[VS] Itachi Uchiha vs. Tobirama Senju

[Optimistic]

Now before this even happens, Tobirama makes shadow clones, which he always does. These clones can help him navigate through the battlefield with FTG

Will this be a recurring thing for Tobirama debaters? It seems you got Tobirama mixed up with Minato, the only thing Tobirama can do with FTG is tag people we have yet to distinguish him using Kunai's to control the battlefield like Minato can do.

Tobirama's FTG is only useful when he actually manages to touch his opponents.If anything Itachi takes this mid difficulty considering that he can use clones and cast genjutsu on the both of them with minimum effort.

 

[Wave.]

Nah, I have a feeling that Itachi will be the one doing the ''speedblitzing''​

Nah, I have a feeling Itachi doesn't have S/T Ninjutsu nor does he have reflexes that allowed Tobirama to set up Gojō Kibaku Fuda on Obito.

 

[Strict]

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Tobirama counters Tsukuyomi quite easily, he has plenty of experience fighting the Uchiha so he knows he shouldn't look into their eyes.

The Uchiha were famous for their powerful ocular powers since the far past, the question is who doesn't have any intel. Yet, the most who faced the Sharingan failed in front of their illusionary powers. But of course, it is canon in debates that the opponent of the Uchiha knows not to look into his eyes and will thus just avoid the Genjutsu.

 

[Shura]

With 3 edos on his side and FTG to avoid Itachi's attacks, what stops Tobirama from spamming the explosive tag jutsu until Itachi ruins out of stamina from using Susanoo to defend himself?

These Edos are fodders. Itachi will just seal them.​

 

[enditallsin]

tobirama of course...

 

[pateuvasiliu]

..Because he can defend and attack with Totska at the same time which sparks the end for tobirama

Totsuka isn't hitting Tobirama.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

These Edos are fodders. Itachi will just seal them.​

We both know Itachi can't hold Susanoo for long and Totsuka can only be used by his Final Susanoo.

Tobirama will simply keep spamming attacks until he dies.

 

[Penguin]

With 3 edos on his side and FTG to avoid Itachi's attacks, what stops Tobirama from spamming the explosive tag jutsu until Itachi ruins out of stamina from using Susanoo to defend himself?

He will be in a genjutsu by then (tsukuyomi)

Alright, here we go

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Tobirama counters Tsukuyomi quite easily, he has plenty of experience fighting the Uchiha so he knows he shouldn't look into their eyes. This does make him susceptible to Amaterasu, but we know he can teleport anything he touches, so basically he could take Amaterasu and teleport it to Itachi, as he did with the Bijuudama. [

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gg

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Now before this even happens, Tobirama makes shadow clones, which he always does. These clones can help him navigate through the battlefield with FTG and can help him disrupt his chakra flow in case he gets caught in genjutsu, yet again since he has experience with fighting the Uchiha, this something he'll very likely do.

He counters Katon with Suiton, not debatable.

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Now, assuming Itachi isn't dead yet, and he uses Susano'o...

Tobirama can use his 3 edo's and shadow clones to surround Itachi, since the Yata mirror isn't 360 degrees, he can't defend himself from all directions. Yet again, Tobirama has experience with fighting Susano'o as we know he participated in fighting Madara, since Danzo almost managed to penetrate Sasuke's Susano'o weak spot, Tobirama can use

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jutsu to tear Itachi's Susano'o apart. We all know how much trouble Sasuke had with sustaining his Susano'o, so for Itachi to perform Complete Susano'o takes quite a toll on his body, especially when attacked.

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While outside of Susano'o, Itachi doesn't have many counters to Suiton, since Katon is out of the question, and Itachi has only shown one Suiton technique so far which required a water source. Suiton's general destructive power will surely pressure Itachi, and use of MS techniques will render him fatigued rather quickly.

I'd say Tobirama takes this mid-high diff...

1. There have only been two MS users back in the day. Madara and Izuna. None of them have shown eye prowess via Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. Point is moot, although Tobirama would have had to been good at releasing some genjutsu.

2. Tobirama didn't make shadow clones as he was about to fight Sasuke, Orochimaru and company.

3. Izuna has shown no use of Susano'o, only Madara has. Neither of them were equipped with Yata or Totsuka.

4. Eh maybe.

Thank god. This is why I like you. You're not like a certain someone. If there is anyone who can make me like Tobirama again, it's you.​

:ls: :flowers

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Tobirama's fought stronger genjutsu Uchiha in his day, Itachi is just a cheap rip-off compared to them.

 

[Shura]

He will be in a genjutsu by then (tsukuyomi)



1. There have only been two MS users back in the day. Madara and Izuna. None of them have shown eye prowess via Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. Point is moot, although Tobirama would have had to been good at releasing some genjutsu.

2. Tobirama didn't make shadow clones as he was about to fight Sasuke, Orochimaru and company.

3. Izuna has shown no use of Susano'o, only Madara has. Neither of them were equipped with Yata or Totsuka.

4. Eh maybe.



:ls: :flowers

A true Tobirama fan even admits that Itachi beats Tobirama. I don't know how anyone can dislike you, Penguin2640. xd​

 

[Tartarus]

Tobirama's fought stronger genjutsu Uchiha in his day, Itachi is just a cheap rip-off compared to them.

who? featless Izuna?

 

[Strict]

Tobirama's fought stronger genjutsu Uchiha in his day.

There is no stronger known Uchiha Genjutsu than Tsukuyomi, apart from Kotoamatsukami. Even Madara's Genjutsu he used against A pales in comparison with Tsukuyomi.

In canon, he doesn't have intel on a Genjutsu which one shots you in an instant if you look into the Sharingan on time.

 

[Optimistic]

Tobirama's fought stronger genjutsu Uchiha in his day, Itachi is just a cheap rip-off compared to them.

Name these badass Uchiha who have better genjutsu than Itachi.

 

[KidGamer65]

Tobirama's fought stronger genjutsu Uchiha in his day, Itachi is just a cheap rip-off compared to them.

Only in fanfiction. Surely not in this manga.

 

[Zexion~]

Totsuka isn't hitting Tobirama.

Lol and why is that all he can teleport to is things that he has touched, which is not far enough for him to avoid a swipe of totska

 

[Penguin]

A true Tobirama fan even admits that Itachi beats Tobirama. I don't know how anyone can dislike you, Penguin2640. xd​

I guess it is my fanboyism over Tobirama.

I still think Tobirama can win if he has intel!

Shisui is said to be the genjutsu master of the Uchiha, and Itachi is most likely the 2nd. Please re read the manga.

 

[Optimistic]

Still waiting for those Uchiha's that have better genjutsu than Itachi numbers.

 

[Shura]

We both know Itachi can't hold Susanoo for long and Totsuka can only be used by his Final Susanoo.

Tobirama will simply keep spamming attacks until he dies.

Itachi is ''healthy'' here. And what.. Itachi will just let Tobirama spam attacks on him? :|​

 

[Penguin]

Itachi is ''healthy'' here. And what.. Itachi will just let Tobirama spam attacks on him? :|​

Apparently. I am all for it. :nindaime:

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Still waiting for those Uchiha's that have better genjutsu than Itachi numbers.

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