Itachi stopped a world war

[ChocolateVanilla]

Never called him crazy or evil. I just can't agree with what he did and when I say that I'm talking about the women children and elderly. It's completely unacceptable to say that shit is for the great or good.

Children: All grow up to be Mini-Sasuke's
Women: Can produce Mini Sasuke's
But I agree about the elderly, he should have let them live.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Children: All grow up to be Mini-Sasuke's
Women: Can produce Mini Sasuke's
But I agree about the elderly, he should have let them live.

You don't know that. Sasuke is the way he is because of Itachi words before he left the village. He may have hated Itachi but he listened to every word and used it to get stronger. But if you agree with the slaughtering of women and children just because they MIGHT give birth to a soul filled with hate then that's your opinion which you are entitled too of course

 

[GhostProject]

I don't think Itachi was 'evil' necessarily, but he did not handle it like a good guy either. He was definitely not mature enough yet in his life to handle the decisions and consequences that lied before him.

He did the best he could, alright. But he was smart, would have influence among the Uchiha, understood the current situation of the Leaf. He could have, and should have found another way. Any other way. You can't undo the consequences of an entire genocide. Hiruzen would have worked with him to fix it.

I don't think he handled it correctly, at all, but he was too young to bear the burden. Danzo had evil intentions for power and control, and Itachi played into them.

 

[Migster257]

The word you're looking for is "delayed" and "civil".

 

[HiddenSound]

I don't think Itachi was 'evil' necessarily, but he did not handle it like a good guy either. He was definitely not mature enough yet in his life to handle the decisions and consequences that lied before him.

He did the best he could, alright. But he was smart, would have influence among the Uchiha, understood the current situation of the Leaf. He could have, and should have found another way. Any other way. You can't undo the consequences of an entire genocide. Hiruzen would have worked with him to fix it.

I don't think he handled it correctly, at all, but he was too young to bear the burden. Danzo had evil intentions for power and control, and Itachi played into them.

I disagree entirely.
Being a "good guy" is irrelevant to a true shinobi. What matters most is protecting the village. It is not that he wasn't mature enough, he most certainly was, that's why he did that. It's that he knew that would stop this war absolutely.
His intelligence is also not a problem. It's not that he wasn't smart enough, he was an unparalleled genius, it's that nobody was on his level. All through his life, he never had friends except Shisui. An anti-social near pariah was going to start influencing the Uchiha at that time? I doubt it.

The problem is no one knew when the Uchiha would strike. It could have been the next night for all they know. And every other option had a big flaw in it. With Shisui's plan, what if someone found out? The clan would enraged. And if it did go off without a hitch, what next? Would everyone just give up because Fugaku says so? Or would a select few keep going regardless of what Fugaku says?
Would you be willing to risk the lives of tens of thousands of innocent people for the sake of one hundred innocent and not so innocent people? I wouldn't.

The word you're looking for is "delayed" and "civil".

Explain yourself please.
If Itachi delayed a civil war, that means a civil war already happened. I don't know if you know, but that never happened.
He stopped a world war, and a civil one along with it.

 

[Trúth]

Not sure how people can even debate this. He was a hero plain and simple.

 

[Char Aznable]

Danzo gave the order, but it was Itachi who swung the sword. So in a sense, Danzo stopped a world war. Itachi was used like a tool.

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[HiddenSound]

Danzo gave the order, but it was Itachi who swung the sword. So in a sense, Danzo stopped a world war. Itachi was used like a tool.

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I say they both stopped it.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

you cant say that about someone who essentially helped start a world war by giving bijuus to akatsuk and did nothing to stop them.

Anyone who thinks this guy is evil or crazy, is stupid. What's so insane about stopping a world war and the destruction of Konoha? What is so evil about selflessly putting the needs of the many before the needs of the few? It really astounds me how people can't understand this.

whats so insane about it is he goes right behind his own back and betrays everything he did before.
he selflessly put the needs of the many before the needs of the few, but onyl when it was conveniant and safe to do so.
he killed his family to stop konoha being damaged even more.

but heres the problem. he forgets his own logic and reasoning.
he had an opportunity to kill orochimaru and didnt take it.
he had an opportunity to expose danzo for the corrupt shit that he is and didnt take it.
so thats two guys, AS BAD OR WORSE THAN HIS FATHER that itachi just...lets go and does nothing to stop. meaning thousands of innocents now have ot pay for itachis indecision and weakness.
if hes truly all about stopping wars before they happen and all about killing psychos for the good of the many civilians then theres no reason to do this. no reason to endanger people because he doesnt feel like killing danzo.

itachi has betrayed everything konoha supposedly stood for, and killed an entire clan to stop.
hes betrayed everything about who he supposedly is and supposed to be.
he doesnt want to kill for the greater good anymore. he doesnt want to kill terrible people to protect the good ones.
in fact hes apathetic about all of it and couldnt care less if danzo butchers hundreds of people or if he lets orochimaru kill a few thousand while he sits on his hands and does nothing.

even worse he helps the bad guys along. he helped akatsuki rather than do anything to stop or slow them down, and killed jins for them or at least allowed them to be killed whne he could easily totsuka stab kisame and rescue a few of them. that would be helpful. instead the only jin still outside of akatsukis grasp are only outside their grasp because of no effort from itachi. but from their own efforts and abilities.
he did NOTHING to actually hinder or stop nagato.
which resulted in war.

as for why i hate him, the big thing is the torturing and murdering of innocents and his own brother, and then being called a hero for it. and make no mistake, itachi would kill innocents to achieve his goals. he was ready to let sauske kill his best friend to unlock mangekeyo.
he was ready to let the jins DIE for his goal of "keeping his cover". even though the spy job should be null and void once the first bijuu is taken.

Of course it did. No one ever said that stopping the Uchiha coup would bring about world peace.

no one ever said killing danzo would either but its a fukin start since hes clearly a threat. same with orochimaru.

Yes, however, in the process of stopping a Civil War in Konoha, he saved the only two people whom would be able to stop the World War and consequently saved the entire world.

not this again.
plenty of characters could have "stopped a civil war" in their own village, we just never heard much about it.
if your talking about sasuke and naruto, do you know how many times thye could have died over the years? a shit ton.
if your going that far back in time, how about this
"kaguya saved the world from herself because she gave birth to her sons who would give birth to their descendents sasuke and naruto who will defeat her so shes really the hero all along"

The other villages had a very real chance of swooping in and destroying the remains of Konoha. That's what worried Hiruzen.

so why didnt they when kyuubi and obito rampaged? it was such a world famous event yet no other village capitalised. because you cant judge the worst of people and call them bloodthirsty warmongers with no evidence.

By doing the best thing in that situation. Murdering his family so their honor would survive. Taking the burden of a murderer and a traitor. No one ever thought a thing about the guilty Uchiha.

he did the worst thing in that situation.
murdering konohas strongest clan and dooming himself to being hated which robs konoha of HEAPS of military power.
and guilty is a matter of perspective.
itachi shows he is extremely arrogant and controlling by doing that. he has no right to decide what the uchiha's honor is. they should go down in history how they want to go down. not what itachi wants everyone to think. he does not represent the clan.

Children: All grow up to be Mini-Sasuke's
Women: Can produce Mini Sasuke's

you have no proof of that. killing someone because you suspect them of POSSIBLY becoming emo hateful douches is not a good reason

e did the best he could, alright.

no he didnt.for someone with "hokage level wisdom" he was just another soldier given manipulative terrible orders.

. So in a sense, Danzo stopped a world war.

which was never going to happen as he had a plan to stop having any war at all. and other nations wont care even if uchihas win.

. It's not that he wasn't smart enough, he was an unparalleled genius, i

yes it is and no he isnt.
itachi is one of the dumbest charatcers in the series. nothing he ever did made any sense

Would you be willing to risk the lives of tens of thousands of innocent people for the sake of one hundred innocent and not so innocent people? I wouldn't.

no but itachi did when he helped akatsuki get nukes for the sake of konoha being left alone.
itachi doomed millions to destruction to save a few thousand.

What matters most is protecting the village.

clearly not to itachi given he murdered the village's most powerful ally to give his nuclear weapon to evil terrorists

 

[Migster257]

I disagree entirely.
Being a "good guy" is irrelevant to a true shinobi. What matters most is protecting the village. It is not that he wasn't mature enough, he most certainly was, that's why he did that. It's that he knew that would stop this war absolutely.
His intelligence is also not a problem. It's not that he wasn't smart enough, he was an unparalleled genius, it's that nobody was on his level. All through his life, he never had friends except Shisui. An anti-social near pariah was going to start influencing the Uchiha at that time? I doubt it.

The problem is no one knew when the Uchiha would strike. It could have been the next night for all they know. And every other option had a big flaw in it. With Shisui's plan, what if someone found out? The clan would enraged. And if it did go off without a hitch, what next? Would everyone just give up because Fugaku says so? Or would a select few keep going regardless of what Fugaku says?
Would you be willing to risk the lives of tens of thousands of innocent people for the sake of one hundred innocent and not so innocent people? I wouldn't.

Explain yourself please.
If Itachi delayed a civil war, that means a civil war already happened. I don't know if you know, but that never happened.
He stopped a world war, and a civil one along with it.

He stopped a civil war, but failed in stopping a world war. I don't know about you, but there's been a world war for the past hundred chapters.

 

[enditallsin]

He stopped a world war? Okaaay...So tell me what's currently going on than.

 

[Gintõki1]

Itachi is a hero!

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

The end dont justify the mean

P.S. He's not evil .

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Itachi is a hero!

for torturing and murdering innocent people! oh the joy of torturing and murdering innocent people. truly he needs a medal for that

P.S. He's not evil .

so "not evil" people torture two innocent human beings brutally for several hours?

 

[Phonas]

Aren't you an Itachi hater, HiddenSound?

 

[HiddenSound]

He stopped a civil war, but failed in stopping a world war. I don't know about you, but there's been a world war for the past hundred chapters.

. . . Do you think that if you stop a world war, world peace would follow?

He stopped a world war? Okaaay...So tell me what's currently going on than.

A different world war :|

Aren't you an Itachi hater, HiddenSound?

Never ever said that.

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

so "not evil" people torture two innocent human beings brutally for several hours?

Can you refresh my memory of those two people

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Can you refresh my memory of those two people

sasuke and kakashi

 

[Fireplay]

Actually Itachi is a murderer. Some kid in real life actually committed suicide because Itachi died.

so "not evil" people torture two innocent human beings brutally for several hours?

sasuke and kakashi

"Innocent" people...

 

[silmarill]

sasuke and kakashi

torture? it was just a phantom experience to learn them they could not beat him