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Izanami isn't working because they need to have some sort of physical contact and Susanoo stops that. Sasuke is better than Itachi in everything except intelligence now, he wins mid diff at most.

what kind of blabba dabba are you talking about, explain how he wins and not just defence .
 

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Damn u didn't have to go as far as finding tht many prove to show how sasuke would lose. With that many prove I can't even counter all of tht good job bro here have some ice cream :ice:

Hmm...lets see... tsukoyomi is more than enough. And dont tell me please that Sasuke has already broken it when they fought, because Itachi wasnt serious back then...And what can Sasuke do against yata mirror or totsuka?
 

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Sasuke Won ;) just saying.
 

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Hmm. The sheer amount of troll on this thread is...unbeleivable. Sasuke EMS has Itachi's power+his own. So you Itachi wankers are saying Itachi>Sasuke and Itachi. We have not seen Sasuke's full power as he was ordered by Itachi to stand back but he was still alot of help saving Itachi 3 times and pinning Kabuto to a wall etc.

Izanami wont work because Sasuke knows who he is and knows how Izanami works so he can avoid it. We know how much of a genious Sasuke is. Read the link in my sig telling you to click it and if you still havent changed your mind then you are an official retard.
 
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Hmm...lets see... tsukoyomi is more than enough. And dont tell me please that Sasuke has already broken it when they fought, because Itachi wasnt serious back then...And what can Sasuke do against yata mirror or totsuka?

Itachi displayed his dismay that Sasuke was actually able to break the jutsu. He didn't 'fake' his surprise; he wanted to push Sasuke in order for his little brother to grow stronger. What else did he want to do? Drain Sasuke's chakra reserves and ultimately seal Orochimaru. What was the best way to do that? Use Tsukuyomi. To claim that Itachi would purposely allow Sasuke to break it in that situation is laughable, since it would go against his objectives. The databook explained that Sasuke's masterful use of the 3 tomoe was enough to overcome Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan. With the EMS, Sasuke would shit on Itachi's attempts at genjutsu.
 

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Hmm...lets see... tsukoyomi is more than enough. And dont tell me please that Sasuke has already broken it when they fought, because Itachi wasnt serious back then...And what can Sasuke do against yata mirror or totsuka?

Of course he did that's probably y Itachi was so surprise he could break it with a 3 tomoe sharingan plus breaking news! He has EMS now :D yata n totsuka won't be a problem since sasuke has susano'O to block totsuka blade and hell just wait till Itachi runs out of chakra or hurts his eye then he'll finish Itachi off
 

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Of course he did that's probably y Itachi was so surprise he could break it with a 3 tomoe sharingan plus breaking news! He has EMS now :D yata n totsuka won't be a problem since sasuke has susano'O to block totsuka blade and hell just wait till Itachi runs out of chakra or hurts his eye then he'll finish Itachi off

Havent you noticed that Itachi was just pretending during the whole fight? He acted like a bad guy etc...So I still say that tsukoyomi wins this. But he has izanami as well, and if we are talking about a fight where they are at their full strength, then Itachi is not ill, and he has KA...
 

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Havent you noticed that Itachi was just pretending during the whole fight? He acted like a bad guy etc...So I still say that tsukoyomi wins this. But he has izanami as well, and if we are talking about a fight where they are at their full strength, then Itachi is not ill, and he has KA...

1) Sasuke broke tsukuyomi no problem. You say that Sasuke only did that because he was holding back but tell me what you think Itachi could have possibly done in the half second before Sasuke broke out.

2) Izanami wont work. Read my previous post

3) Itachi doesn't have kotoamatsukami. His crow has it and it was in Naruto then.

4) Are you an Itachi fan?(Just a sincere question)
 

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1) Sasuke broke tsukuyomi no problem. You say that Sasuke only did that because he was holding back but tell me what you think Itachi could have possibly done in the half second before Sasuke broke out.

2) Izanami wont work. Read my previous post

3) Itachi doesn't have kotoamatsukami. His crow has it and it was in Naruto then.

4) Are you an Itachi fan?(Just a sincere question)

1)I dont understand your question sorry, maybe I really am a retard.
2)I thought that the user of izanami decides the fate, but maybe I havent read the explanation threads on it...but ok...
3)I wrote that if we are talking about their fight when they are at their full power, meaning that they have their full arsenal. What do you mean by 'then'? When do you think this fight would take place? Because then Itachi is
dead so they would never fight.
4) I cannot convince you so believe what you want. How would Sasuke have everything that Itachi had? He doesnt have totsuka or yata, as far as I know, for example.
 

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Havent you noticed that Itachi was just pretending during the whole fight? He acted like a bad guy etc...So I still say that tsukoyomi wins this. But he has izanami as well, and if we are talking about a fight where they are at their full strength, then Itachi is not ill, and he has KA...

Itachi only didn't want 2 kill him casting tsukoyomi won't kill him but he was surprise that he could broke out of it. Itachi still has lower chakra then sasuke and sasuke dojutsu won't take up as much chakra n y would Itachi have KA? Get real bro:flaw:
 

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Itachi only didn't want 2 kill him casting tsukoyomi won't kill him but he was surprise that he could broke out of it. Itachi still has lower chakra then sasuke and sasuke dojutsu won't take up as much chakra n y would Itachi have KA? Get real bro:flaw:

No need for facepalm, cause I could post it a few times too....I said that if we are talking about their fight when they were at their max.powers, meaning Itachi was not ill and had KA...Or when do you think the fight would take place? When Itachi is an edo? Then Sasuke has no chance. Or before Sasuke got EMS? Then he also has no chance...Dont be unfair. Lets talk about a fight where both of them are at full power...
 

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1)I dont understand your question sorry, maybe I really am a retard.
2)I thought that the user of izanami decides the fate, but maybe I havent read the explanation threads on it...but ok...
3)I wrote that if we are talking about their fight when they are at their full power, meaning that they have their full arsenal. What do you mean by 'then'? When do you think this fight would take place? Because then Itachi is
dead so they would never fight.
4) I cannot convince you so believe what you want. How would Sasuke have everything that Itachi had? He doesnt have totsuka or yata, as far as I know, for example.
Wow dude Itachi at full chakra still has less then sasuke and he can't use his eye tech as much as sasuke can I don't wanna write in again so here try 2 counter this
Haha ok I'll tell* you xD
1.way better stamina
2.he can spam his EMS
3.pretty smart not smarter but he's also a genious
4.hawk summon
5.he knows about Itachi ms abilities
6.sasukes eyes jutsu cause less chakra
7.ama coated sword and arrows
8.better at ninjutsu and has a lot more of it than Itachi
9.kirin
10.genjutsu won't work on him
11.he knows about izanami
12.blaze release
There's more but I feel like thts enough :p
Your turn :)
 

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1) When Sasuke had only MS, and he spammed it, he also ran out of stamina. And when Itachi died against Sasuke he was ill. But ok, lets say Sasuke has more stamina, but I dont know why people think that Itachi has low chakra level and Sasuke has more. Where does the manga state it? (Maybe it really does but I forgot it ,then sorry)
2)True
3)Compared to Itachi he is inferior in intelligence, and in a fight between them thats what matters
4)And what? (Itachi-crows)
5)Itachi also knows about Sasuke's abilities
6)How do you know that? (Maybe its stated in the manga, then sorry I forgot it, pls link it)
7)Itachi has yata and he also has susanoo
8) Their fire jutsus are the same, and Sasuke basically has more jutsus because he uses the variants of chidory, or at least jutsus derived from chidori and we have seen less of Itachi than Sasuke.
9)And?
10) I still say tsukoyomi
11) Ok
12)Itachi also has amaterasu so sasuke's ability to control its shape wont make much difference imo, and Itachi still has yata
 

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1)I dont understand your question sorry, maybe I really am a retard.
2)I thought that the user of izanami decides the fate, but maybe I havent read the explanation threads on it...but ok...
3)I wrote that if we are talking about their fight when they are at their full power, meaning that they have their full arsenal. What do you mean by 'then'? When do you think this fight would take place? Because then Itachi is
dead so they would never fight.
4) I cannot convince you so believe what you want. How would Sasuke have everything that Itachi had? He doesnt have totsuka or yata, as far as I know, for example.

1) Nuu! Dont call yourself that. It makes me feel bad.
2) Only the fate of those caught in it.
3) I see but Itachi doesn't have the crow containing Shisui's mongekyo. The crow is in Naruto. Giving Itachi that crow would be like giving Sasuke back his CM and Orochimaru power.
4) Read the link in my sig,click it and read all of it. If you don't want to then Ill quote it for you.
"Sasuke's new power will be frightening. He will be able to wield the Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror even better than Itachi..."-Masashi Kishimoto
 

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Genjutsu is useless, Itachi has less stamina than Sasuke, and Sasuke can keep his Susanoo up longer, Sasuke wins.
 

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1) Nuu! Dont call yourself that. It makes me feel bad.
2) Only the fate of those caught in it.
3) I see but Itachi doesn't have the crow containing Shisui's mongekyo. The crow is in Naruto. Giving Itachi that crow would be like giving Sasuke back his CM and Orochimaru power.
4) Read the link in my sig,click it and read all of it. If you don't want to then Ill quote it for you.
"Sasuke's new power will be frightening. He will be able to wield the Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror even better than Itachi..."-Masashi Kishimoto

1)Ok, I just didnt understand what do you want with that half minute- thing? They were in Itachi's tsukoyomi-world, and he can control time in it , but it doesnt mean its always just a second, like against Kakashi.:shrug: I think that Itachi, when he saw that Sasuke has reached his limits, let him break it, and then pretended to be surprised. Dont be fooled by Zetsu's comments...Kishi didnt want to reveal the real things.
2) And what if Sasuke is caught in it?
3) Ok I can accept that but then - 4) Its unfair IMO to give Itachis weapons to Sasuke...at least in a fight between them. Then Sasuke should give back his MS to Itachi...And LOL I didnt know about that interview is that real? Then Kishi is a troll...
 

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1)Ok, I just didnt understand what do you want with that half minute- thing? They were in Itachi's tsukoyomi-world, and he can control time in it , but it doesnt mean its always just a second, like against Kakashi.:shrug: I think that Itachi, when he saw that Sasuke has reached his limits, let him break it, and then pretended to be surprised. Dont be fooled by Zetsu's comments...Kishi didnt want to reveal the real things.
2) And what if Sasuke is caught in it?
3) Ok I can accept that but then - 4) Its unfair IMO to give Itachis weapons to Sasuke...at least in a fight between them. Then Sasuke should give back his MS to Itachi...And LOL I didnt know about that interview is that real? Then Kishi is a troll...

1) How can Itachi let him break out? I heard Itachi can controll the time the tsukuyomi takes not the strength of the technique.
2) Then he will probably break out(because he knows who he is and accepts fate). Or he will just be caught in it with nothing he can do. But Sasuke won't let that happen
3) I beleive you
4) Why is it unfair?xd People who get EMS get the other person's design and power fused with theirs and a new power. Sasuke got Itachi's susanoo weapons for his own susanoo,his genjutsu skill and for his new power he got the ability to controll time in reality. Madara got Izuna's entire susanoo added to his own to form simese twins and PS. If Itachi used Shisui's eye for an EMS then he would get KA and some new power.

Itallic is not to be taken as fact. That is just my opinion/thought.
 
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1) How can Itachi let him break out? I heard Itachi can controll the time the tsukuyomi takes not the strength of the technique.
2) Then he will probably break out(because he knows who he is and accepts fate). Or he will just be caught in it with nothing he can do. But Sasuke won't let that happen
3) I beleive you
4) Why is it unfair?xd People who get EMS get the other person's design and power fused with theirs and a new power. Sasuke got Itachi's susanoo weapons for his own susanoo,his genjutsu skill and for his new power he got the ability to controll time in reality. Madara got Izuna's entire susanoo added to his own to form simese twins and PS.

Now at least I can see your point of view. But I thought like this: Sasuke: has EMS with susanoo,amaterasu, has his ninjutsus, genjutsu, etc.,but he doesnt have Itachi's yata or totsuka, and Itachi has KA (but OK, lets restrict KA and izanami)...Then of course Sasuke wins... But I still think that this is unfair :shrug: I understand that Sasuke has EMS so he has Itachi's techs, though its not totally correct because he has blaze release which Itachi didnt have- so thats why I said that Itachi's yata and totsuka are only Itachi's weapons in this battle... And I still argue that tsukoyomi can defeat Sasuke:shrug:Why couldnt have Itachi let Sasuke break it? Though maybe it was Itachi who broke it but he let Sasuke think that he (Sasuke) broke it, as it was a genjutsu so Itachi could have made Sasuke to think that ...maybe it sounds a little bit confused and stupid but Itachi once said that his tsukoyomi cannot be broken....and we know that he just wanted to push Sasuke to his limits so thats why Itachi used even tsukoyomi against him.
 
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