Itachi Uchiha | Capacity | Truth | Deity

[iNotorious]

Stopped reading right here. The rest of this post is clearly nonsense based solely on this. Itachi wasn't born sick, nor was he born with 3-MS-jutsu = blindness.

Anybody who uses deathbed itachi as a reference point is as much a troll as any other trolls. How bout you go make a thread where itachi isn't coughing up blood by just walking around.

He wasn't but after he got sick, well he got a limit

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Stopped reading right here. The rest of this post is clearly nonsense based solely on this. Itachi wasn't born sick, nor was he born with 3-MS-jutsu = blindness.

Anybody who uses deathbed itachi as a reference point is as much a troll as any other trolls. How bout you go make a thread where itachi isn't coughing up blood by just walking around.

Keep reading. Skip to Part 2, actually.

I ask that you clarify your statement. Are you saying his sickness didn't affect him? I'm not sure I understand.

BTW, Itachi is my favorite character in anime/manga, ever. Just in case you thought I'm a hater or something.

 

[Akasuna]

I agree with most everything except your saying Itachi is a suitable representation of Susano'o in means other than similarities in weapons; as related in the Kojiki, Susano'o is a hot-tempered, restless deity that destroys Amaterasu's rice fields and desecrates two of her servants. Aside from that, nice thread.

 

[Vega]

If you are not his sibling you lose to tsukoyami
If you are not top 10 fastest shinobi you lose to amaterasu

Skimmed some of the things you wrote, short on time, so just wanted to mention two things regarding @bold
VIZ scan clears up the first point:

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"Only someone with kekkei genkai and a sharingan can stop me!"
Meaning an Uchiha with high Ocular Powers should be capable, not just Sasuke; though he was the perfect person for it. Kakashi only mentions Sasuke as he was the other known Uchiha at the time, and the fact to show Sasuke is destined to face Itachi as the most perfect candidate against a Mangekyō Sharingan user.
Speed isn't the only counter to Amaterasu. (Preta, Kamui, etc.)

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@Magatsu Izanagi
Phenomenal thread Magatsu; a non-biased view point on Itachi with evidence to support it. The caliber of the content is clearly exceptional. I really liked how you didn't over-rate or under-rate Itachi, but rather showed how his limitations stunted his potential.
Great work my friend xd
Thanks for the shout-out as well

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Skimmed some of the things you wrote, short on time, so just wanted to mention two things regarding @bold
VIZ scan clears up the first point:

Spoiler

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"Only someone with kekkei genkai and a sharingan can stop me!"
Meaning an Uchiha with high Ocular Powers should be capable, not just Sasuke; though he was the perfect person for it. Kakashi only mentions Sasuke as he was the other known Uchiha at the time, and the fact to show Sasuke is destined to face Itachi as the most perfect candidate against a Mangekyō Sharingan user.
Speed isn't the only counter to Amaterasu. (Preta, Kamui, etc.)

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@Magatsu Izanagi
Phenomenal thread Magatsu; a non-biased view point on Itachi with evidence to support it. The caliber of the content is clearly exceptional. I really liked how you didn't over-rate or under-rate Itachi, but rather showed how his limitations stunted his potential.
Great work my friend xd
Thanks for the shout-out as well

Ah, thanks Vega

We should do a collab on a theory together someday!

 

[Chie]

He wasn't but after he got sick, well he got a limit

Keep reading. Skip to Part 2, actually.

I ask that you clarify your statement. Are you saying his sickness didn't affect him? I'm not sure I understand.

BTW, Itachi is my favorite character in anime/manga, ever. Just in case you thought I'm a hater or something.

I think everyone acknowledges that anyone with a sickness has a limit. But most often times in vs fights, people don't say, "He'll use one ms tech and then drop dead after a few minutes". People tend not to use the Itachi who was coughing up blood to start off a fight. He can use several MS techs repeatedly, though it takes a great toll on him, as it would on any MS user, sickness or not.

Edit: Still love the thread though. You brought up great points and it was good to not read a troll thread about him for once. U_U

 

[Sir Blades]

I will say this thread is perfection. Everything was spot on and with no under or over hype. Deals with the attributes of a controversial character.
Good job MI.
This was certainly a thread to wait for.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Stopped reading right here. The rest of this post is clearly nonsense based solely on this. Itachi wasn't born sick, nor was he born with 3-MS-jutsu = blindness. Why not use any other itachi who appeared remotely healthier? Because you won't have the 'he can't even walk without dying' argument to fallback on.

Anybody who uses deathbed itachi as a reference point is as much a troll as any other trolls. How bout you go make a thread where itachi isn't coughing up blood by just walking around.

Itachi wasn't born sick, no.

He was not born with MS either.

However, mastery of the MS degraded his eyes and body. The more powerful his MS became, the more blind and sicker he became. It's a double-edged sword, an Itachi with perfect health and perfect MS mastery cannot exist.

Can you show us that Itachi? Hell, he used three MS jutsus in pt.1 and had to rest. The only other Itachi you could show us is from when he was 13, and the only MS jutsu we know he mastered back then was Tsukiyomi.

I agree with most everything except your saying Itachi is a suitable representation of Susano'o in means other than similarities in weapons; as related in the Kojiki, Susano'o is a hot-tempered, restless deity that destroys Amaterasu's rice fields and desecrates two of her servants. Aside from that, nice thread.

Agreed.

Points to his similarity to Susanoo are very loose at best. Itachi just has a jutsu based on Susanoo.

 

[mafo]

people have too much time on their hand SMH

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Thanks for showing light to blind itachi wankers and trolls. Rep+

 

[The almighty itachi]

That is good thread I give you a +rep

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Some seem to think that Itachi was crazy to massacre his clan.

Itachi had two choices

no he didnt.
and his clan massacre was just one evil. itachi fans love to gloss over the other crimes.

From these two choices, he took the lesser of two evils. He burdened himself with killing his clan to avoid an exponential amount more of deaths.

no he didnt. both options are as evil as each other.
he burdened himself with doing nothing at all to stop or kill danzo, orochimaru, sasuke, and obito to ensure an exponential amount of more death and destruction and war. he basically let akatsuki get bijuus

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

no he didnt.
and his clan massacre was just one evil. itachi fans love to gloss over the other crimes.




no he didnt. both options are as evil as each other.
he burdened himself with doing nothing at all to stop or kill danzo, orochimaru, sasuke, and obito to ensure an exponential amount of more death and destruction and war. he basically let akatsuki get bijuus

You cut out the part where I said its possible that he had more choices

And I agree, there are other things. The point is, he wasn't flawless or perfect. But thank you for your insight.

I will say this thread is perfection. Everything was spot on and with no under or over hype. Deals with the attributes of a controversial character.
Good job MI.
This was certainly a thread to wait for.

Thank you for your praise. I'm glad it was able to turn out this well

 

[Hàdes1]

Great thread 5/5

 

[blackbullet]

Great thread This is actually one of the best if not the best explanation I have ever read here. Unbiased and very good explanation.

In fact your username was one of the few I remember when I stalked Narutobase before being a member :snick: Before you had a avatar with a guy in a formal like military outfit and a golden eye i think. He looked like Lelouch. Can you tell me what character he is ?

 

[Desiigner]

Wow, what a nice thread bro.
Awesome work!
Oh, and where did you get that smexy ass gif from?

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Wow, what a nice thread bro.
Awesome work!
Oh, and where did you get that smexy ass gif from?

Thanks man!

And ah idk, I think I got it from some badass member's sig or something...

 

[Zen Ramanujan]

'Nagato can't be 1-shotted by Itachi.' Well, it is sort of canonical that this already happened.​

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[Magatsu Izanagi]

'Nagato can't be 1-shotted by Itachi.' Well, it is sort of canonical that this already happened.​

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I suppose it was, but I explained that I think there's no way an alive, sick Itachi would be able to put Nagato in a situation to pull that off like he did in that fight.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

'Nagato can't be 1-shotted by Itachi.' Well, it is sort of canonical that this already happened.​

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"One-shotted" specifically means that the first attack was 100% successful, it also has the implications of a one-on-one confrontation with no clear advantages for either side.

Itachi's case? His first attack was literally against a defenseless Nagato, he was not only crippled but he was still controlled by Edo Tensei so he couldn't act towards another Edo Tensei, like how Trollkage wanted to attack Muu but could not.

Was Itachi's advantage and initial attack successful? No, it was not. Nagato blasted Itachi, Naruto, and Bee away with Shinra Tensei and then proceeded to stomp Naruto and Bee while Itachi hid. Then, Itachi ambushed Nagato but he was still able to use Chibaku Tensei to which Itachi needed Naruto's and Bee's help, and then ambushed Nagato again; and Kabuto said that Nagato was still crippled and that's why he couldn't avoid Totsuka.