion~]

Itachi's speed>>>Heart's speed.
Speed of Itachi's attacks>>>Heart's speed.
Conclusion, some of them get killed before they ever make into the air.

Where did you get that they are moving fast from?


I wouldn't call that a considerable range, that's probably only 5-10 meters at the very most, and for the hearts to attempt the strategy you say, they will need to be higher than that as Itachi would be able to jump up and attack them just how Naruto jumped up and attacked Kakuzu.

Not to mention they would have to be moving fast enough to do so.


And I said he would cut them, BEFORE, they restrain his Susanoo.




For Hidan to get the blood, he'd have to first get near Itachi (As he will cough up blood, near himself), and if he attempts such a thing well, Susanoo crushes him just like it crushed Danzo.

^Not with Kakuzu restraining him however.. if Kakuzu took a similar approach as Oro's 8 branch, his threads coming at him from different directions, Itachi could not totska them all , just like he could not slice all the Hydra's heads off in one swing so the restraining method still may work

Also Kakuzu's whole body is made of threads i can guarantee he can increase the range at which those go too,

The threads were able to move fast enough that they could crush the ground at which the impacted,

You can see that the wind heart at least moves fast due to it being here

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and then before the dust even settles its here

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and again no reason why the other ones do not do the same

 

[Bogard]

Itachi high difficulty. If he is sick, he will most likely lose though

 

[Prince Charles]

^Not with Kakuzu restraining him however.. if Kakuzu took a similar approach as Oro's 8 branch, his threads coming at him from different directions, Itachi could not totska them all , just like he could not slice all the Hydra's heads off in one swing so the restraining method still may work

Also Kakuzu's whole body is made of threads i can guarantee he can increase the range at which those go too,

The threads were able to move fast enough that they could crush the ground at which the impacted,

You can see that the wind heart at least moves fast due to it being here

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and then before the dust even settles its here

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and again no reason why the other ones do not do the same

And not taking into factor into his sussano which was capable of slicing through Kimi's bone release like butter[

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]. The sword covered a considerable range over the bones considering how it was able to slice a large quantity of them in one swing. You can also notice the speed of the slash.

Large amounts of the threads coming in other directions serve no purpose here as I proved the speediness and accuracy of the sussano sword. The thread's arent that durable as seeing kakashi sliced through them with a simple chidori[

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are you saying kakuzu will restrain Itachi? Or restrain his sussano? Either way done both methods won't work. If kakuzu attempts to restrain Itachi he simply activates sussano or render that strategy useless. Rendering his sussano won't do it simply because of the sussanos unique traits of having multiple arms[

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]. He may be able to restrain some arms but the other arms that are free will attack kakuzu.

You shouldnt underestimate the arm length of sussano[

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]. The masks will eventually fall victim to sussano's powers.

 

[Optimistic]

Its basically Itachi vs Kakuzu.

Kakuzu can't do anything to V2 Susano'o something a ill Itachi can keep up for a long time.Itachi wins high or mid diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

And not taking into factor into his sussano which was capable of slicing through Kimi's bone release like butter[

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]. The sword covered a considerable range over the bones considering how it was able to slice a large quantity of them in one swing. You can also notice the speed of the slash.

Large amounts of the threads coming in other directions serve no purpose here as I proved the speediness and accuracy of the sussano sword. The thread's arent that durable as seeing kakashi sliced through them with a simple chidori[

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].

are you saying kakuzu will restrain Itachi? Or restrain his sussano? Either way done both methods won't work. If kakuzu attempts to restrain Itachi he simply activates sussano or render that strategy useless. Rendering his sussano won't do it simply because of the sussanos unique traits of having multiple arms[

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]. He may be able to restrain some arms but the other arms that are free will attack kakuzu.

You shouldnt underestimate the arm length of sussano[

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]. The masks will eventually fall victim to sussano's powers.

This. I have nothing to add.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Hidan still takes his blood after Amaterasu.

 

[AGoodBoy]

hidan says he has the slowest and least effective attacks in akatsuki. He's a non factor.

Kakuzu gets lit up with amaterasu at which point he'd slowly be burning to death whenever doton is off. Even if he sheds threads, they'd still be on fire. He can't shed limbs and replace them, therefore any lit limbs (his entire body will be on fire) will still be on fire even if he drops it off or not. When he releases masks, they too would already be on fire since amaterasu was already covering his entire body.

After kakkuzu is gone, itachi cuts of both of hidans arms (like he did to oro) and then watches as he cusses him with no way of injurying him

 

[Zexion~]

And not taking into factor into his sussano which was capable of slicing through Kimi's bone release like butter[

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]. The sword covered a considerable range over the bones considering how it was able to slice a large quantity of them in one swing. You can also notice the speed of the slash.

Large amounts of the threads coming in other directions serve no purpose here as I proved the speediness and accuracy of the sussano sword. The thread's arent that durable as seeing kakashi sliced through them with a simple chidori[

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].

are you saying kakuzu will restrain Itachi? Or restrain his sussano? Either way done both methods won't work. If kakuzu attempts to restrain Itachi he simply activates sussano or render that strategy useless. Rendering his sussano won't do it simply because of the sussanos unique traits of having multiple arms[

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]. He may be able to restrain some arms but the other arms that are free will attack kakuzu.

You shouldnt underestimate the arm length of sussano[

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]. The masks will eventually fall victim to sussano's powers.

I see no reason why he can't restrain the other arms, too again he has near unlimited threads, besides can he aven do that while having totska and YM out, seems like he would of done it against 8 branch technique, and well KG was saying he was launching Yasaka's at the hearts flying .. but i guess ill go with your way that he is in fact focusing on the threads being fired from Kakuzu,

First off it was a raikiri that cut Kakuzu's threads .. not that it matters lol, but anyways slicing them does noting as more will keep coming, its not like the threads are alive and cease to go at itachi because you slice the ones nearest itachi off, no they would just keep coming U_U, because the momentum of the threads would continue, so Itachi would have to do repeated strikes with his sword ( does he even have another besides totska?)

the arm leangth of susano is about 10 meters in that scan KG already said they would have to fly higher anyways so that does not reach the hearts at all,

 

[Batches]

Took a lot out on naruto and kakashi to take down 30% of itachi's power and that wasn't to much before they had to fight kakuzu, kakashi took down part of kakuzu pretty easily. so I assume itachi with susanoo takes him down, hiden is fodder. Everybody saying he escapes. his genjutsu needs to realize he can't move. these two can't break susanoo, so far only juubito has broken a susanoo that I can remember of the top of my head.

itachi mid difficulty.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

hidan says he has the slowest and least effective attacks in akatsuki. He's a non factor.

Kakuzu gets lit up with amaterasu

Itachi uses his MS, his eye bleeds, Hidan takes said blood and kills Itachi via ritual.

GG no re.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Itachi uses his MS, his eye bleeds, Hidan takes said blood and kills Itachi via ritual.

GG no re.

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As much as I love Zonbi Konbi and hate Itagay, they aren't piercing this.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

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As much as I love Zonbi Konbi and hate Itagay, they aren't piercing this.

Who cares?

If Itachi uses his MS his eye will bleed and Hidan can do his ritual. Yata won't do shi t.