Itachi the traitor and betrayer!!

[Mante]

Well..umm.. I believe its a bad thing Itachi did. He did it because Danzo said it, right? I mean 3rd and others never decided what to do about uchiha, but later, privately, Danzo said to Itachi that others agreed to kill the whole clan . Why did Itachi trust him, the one who stole Shisui's eye?
Ofc, I might be wrong

 

[poundz29]

Itachi gave his life to the shinobi code. You don't join the military because it's a family tradition, you join because it is your service unto the community, and he was willing to give up his will for that. He was even given a choice to allow someone other than himself take his families life so he wouldn't feel as guilty even though that would result in a civil war. Although Itachi is now a pariah and outcast among his community, he saved countless lives. I might go so far as to say that itachi and haku are some of the only characters in the series with the maturity to grasp the reality of what it is to be a shinobi (even at such a young age). It is by no means "right" what itachi did, nor do I imagine it would make itachi sleep well at night knowing there was something he could have done to prevent this from happening. I imagine he thought through every single scenario in his head about the alternatives he could have taken afterwards in order to save his clan and his village. However, I think Itachi knows that deep down, his clan would have died if they decided to throw a coup, also sasuke's innocence and development would be hindered, and the brother he protected so dearly would be thrust into a war he would not be ready for. Now (although it seems sasuke is about to go insane and head down a life of darkness) Itachi has faith in Naruto (the will of fire incarnate) which really shows itachis commitment and trust within his community and its inhabitants, they arent a "bunch of strangers"

 

[ChiefHermit]

family is most important thing

that's just an opinion, which is clearly different for itachi
trololol

 

[NarutoKakashi]

Itachi really loved his little brother that's why his parents were proud of him. For loving his brother for any other Uchiha.

 

[ThisOneDude]

I agree, dont listen to the guys saying ur a troll or saying "its not even worth my time" u have some good points

 

[Kingace003]

i see what u mean but they would have been done in either way itachi did this to avoid another war so ya itachi did what was right even thought it was cold hearted. :shrug:

 

[synkross]

**** danzo:flaw:

**** danzo:flaw:

funny how ppl seem to understand itachi's position and his sacrifice but fail to do so when it comes to danzo......Ch 590 has proved danzo right...there was no other way...3rd was wrong on this matter...talking wouldn't have achieved anything(except for when its naruto's talk-no-jutsu...which is frobidden for anyone else lolz )....we saw that even before dying fugaku wasn't planning on changing and was true to his ideals..so what makes you think a little chat with the 3rd would've ended all that hate..moreover we know all uchihas are hardheaded xd don't really give a f**k about logic(except for itachi and shisui ofc)
it has also proved madara right when he thought that uchihas will be considered as 2nd class citizens if there was truce(Look what happened)
generations of haterd can not end due just one kind person....it requires effort from every individual.....
(happiness and forgiveness can't be bought with just kind words)~Nagato
All those ppl hating on danzo...uchihas were about to attack ,what other choice does he had..he is a village elder who had to put villages saftey 1st and thats what he did...and hes got my respect :ice:

 

[Chojuro Sama Kun]

Who made this thread? I will freakin come for you and rip your head off. Either way, you're just jealous because he's a hero and your not.

 

[yeahhboi]

Who made this thread? I will freakin come for you and rip your head off. Either way, you're just jealous because he's a hero and your not.

itachi is no hero, he is a gutless betrayer

 

[JKakano]

wow u all are such a baby and itachi and minato are hero in different ways so shut up! minato and itachi fan are sssoooo f**king jealous!!! just accept both of them are hero!!

 

[Thewargoeson]

Although what happened on the night of the uchiha massacre was terrible, everyone involved (except tobi) was somewhat justified.
Itachi: I think iots obvious tht itachi didnt want to kill his clan and his family. He shows remorse and tears before he strikes his parents down. But think of the situation; Itachi had already seen 1 war, he saw many innocent ninja's fall. So itachi;s options were either exterminate his clan, or help them fight the leaf village and watch another war unfold only to see more innocent life's be lost. Each one is a unbelievably hard choice and as we saw in the last chapter itachi was having trouble deciding what to do. does he betray his family, or his home land. If i had to guess i'd say he thot of them as equally terrible things. until danzo brings up sasuke. Once itachi realizes he'd also have to kill his beloved brother, betraying his clan became not as bad as betraying the village. So think of it this way: kill uchiha(Without sasuke living)=betraying village. Kill uchiha (with sasuke sasuke living)<betraying the leaf. in short it became worse to destroy the leaf village so itachi chose the logical choice which is the only way he cud deal with what he did psychologically.
Danzo: theres alot of hate on danzo for what he did, manipulated itachi, stopped shisui from stopping the coup. But he was justified in all those things. First he stopped shisui probably bcuz he wasnt sure whether or not shishu wud tell them to stop the coup, or continue on with it. so to stop him he took his eye. Now yes there was probably some personal greed behind it, like he wanted shisui's eye for kotoamatsukami but it was also to protect the village.
With itachi; Danzo proposed tht him, the elders, and some anbu shud destroy the uchiha. But the same way itachi did, danzo weighed his options logically. Fight the uchiha himself and probably lose countless anbu, or have 1 man do it who he knew cud complete it. All danzo ever does is think logically about whats best for his village and haveing itachi do it was best for the village. But he knew itachi wudnt just kill his family on the spot, so danzo decided to add some leverage, sweeten the crap a little. He said he wud spare sasuke's life. And as i stated before tht wud make itachi see tht destroying the uchiha is the more logical choice. Danzo only wanted to protect his village, and to do so he needed itachi to complete the deed

 

[james brown]

itachi is no hero, he is a gutless betrayer

plus rep.

 

[Uchihahahaha]

I won't say whether I think he is a hero or not, but it is obvious that in the Narutoverse he is portrayed as a hero. Naruto is not reality, so Kishimoto must think he is a hero. A hero in Naruto might not be considered a hero in reality. So then you must just disagree with Kishimoto, which is ok. This is just like how some people think Sasuke's revenge is good, and others don't.

But according to the manga (not reality): It does not seem like any killing could have been avoided because even when Itachi was right there in front of his father, his father still said that they think differently, which hints that his father (the leader) was not going to change.

But I'm just saying that it seems like in the Narutoverse that Itachi is portrayed as a humble hero. If someone does not think he is a hero, then I guess they disagree with Kishimoto. It's ok if you have a different view though.

It is obvious to see that Itachi is one of the more loyal, caring, loving characters. And even if he didn't always do things the best way, he still had good intentions for the village. And if you think that he did not care about his clan, well if he did not do what he did, then according to Danzo, Sasuke and Itachi would have died along with the clan. So it's understandable if someone disagrees with some of his actions, but it is shown that he wanted to protect Konoha, his brother, and have his brother bring back honor to his clan and restore it. So according to the manga, Danzo might have tricked Itachi into thinking that talking with the clan would not work. Danzo might have killed Itachi and Sasuke, I don't know. It was like Itachi said to Danzo in the one page, "Are you threatening?" And again, if you compare Naruto to reality, then very few characters are heroes, if any at all.

 

[Unsatisfied Sin]

Itachi did one of the most noble things, self sacrifice. For that I respect his character. Yes he killed his clan, but you are refusing to look at the bigger picture.

 

[true enigma]

He was 13 and naive, given that the choice he was presented with was everybody dies with war or kill the clan but sasuke lives. He actually took the obvious better looking choice.What wud u have done at 13? Buckle and cry?

 

[TheBlackDevil]

I guess you're entitled to your own opinion; however, would you choose to save the good of the few or the good of the many? Itachi was a peaceful person - he didn't want to kill his own clan but he also didn't want the entire village to suffer for his clan's actions. I'd say what he did was pretty honorable. Besides, you saw how torn up he was over having to kill his family.

 

[Saikou Ninja]

every-time i read manga 590, i keep wondering, itachi father was awesome, he told his son he was proud even as he was about to be done it by him, and that little prick still plunged a sword through his dad and mom chest, who the **** does that? how do you chose someone else over your own clan?

idc wat anyone wants to say, sasuke is completely justified is seeking revenge and i will be very disappointed if he dont at least kill the other 2 elders

no matter what you want to say about the uchiha, both clans were corrupt, senju was corrupt, and uchiha was corrupt, and if some people place you in a corner of the village and isolate you from society you have all the rights to want to revolt

fuk itachi, i used to like him but after manga 590 i hate his guts

I agree 100%, If you would've put naruto in itachi shoes naruto woul never kill his family let alone friends, yet at the same time he would'v found a way to prevent the war. Itachi failed because he didn't even try to find an alternative path, He choose the two choices they gave him and chose the wrong path just to saave his brother who in the process got screwed up and is now attacking the very village his brother sided with. If sasuke dies going against konoha it will be the biggest troll towards itachi and everything he did.

 

[yeahhboi]

I agree 100%, If you would've put naruto in itachi shoes naruto woul never kill his family let alone friends, yet at the same time he would'v found a way to prevent the war. Itachi failed because he didn't even try to find an alternative path, He choose the two choices they gave him and chose the wrong path just to saave his brother who in the process got screwed up and is now attacking the very village his brother sided with. If sasuke dies going against konoha it will be the biggest troll towards itachi and everything he did.

agree

 

[Netsui]

itachi is no hero, he is a gutless betrayer

We are all entitled to our opinion. It's just that Danzo used Itachi's weakness against him. His weakness was Sasuke, and Danzo used that. People say that Itachi killed them for the country, but he didn't. He did it for Sasuke, he was thinking about Sasuke when he accepted the mission.

Itachi doesn't like to fight, yet he had to do it anyway. He cried when he did it, so he didn't feel good about it. Pretend that being a ninja is like the military. They fight for their country, so there are some people who put their country over family/personal things. Take Kakashi's Father for example. He saved his friends even if it meant ruining the mission. He was hated because of it, because the country was supposed to come first. But we are all entitled to our opinion, so I won't say anything rude, because everybody thinks differently.

If Itachi didn't do it, the clan would have died anyway, along with Sasuke. Itachi didn't know what to do, so he had no choice really. When Danzo used Sasuke against him, what did you expect him to do?

That is my opinion, at least. I think he's a hero because it takes guts just to kill family, especially if you hate fighting. Not to mention, his actions prevented other villages from invading the Leaf, because that would have happened if the coup happened.

 

[Saikou Ninja]

He was 13 and naive, given that the choice he was presented with was everybody dies with war or kill the clan but sasuke lives. He actually took the obvious better looking choice.What wud u have done at 13? Buckle and cry?

When put into the perspective it should be clear, He chose to save one child and let the other hundreds in his clan get slaughterd like pigs...