Itachi > sasuke

[Sasuke1025]

1) When Sasuke had only MS, and he spammed it, he also ran out of stamina. And when Itachi died against Sasuke he was ill. But ok, lets say Sasuke has more stamina, but I dont know why people think that Itachi has low chakra level and Sasuke has more. Where does the manga state it? (Maybe it really does but I forgot it ,then sorry)
2)True
3)Compared to Itachi he is inferior in intelligence, and in a fight between them thats what matters
4)And what? (Itachi-crows)
5)Itachi also knows about Sasuke's abilities
6)How do you know that? (Maybe its stated in the manga, then sorry I forgot it, pls link it)
7)Itachi has yata and he also has susanoo
8) Their fire jutsus are the same, and Sasuke basically has more jutsus because he uses the variants of chidory, or at least jutsus derived from chidori and we have seen less of Itachi than Sasuke.
9)And?
10) I still say tsukoyomi
11) Ok
12)Itachi also has amaterasu so sasuke's ability to control its shape wont make much difference imo, and Itachi still has yata

Wow finally someone tht actually provide proof thank you
1.well seing how he ran away from j-man after using 2 ms tech and admitting to Kakashi the reason he did run away cuz he was low on chakra and look it sasuke vs Danzo bro sasuke can keep it up way longer
2.ok
3.i kno Itachi is smarter thts wat I said but serieslu IMHO their gap of intelligent is not tht big
4.ya but his crow isn't big enough to carry him away or save him from falling
5.lol how would he know about his ability when even WE dont know the full extend of his EMS?
6.I would love 2 but idk how I'm kinda new :/ but Itachi said it while hes explaining about it to sasuke during their battle sry 4 not having a link
7.yes I am well aware of that but once again it'll cost him great pain and it'll use up 2 much chakra
8.well sasuke fire release is stronger Cuz he made tht dragon shaped fire ball n it's a b rank and itachis best is a regular fire ball which is a c rank n ya basically he has chidori
9.and?! Lol this thing is dangerouse dude is he didn't use all tht time explaining Itachi how Kirin work he wouldn't be able 2 use susano'O since its 2 fast
10.well I guess it's a matter of oppinion but IMO Itachi wouldn't be tht surprise if he let sasuke broke out of it plus y didn't he use any genjutsu after sasuke did tht? Maybe cuz tsukoyomi is hi strongest genjutsu and he broke out of it so there's no point to have a genjutsu battle
11.ok
12.true but I'm pretty sure controlling it would make a different since he can cast less of them since there's more of them in the battle field to control which would take less chakra 2 do n yata mirror is defence sasuke can just make him run out of chakra

 

[Scooby Doo]

Wow finally someone tht actually provide proof thank you
1.well seing how he ran away from j-man after using 2 ms tech and admitting to Kakashi the reason he did run away cuz he was low on chakra and look it sasuke vs Danzo bro sasuke can keep it up way longer
2.ok
3.i kno Itachi is smarter thts wat I said but serieslu IMHO their gap of intelligent is not tht big
4.ya but his crow isn't big enough to carry him away or save him from falling
5.lol how would he know about his ability when even WE dont know the full extend of his EMS?
6.I would love 2 but idk how I'm kinda new :/ but Itachi said it while hes explaining about it to sasuke during their battle sry 4 not having a link
7.yes I am well aware of that but once again it'll cost him great pain and it'll use up 2 much chakra
8.well sasuke fire release is stronger Cuz he made tht dragon shaped fire ball n it's a b rank and itachis best is a regular fire ball which is a c rank n ya basically he has chidori
9.and?! Lol this thing is dangerouse dude is he didn't use all tht time explaining Itachi how Kirin work he wouldn't be able 2 use susano'O since its 2 fast
10.well I guess it's a matter of oppinion but IMO Itachi wouldn't be tht surprise if he let sasuke broke out of it plus y didn't he use any genjutsu after sasuke did tht? Maybe cuz tsukoyomi is hi strongest genjutsu and he broke out of it so there's no point to have a genjutsu battle
11.ok
12.true but I'm pretty sure controlling it would make a different since he can cast less of them since there's more of them in the battle field to control which would take less chakra 2 do n yata mirror is defence sasuke can just make him run out of chakra

1) That was a long time ago when Kishi didnt reveal much, and for example Itachi also said that he wanted to capture Naruto, which was just pretending.So maybe he didnt want to tell his real limits.And in shippuden the power levels are on a different scale...
3) We will never find that out :shrug:
4)True but dont tell me that a hawk will save Sasuke from Itachi
5)Itachi read the Uchiha stone tablet and he knew about EMS and Madara, so maybe he knew about its abilities, but then, even Sasuke doesnt know the full extent of his own powers,yet. Or what time are we talking about? Cause I mean current EMS Sasuke.
6)Ok
7) Maybe I m wrong but even if Sasuke has EMS, it doesnt mean he has more chakra, it just means that he wont go blind.
8)But Itachi has water to counter fire,
9)Kirin needs time to prepare, and Itachi has knowledge on it. Or again: what are the circumstances of the fight and do they have full knowledge on each other?
10)Thats why we wont convince each other That whole fight was just a fake so its not cannon...
11) Maybe.
Still,I go with Itachi, he is too smart to lose to his little foolish brother, he knows the weaknesses of the jutsus, etc. Though it can go either way.

 

[zoezoe]

admit it sasuke fanboys...

IZANAMI <3

itachi is just a better ninja period end of storyxd

 

[Carlhens]

Itachi wins over and over again

 

[lnvalid]

Why do you believe Izanami works? Izanami is only working on people who do n't know who they are, Sasuke clearly knows he is an avenger

"Sasuke clearly knows he is an avenger"
...Izanami would be perfect for sasukes sexuality paradox.

 

[Sasuke1025]

1) That was a long time ago when Kishi didnt reveal much, and for example Itachi also said that he wanted to capture Naruto, which was just pretending.So maybe he didnt want to tell his real limits.And in shippuden the power levels are on a different scale...
3) We will never find that out :shrug:
4)True but dont tell me that a hawk will save Sasuke from Itachi
5)Itachi read the Uchiha stone tablet and he knew about EMS and Madara, so maybe he knew about its abilities, but then, even Sasuke doesnt know the full extent of his own powers,yet. Or what time are we talking about? Cause I mean current EMS Sasuke.
6)Ok
7) Maybe I m wrong but even if Sasuke has EMS, it doesnt mean he has more chakra, it just means that he wont go blind.
8)But Itachi has water to counter fire,
9)Kirin needs time to prepare, and Itachi has knowledge on it. Or again: what are the circumstances of the fight and do they have full knowledge on each other?
10)Thats why we wont convince each other That whole fight was just a fake so its not cannon...
11) Maybe.
Still,I go with Itachi, he is too smart to lose to his little foolish brother, he knows the weaknesses of the jutsus, etc. Though it can go either way.

1.still Danzo fight shows tht sasuke has way more chakra (used susano'O for 75% of the fight, used Amaterasu, summon a hawk, broke out of Danzo seal, used genjutsu, chidori variation)
3.well all I can say is they're both geniuses
4.i guess not but I mean if Itachi made him fall of a bridge or something
5.ya but sasuke read it 2 so he would kno 2 and Itachi said he only knew tht it gives u a new occular jutsu so he doesn't know n ya were talking about current sasuke
7.it doesn't give him more chakra but now he can use his eyes tech with less chakra
8.lol ok I'll give u that but wat rank is his water tech? It doesn't look 2 powerfull 2 me
9.it does take time but if he can pull it off it'll be rough on Itachi
10.I agree
11.he knows about izanami so hell just use susano'O the whole fight thus forcing Itachi 2 use susano'O then Itachi runs out of chakra sasuke wins
I think sasuke will take this one n im not hating I love Itachi 2 but sasuke is just a bad match up 4 Itachi. But ya it can go both way

 

[Scooby Doo]

1.still Danzo fight shows tht sasuke has way more chakra (used susano'O for 75% of the fight, used Amaterasu, summon a hawk, broke out of Danzo seal, used genjutsu, chidori variation)
3.well all I can say is they're both geniuses
4.i guess not but I mean if Itachi made him fall of a bridge or something
5.ya but sasuke read it 2 so he would kno 2 and Itachi said he only knew tht it gives u a new occular jutsu so he doesn't know n ya were talking about current sasuke
7.it doesn't give him more chakra but now he can use his eyes tech with less chakra
8.lol ok I'll give u that but wat rank is his water tech? It doesn't look 2 powerfull 2 me
9.it does take time but if he can pull it off it'll be rough on Itachi
10.I agree
11.he knows about izanami so hell just use susano'O the whole fight thus forcing Itachi 2 use susano'O then Itachi runs out of chakra sasuke wins
I think sasuke will take this one n im not hating I love Itachi 2 but sasuke is just a bad match up 4 Itachi. But ya it can go both way

1)Itachi was ill and planned his own death.
11)Yes,this is the best chance for Sasuke: they both use their MS techs and Itachi runs out of chakra first...but maybe he would outsmart Sasuke:shrug:
And I still say that if Itachi had wanted to kill Sasuke, Sasuke wouldnt have gotten out of tsukoyomi. But lets finish this, I have to go

 

[Sasuke1025]

1)Itachi was ill and planned his own death.
11)Yes,this is the best chance for Sasuke: they both use their MS techs and Itachi runs out of chakra first...but maybe he would outsmart Sasuke:shrug:
And I still say that if Itachi had wanted to kill Sasuke, Sasuke wouldnt have gotten out of tsukoyomi. But lets finish this, I have to go

Well alrite then it can go both ways nice debating with you looking forward 2 do this in the future again ^_^

 

[devineblade]

i like them both equaly but sasuke is stronger youd have to be stupid not to see that

 

[Fearmonger]

Now at least I can see your point of view. But I thought like this: Sasuke: has EMS with susanoo,amaterasu, has his ninjutsus, genjutsu, etc.,but he doesnt have Itachi's yata or totsuka, and Itachi has KA (but OK, lets restrict KA and izanami)...Then of course Sasuke wins... But I still think that this is unfair :shrug: I understand that Sasuke has EMS so he has Itachi's techs, though its not totally correct because he has blaze release which Itachi didnt have- so thats why I said that Itachi's yata and totsuka are only Itachi's weapons in this battle... And I still argue that tsukoyomi can defeat Sasuke:shrug:Why couldnt have Itachi let Sasuke break it? Though maybe it was Itachi who broke it but he let Sasuke think that he (Sasuke) broke it, as it was a genjutsu so Itachi could have made Sasuke to think that ...maybe it sounds a little bit confused and stupid but Itachi once said that his tsukoyomi cannot be broken....and we know that he just wanted to push Sasuke to his limits so thats why Itachi used even tsukoyomi against him.

It is fair. That's why EMS over MS. More power,do you expect them to be equal? xd

Yeah,that sounds kind of far fetched. The uchiha scroll did say that only a sibling with a fully matured sharingan can break tsukuyomi. So why would it be so unbeleivable that Sasuke broke it by himself?

 

[akimofnevis]

Izanami isn't working because they need to have some sort of physical contact and Susanoo stops that. Sasuke is better than Itachi in everything except intelligence now, he wins mid diff at most.

itachi is smarter than sasuke n can defeat sasuke no matter how powerful he gets, brains over brawn

 

[HiddenWarrior]

Itach is indeed better than Sasuke and it shows in the series

True, ems>ms but without Itachi dying there's no ems for Sasuke. Unless youre trying to say EMS Sasuke vs Edo Itachi .. Which in my opinion gives Sasuke a better chance but not that much if you understand the perks of Edo

Please Sasuke fan boys, just accept Kishi's work/words like the rest of us have when it comes to our favorite characters being inferior to another.

 

[Sasuke1025]

itachi is smarter than sasuke n can defeat sasuke no matter how powerful he gets, brains over brawn

Yup that's y shikamaru>madara

Itach is indeed better than Sasuke and it shows in the series

True, ems>ms but without Itachi dying there's no ems for Sasuke. Unless youre trying to say EMS Sasuke vs Edo Itachi .. Which in my opinion gives Sasuke a better chance but not that much if you understand the perks of Edo

Please Sasuke fan boys, just accept Kishi's work/words like the rest of us have when it comes to out favorite characters being inferior to another.

Trust me I'm really not one of those type of fanboys plus I love Itachi so If u can prove me wrong I would love to admit that Itachi>sasuke

 

[Zato]

Well lets see, Sasuke says "But Itachi you were perfect" right before Itachi released himself. Sasuke is pretty much saying that Itachi was still better then he was...

 

[KidGamer65]

Itach is indeed better than Sasuke and it shows in the series

True, ems>ms but without Itachi dying there's no ems for Sasuke. Unless youre trying to say EMS Sasuke vs Edo Itachi .. Which in my opinion gives Sasuke a better chance but not that much if you understand the perks of Edo

Please Sasuke fan boys, just accept Kishi's work/words like the rest of us have when it comes to our favorite characters being inferior to another.

This is obviously a hypothetical match up: Itachi when he died and Sasuke now, instead of calling people fanboys for no reason why don't you back your claim.

 

[Sasuke1025]

Well lets see, Sasuke says "But Itachi you were perfect" right before Itachi released himself. Sasuke is pretty much saying that Itachi was still better then he was...

Wow u gotta be kidding me :flaw: wat about he said that meaning he was the perfect brother for sacrificing himself for sasuke:sy:

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

I will admit, Sasuke is stronger. But Itachi would beat him, 8/10.

 

[Sasuke Ninja Way Reborn]

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Seems like I win, I have for everything a Counter, I am not a Fanboy I am dealing with logic and not bullshit who says "blabla Emo got EMS Susanoo Amaterasu"

sry dude, u are not in my league.

1.EMS.
2.Blaze Release.
3.Spam Amaterasu.
4.Susanoo.
5.Susanoo Arrow.
6.Tsukuyomi.
7.Kirin
8.Perfect Susanoo and Rinnegan soon to get.

Now your turn......let's see what you got.

 

[Champ]

Itachi's basic Ninjutsu is out classed by Sasuke's. Itachi's level of Taijutsu is useless against Sasuke Susano'o Rib cage . Itachi's vision based Genjutsu would be completely countered by Sasuke's. Sasuke can control the flames of Amaterasu so usin that Jutsu would give Sasuke the advantage. Both have Susano'o and both Susano'o's probably can not pierce one another with their attacks, so the only difference is Sasuke with greater stamina can use Susano'o more frequently, hold it longer. MS Itachi's can't keep Susano'o up longer than Sasuke, so while their battlin prep for Kirin wil be done by time the Itachi runs out of chakra and drops his Susano'o and is killed by Kirin.

 

[Bogard]

Itachi's basic Ninjutsu is out classed by Sasuke's. Itachi's level of Taijutsu is useless against Sasuke Susano'o Rib cage . Itachi's vision based Genjutsu would be completely countered by Sasuke's. Sasuke can control the flames of Amaterasu so usin that Jutsu would give Sasuke the advantage. Both have Susano'o and both Susano'o's probably can not pierce one another with their attacks, so the only difference is Sasuke with greater stamina can use Susano'o more frequently, hold it longer. MS Itachi's can't keep Susano'o up longer than Sasuke, so while their battlin prep for Kirin wil be done by time the Itachi runs out of chakra and drops his Susano'o and is killed by Kirin.

Where is the part where Sasuke is stupid when Itachi is too smart for him, so he could feint him with a kage bunshin and kill him totsuka?:shrug: