Itachi vs Jiraiya.

[ixc]

Why did itachi and kisame run from jiraiya the first time they met?
SM Jiraiya would be able to beat itachi.

Itachi is a Leaf ninja and was one of the good guys, he didn't want to kill Jiraiya, Kisame asked Itachi why they left and said ''You could have'' stating that Kisame knew that Itachi could have killed Jiraiya in no time...

Itachi also said that every strong Shinobi and jutsu's have their weaknesses, and if you know that you're pretty much invincible since you know that there must be a way to defeat your opponent and we've all seen Itachi's arsenal of weapons and jutsu's and how effectively he uses them.

Jiraiya is way too slow for Itachi, Itachi was able to **** up Orochimaru with Genjutsu while Orochimaru is a pretty good Genjutsu user, Jiraiya has nothing to counter Itachi's Genjutsu let alone counter Amaturasu or Sasuno'o.

Quite the bullshit that Itachi said that there was no way to defeat him, because Itachi wanted Kisame to believe that they had no chance so that they could leave Naruto alone since Itachi is one of the good guys and didn't want to attack his ''friends''.

Itachi takes this without any difficulty at all like he did with all the other opponents he fought against.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Not only Itachi did never want to fight leaf people, he was already exhausted to the point he had to deactivate his Sharingan. Itachi was in a position where he and Kisame were caught off guard by Jiraiya, while he wasn't even aiming at him but was busy with Sasuke. The only choice he had in this situation, was take his ally with him and to escape.

People need to see that Jiraiya is inferior to Itachi in all meanings. There's no way Jiraiya can escape Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, especially not if someone is using both, able to kill you both with one eye contact and one glance, on top being able to use Susanoo with the Totsuka sword and Yata mirror.

that is your view and how you analyzed itachi's attacks but, this view can actually make itachi the strongest in the whole series (unless he is fighting extremely fast shinobi's) and that is completely false. exhausted or not (he had kisame with him), IF your view is entirely correct then all what itachi need to bring jiraiya down is ONE amaterasu (he was capable of using one) but why didn't he do it if it was gona be that easy to beat jiraiya ?? and if you are gona say "well .... he didn't wana kill a strong shinobi of the leaf" then he could have just roasted jiraiya a bit, and put the amaterasu off or lure jiraiya to tsukuyomi but again, why didn't he do it ?? he showed that he doesn't mind hurting other konoha shinobi who were weaker than him, so ...... i really don't like this match up because people won't really answer each others questions, instead will go on saying "amtaerasu, tsukuyomi, totsuka blade" this will go no where .....

 

[VolatileSoul]

Itachi wins. People like to quote that one little ambiguous moment, when it is debated whether Itachi was even speaking about Jiraiya at all. Even in that same chapter Kisame questioned why Itachi needed to retreat. And later in part two we find out that Itachi was a double agent. Even Kakashi questioned why Itachi didn't simply kill him. Now we know why.

That one phrase from Itachi no longer holds any merit, and it is clear that Itachi is stonger and more intelligent. Either way, this is how I see it. He was able to one shot Jiraiya's equal or maybe even superior twice. He was a double agent and it would make no sense to take down his ally.

Unless Jiraiya somehow has a counter to Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, which he doesn't, he looses.

 

[NarutoUzu69]

Itachi super high diff

 

[ixc]

Itachi wins. People like to quote that one little ambiguous moment, when it is debated whether Itachi was even speaking about Jiraiya at all. Even in that same chapter Kisame questioned why Itachi needed to retreat. And later in part two we find out that Itachi was a double agent. Even Kakashi questioned why Itachi didn't simply kill him. Now we know why.

That one phrase from Itachi no longer holds any merit, and it is clear that Itachi is stonger and more intelligent. Either way, this is how I see it. He was able to one shot Jiraiya's equal or maybe even superior twice. He was a double agent and it would make no sense to take down his ally.

Unless Jiraiya somehow has a counter to Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, which he doesn't, he looses.

This explains it all, Kisame clearly said ''You could have'' meaning that Kisame knew that Itachi could have ****ed him up and Kakashi too wondered why Itachi didn't just kill him.

 

[Jenga]

You are saying that Jiraiya is slow, I don't know if you watch anime or not but have you seen how fast jiraiya is in SM against Pain?
Jiraiya problably knows about itachi's abilities and won't just look into his eyes.
You guys act like The uchihas are unbeatable.

 

[ixc]

that is your view and how you analyzed itachi's attacks but, this view can actually make itachi the strongest in the whole series (unless he is fighting extremely fast shinobi's) and that is completely false. exhausted or not (he had kisame with him), IF your view is entirely correct then all what itachi need to bring jiraiya down is ONE amaterasu (he was capable of using one) but why didn't he do it if it was gona be that easy to beat jiraiya ?? and if you are gona say "well .... he didn't wana kill a strong shinobi of the leaf" then he could have just roasted jiraiya a bit, and put the amaterasu off or lure jiraiya to tsukuyomi but again, why didn't he do it ?? he showed that he doesn't mind hurting other konoha shinobi who were weaker than him, so ...... i really don't like this match up because people won't really answer each others questions, instead will go on saying "amtaerasu, tsukuyomi, totsuka blade" this will go nowhere .....

Hahaha, typical counter from a Jiraiya fan, why would Itachi want to roaster Jiraiya a bit? Sasuke showed up and Itachi at first had no intention to deal with Sasuke, stating that he wanted to deal with Jiraiya first (not kill him but roaster him) but Sasuke wanted to fight Itachi so badly that Itachi gave Sasuke the attention he wanted.

 

[VolatileSoul]

that is your view and how you analyzed itachi's attacks but, this view can actually make itachi the strongest in the whole series (unless he is fighting extremely fast shinobi's) and that is completely false. exhausted or not (he had kisame with him), IF your view is entirely correct then all what itachi need to bring jiraiya down is ONE amaterasu (he was capable of using one) but why didn't he do it if it was gona be that easy to beat jiraiya ?? and if you are gona say "well .... he didn't wana kill a strong shinobi of the leaf" then he could have just roasted jiraiya a bit, and put the amaterasu off or lure jiraiya to tsukuyomi but again, why didn't he do it ?? he showed that he doesn't mind hurting other konoha shinobi who were weaker than him, so ......

That makes no sense. His method of escaping worked just as planned. He wanted to escape and he did. Why would he light Jiraiya on fire? There is absolutely no reason why he would.

 

[ixc]

You are saying that Jiraiya is slow, I don't know if you watch anime or not but have you seen how fast jiraiya is in SM against Pain?
Jiraiya problably knows about itachi's abilities and won't just look into his eyes.
You guys act like The uchihas are unbeatable.

Did you see how long it took for Jiraiya to get into SM mode? As if Itachi would allow him to get into SM mode.

 

[Jenga]

Not only Itachi did never want to fight leaf people, he was already exhausted to the point he had to deactivate his Sharingan. Itachi was in a position where he and Kisame were caught off guard by Jiraiya, while he wasn't even aiming at him but was busy with Sasuke. The only choice he had in this situation, was take his ally with him and to escape.

People need to see that Jiraiya is inferior to Itachi in all meanings. There's no way Jiraiya can escape Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, especially not if someone is using both, able to kill you both with one eye contact and one glance, on top being able to use Susanoo with the Totsuka sword and Yata mirror.

I forgot that u write manga..sorry sir.
You know everything about itachi and his jutsu, Itachi is unbeatable.
If Kishi decides to let kabuto revive jiraiya and make him fight itachi and let jiraiya win he does it.
All battles can go both ways.
Just like i though that naruto couldn't beat pain , he did because kishi made it happen.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

This explains it all, Kisame clearly said ''You could have'' meaning that Kisame knew that Itachi could have ****ed him up and Kakashi too wondered why Itachi didn't just kill him.

hehe but why didn't he do what he did to kakashi ?? if he was that superior then he could have just fooled around again without killing him (he had enough chakra for one amaterasu, tsukuyomi), curious about what you think of this lol

 

[Strict]

that is your view and how you analyzed itachi's attacks but, this view can actually make itachi the strongest in the whole series (unless he is fighting extremely fast shinobi's) and that is completely false. exhausted or not (he had kisame with him), IF your view is entirely correct then all what itachi need to bring jiraiya down is ONE amaterasu (he was capable of using one) but why didn't he do it if it was gona be that easy to beat jiraiya ?? and if you are gona say "well .... he didn't wana kill a strong shinobi of the leaf" then he could have just roasted jiraiya a bit, and put the amaterasu off or lure jiraiya to tsukuyomi but again, why didn't he do it ?? he showed that he doesn't mind hurting other konoha shinobi who were weaker than him, so ...... i really don't like this match up because people won't really answer each others questions, instead will go on saying "amtaerasu, tsukuyomi, totsuka blade" this will go no where .....

We can try to analyze Itachis thoughts at that moment, or we can ask ourselves how Jiraiya is going to fight Itachis Mangekyo Sharingan. It's very laughable to say that one who knows the Uchihas power will just close his eyes and fight him, avoid Amaterasu as his speed is supposedly fast enough to escape the Sharingans sight and overwhelm Susanoo. This is nonsense. Itachis powers are clearly superior to Jiraiyas.

And btw what's this for a scenario, where Itachi is going to use Amaterasu on Jiraiya, in order to delete it after, in the situation they were? Itachi just came to Konoha to watch over Sasuke, he didn't want to fight Kakashi, Kurenai and Asuma but had to do. Orochimaru is far more intelligent than Jiraiya and knows about the powers of the Sharingan but yet failed twice. The logic of Itachi haters are weird.

 

[VolatileSoul]

You are saying that Jiraiya is slow, I don't know if you watch anime or not but have you seen how fast jiraiya is in SM against Pain?
Jiraiya problably knows about itachi's abilities and won't just look into his eyes.
You guys act like The uchihas are unbeatable.

No, you act like they are fodder. Why on earth would you think Jiraiya is fast enough to dodge Amaterasu? It took the fastest shinobi alive to dodge it and Jiraiya is nowhere near that speed! He doesn't know about Itachi's abilities and I don't even know where you people get that from. All he knows is Amaterasu and he didn't even see Itachi cast it, and Tsukuyomi and he doesn't know the mechanics behind it.

 

[ixc]

hehe but why didn't he do what he did to kakashi ?? if he was that superior then he could have just fooled around again without killing him (he had enough chakra for one amaterasu, tsukuyomi), curious about what you think of this lol

Because Itachi knew that he had to do something against Kakashi who had Asuma and Kurenai with him, the situation was different, besides like i said Sasuke showed up so he didn't have attention for Jiraiya anymore. Itachi was exhausted after using 2 Tsukuyomi's in a short period of time, he was sick remember?

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

That makes no sense. His method of escaping worked just as planned. He wanted to escape and he did. Why would he light Jiraiya on fire? There is absolutely no reason why he would.

cough ..... cough ..... the mission !! capturing the nine tails (along side with his personal mission, sasuke) !! and don't you dare tell me that he didn't want to do it. he was there and gave his chakra when they were extracting the 1 tail from gara. he also could have done it because jiraiya was in his way wanting to kill him, like kakashi and the others. so if you think that he is superior and getting away was the right thing to do, then that my friend is what doesn't make any sense.

 

[ixc]

I forgot that u write manga..sorry sir.
You know everything about itachi and his jutsu, Itachi is unbeatable.
If Kishi decides to let kabuto revive jiraiya and make him fight itachi and let jiraiya win he does it.
All battles can go both ways.
Just like i though that naruto couldn't beat pain , he did because kishi made it happen.

Kishimoto gave Itachi a godlike apperance because of Itachi's attitude, he's calm and observant and analyzes the situation before acting, Kishimoto gave Itachi incredible quotes of wisdom and it was Itachi who said every jutsu and every strong Shinobi have their weaknesses, why was it that those lines were given to Itachi? Because he's calm and observant and has the tools/weapones and jutsu's to solo.

 

[ixc]

cough ..... cough ..... the mission !! capturing the nine tails (along side with his personal mission, sasuke) !! and don't you dare tell me that he didn't want to do it. he was there and gave his chakra when they were extracting the 1 tail from gara. he also could have done it because jiraiya was in his way wanting to kill him, like kakashi and the others. so if you think that he is superior and getting away was the right thing to do, then that my friend is what doesn't make any sense.

That was not the reason why Itachi came back to Konoha, even Obito said that the real reason behind his return was to let the elders know that he was still alive so that they wouldn't deal with Sasuke, Itachi made good use of the fact that the Nine tails was there.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Because Itachi knew that he had to do something against Kakashi who had Asuma and Kurenai with him, the situation was different, besides like i said Sasuke showed up so he didn't have attention for Jiraiya anymore. Itachi was exhausted after using 2 Tsukuyomi's in a short period of time, he was sick remember?

not giving attention to jiraiya anymore ?? lol dude he had kisame AND had enough chakra to preform ONE amaterasu, tsukuyomi against an opponent who is clearly not there to play poker. so to everyone who thinks amaterasu or tsukuyomi ftw (like i said, it won't be a kill, if both of these jutsu's hit, the outcome is itachi's choice). listen man am tired of these funny excuses, thats why i said they are equal in my FIRST post here. doesn't matter what he was personally there for, he was a member of the akatsuki who didn't show any sign of opposing their plan (capturing the bijuu's) and like i said before he gave his chakra when they captured gara. so he had more reasons to bring jiraiya down (not blowing his cover for example) than escaping, that is if he could bring jiraiya down ...... after considering all of this.

 

[Jenga]

Hahaha, typical counter from a Jiraiya fan, why would Itachi want to roaster Jiraiya a bit? Sasuke showed up and Itachi at first had no intention to deal with Sasuke, stating that he wanted to deal with Jiraiya first (not kill him but roaster him) but Sasuke wanted to fight Itachi so badly that Itachi gave Sasuke the attention he wanted.

Says the person with a sharingan as his avatar and "uchiha Member" as his title.

 

[Jenga]

Kishimoto gave Itachi a godlike apperance because of Itachi's attitude, he's calm and observant and analyzes the situation before acting, Kishimoto gave Itachi incredible quotes of wisdom and it was Itachi who said every jutsu and every strong Shinobi have their weaknesses, why was it that those lines were given to Itachi? Because he's calm and observant and has the tools/weapones and jutsu's to solo.

That means itachi does too, Meaning jiraiya can beat him.