Itachi vs. Hashirama

[KidGamer65]

The clones of hashirama are connected to the real one

They can share information such as what

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So you're saying its more likely Hashirama (Original) sensed it and the clone relayed the information, instead of the clone just doing it himself? Lmao. No.

Either way, Hashirama is stated to be a sensor, in Base and Sage Mode.

 

[Strict]

Didn't Taka sense the enormous Chakra of Kyuubi despite Orochimaru explicitly stated that they are no sensors?

 

[thatgirl]

So you're saying its more likely Hashirama (Original) sensed it and the clone relayed the information, instead of the clone just doing it himself? Lmao. No.

Either way, Hashirama is stated to be a sensor, in Base and Sage Mode.

thats exactly what i am saying

he is stated to be a poor at sensing abilities, he likely tried to get sensing skills but failed and has relied on tobirama on more than one occasion when it comes to sensing tasks [

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[Rufus ShinRa]

SM Hashirama take this low diff.......

 

[KidGamer65]

thats exactly what i am saying

he is stated to be a poor at sensing abilities, he likely tried to get sensing skills but failed and has relied on tobirama on more than one occasion when it comes to sensing tasks [

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Perfect case of twisting what the manga shows to fit your (incorrect) argument. Hashirama felt something, and he asked if Tobirama felt it too. Don't know where you got "He relied on him because he failed to sense" from, but it was clearly not from the manga, and Hashirama did nothing, wasn't even shown in the second scan. Where you got the bold from again, wasn't from the manga.


All the manga stated was that Hashirama isn't as good a sensor as Tobirama. Anything more or less is your interpretation. Not interested.

Didn't Taka sense the enormous Chakra of Kyuubi despite Orochimaru explicitly stated that they are no sensors?

Yes, they did. But Hashirama is actually a sensor so in the end it doesn't matter.

 

[maniaoqan]

Hashirama fought many Uchiha. He fought Madara the strongest Uchiha(except current Sasuke). So he obviously has experience against sharingan genjutsu and many other genjutsu as well. Itachi has no experience against mokuton. While Itachi tries to figure a way to fight Hashirama rapes him in base mode.

 

[Strict]

Hashirama felt something, and he asked if Tobirama felt it too.

Nope. He heard a rustle and said that he thought there was someone. He asked Tobirama whether he felt it but he wasn't kneading Chakra. So Hashirama wasn't either if he was a sensor. If Hashirama is a sensor, he is one of the poorest.

 

[Frikid]

If we do 10 simulations of itachi vs hashirama, i would say hashirama would beat him 8/10 times.

Hashirama can start his fight with a clone (which itachi cannot differ from the real thing)
Hashirama can wood teleport ( a very useful ability indeed)

It is not debatable imo.
The main problem Itachi faces is chakra. Hashirama can just outlast him , so even if you somehow counter anything thrown at you, you still lose because of running out of chakra.

 

[lanakui8]

Base Hashirama stomps.

Tsukuyomi is never hitting someone who has the reactions and speed of fighting EMS Madara with taijutsu/kenjutsu in base without getting genjutsud. Finger genjutsu's best feat is against post timeskip base naruto, and naruto almost broke out of it, it's doing jack squat to a guy who constantly fights ems users and can use genjutsu like bringer of darkness.
Susanoo gets absorbed by mokuryu, or just squashed by mokujin.
amaterasu is fodder compared to the size of what hashirama can output, and it doesn't even matter if hashi gets hit as he can grow entire trees out of his body parts.

And so far that's edo itachi we are talking about, we havent even begun to talk about living itachi who has all of his stamina issues with using the MS.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Lol Hashirama mid diff? Itachi is ruined with the most minimum of difficulties.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nope. He heard a rustle and said that he thought there was someone. He asked Tobirama whether he felt] it but he wasn't kneading Chakra. So Hashirama wasn't either if he was a sensor. If Hashirama is a sensor, he is one of the poorest.

Why would Hashirama be kneading chakra, while Tobirama isn't, when they are both in the same setting and scenario?

 

[ARGUS]

Itachi wins this mid diff,,

--itachi is invincible as stated by BZ (the one who created the shinobii story)

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--He burns all of hashiramas mokutons through amaterasu/katons
--he can drown hashirama through suitons
--hashirama has no counters to finger genjutsu GG
--itachi can mindrape hashi with tsukuyomi
--itachi blocks all of hashiramas attacks with yata and seals him off with totsuka
--on top of that hashirama admitted inferiority to itachi,,,

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--theres nothing more to say really,, as hashirama simply doesnt have the feats nor does he have the hype or portrayal that puts him above itachi

 

[Haizaki]

So much to read. Hashirama beats Itachi.

 

[maniaoqan]

Itachi wins this mid diff,,

--itachi is invincible as stated by BZ (the one who created the shinobii story)

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--He burns all of hashiramas mokutons through amaterasu/katons
--he can drown hashirama through suitons
--hashirama has no counters to finger genjutsu GG
--itachi can mindrape hashi with tsukuyomi
--itachi blocks all of hashiramas attacks with yata and seals him off with totsuka
--on top of that hashirama admitted inferiority to itachi,,,

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--theres nothing more to say really,, as hashirama simply doesnt have the feats nor does he have the hype or portrayal that puts him above itachi

Yata is a shield not damn armor. It only protects one angle, hashirama basically attack from multiple angles with ease as he did against Madara's kyuubi. Itachi gives no challange against Hashirama.
Amaterasu is useless against Mokuton since it can absorb chakra of black flames. And amaterasu doesn't turn wood to ash in instant. It has to burn some good amount of time to took effect. Stop trolling you're no fun.

 

[Ababeel]

I think you are misinterpreting that scan. Any fodder can deduce Naruto has a large volume of chakra if he could give the whole alliance a kyuubi cloak. Its common sense. :|

In addition Naruto's chakra is so great that it can be felt from Konoha even for the none sensors shinobi.
Hashirama was right besides Naruto, so obviously he will be able to feel his enormous chakra.

 

[Demonic.]

Why are you arguing. Hashirama can enter sage mode almost instantly.

OT: Hashirama Low Difficulty.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

i dont know why people still make hashi vs itachi threads. itachi isnt even in the same tier as hashi.

base mid diff
SM low-neg diff

 

[LuckyMan]

In addition Naruto's chakra is so great that it can be felt from Konoha even for the none sensors shinobi.
Hashirama was right besides Naruto, so obviously he will be able to feel his enormous chakra.

Yeah I didn't care to mention that. Anyone who keeps up with Manga should know that. I was never against Hashirama to begin with, never said I was. I just don't believe Hashirama is a sensory ninja in base mode, thats all. He defeats Itachi, even without being a sensor ninja and in base mode.

Just like you mentioned Itachi, is stronger than Orochimaru but weaker than Jiraiya, just as canon said. He is Sannin level and nothing more. Hashirama beats him at 50% strength, actually, even less.