Itachi > Naruto?????
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I was talking about Itachi formulating plans. Naruto never does that. I'm saying that if Itachi did that, then yes Naruto would lose. But when people compare two characters, I think it's fair to make both of them have no intel on the other in order to better compare their abilities. If Itachi were still alive, he wouldn't even fight Naruto, they're allies. However, it is common knowledge at this point that BSM Naruto is stronger than Itachi. In a hypothetical situation, yes Naruto would start off in base mode and he would most certainly lose to Itachi. But when I compare two characters, I just automatically compare them at their most capable state, Naruto being his BSM. When I do that, then Itachi does lose to Naruto. But if Itachi were still alive and they had to fight would he lose imo, well no. He would plan ahead and win. He was Kishimoto's deus ex machina character in the series.
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So essentially, you're giving Itachi complete intel while Naruto does not? I smell bias and double standards. You must be fanboying Itachi!
Yeah, like that's happening. Here's what your beloved Itachi thinks of this.
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Ahhhh.. Thanks for clearing that up. Haha people forget that their personalities are heavily dependent on the techniques and actions used. Most people makes these match-ups so askew for their character to claim victory not knowing the character's normally first reaction attack just when the battle starts absolutely matters in the end which would put Naruto at an immediate disadvantage. And wouldn't Itachi still win since his most capable state was Edo Itachi. Now without the sickness bearing him down and the lack of stamina?(Since you were going with most powerful states.) Itachi in my eyes still wins because of Tsukuyomi and technique deflection. On the defensive Naruto indefinitely loses, if Itachi were to somehow lose himself (alive state) and start to go on the offensive, he'll die and waste his Chakra while he's at it too.
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I dislike Itachi. And pre-battle strategies aren't in ANY OF NARUTO'S feats, whatsoever.. There's no double standards, their personalities come into play when you put them in a battle. If Itachi was alive, Itachi would've indefinitely knew of BSM Naruto, (Akatsuki roots obviously) while Itachi never uses his full potential unless absolutely necessary. IE: Kabuto and to an extent Nagato. (This is if they weren't allies)
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I also compare my characters when they're alive, so no Edo form for Itachi. Healthy Itachi would plan ahead and it is in his character, so he would most likely win if he did that. I'm not trying to put Itachi down in any way and I still think that he is one of the top ten strongest ninja in the series. But in a real situation, yes Itachi would plan ahead because he doesn't fight anyone w/o doing that bar Kabuto(and that was only because he had to) and probably win. But if BSM Naruto were to face off against Healthy Itachi and neither had intel, then I just think that BSM Naruto would win.
Ahhhh, I'd normally compare in all states, if this is all out, to me it'd be Edo Itachi vs. BSM Naruto. But yeah, without intel, and they battle against each other while Itachi's alive.. Naruto destroys him. I'm not denying that xD
Sennin of Logic
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Oh no, Naruto doesn't do pre-battle strategies, he just always finds a way to win, which still solos Itachi! Also, giving Itachi knowledge he never had in the manga? I smell favoritism!
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Given that he's in the Akatsuki, he'd nevertheless have intel and is constantly surveilling his "target".. There's no favoritism, just Itachi has the means of gaining intelligence while Naruto doesn't have, want, or need (plot relevance) to gain prior information. This is still going by all the means of how Itachi and Naruto both staged things out in life, and in life, Naruto NEVER uses intel, he dives into the heat of battle... And Itachi, well... Being an Akatsuki member has that luxury.
Plus, Itachi still has the means to defeat Naruto... It's not a definite for either side, Itachi is the manga's Dues Ex Machina after all. And if you wanna see a true surprise...
Kotoamatsukami if he were to summon the crow. Where's Naruto's counter for a Genjutsu that affects you on a purely subconscious level? There's no physical distortion to signal Naruto's body and Kurama's response to breaking it.
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Char Aznable
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Itachi loses here. The fight he had against Sasuke showed that Itachi cannot go the distance without MS. Itachi is not one for violence or protracted conflicts. Genjutsu is his forte. In a test of ninjutsu, Sasuke and theoretically Naruto would overwhelm him. Also remember Itachi recognized Gai as a threat due to his taijutsu skill. I don't think Itachi trained or was prepared to deal with all manner of opponents. Susanno is Itachi's trump card, but it barely saved him from Kirin. Naruto's rasenshuriken is certainly on par if not stronger than Kirin. Naruto and to an extent Sasuke (prior to getting the MS and EMS) use subterfuge and trickery in their battles to given them an edge. Sage Naruto or Nine Tails Naruto would be enough to beat Itachi.
I honestly don't see how yata mirror or totsuka blade is relevant. Barito with bsm is way too fast to get stabbed, and he could sense it with sm anyways. Itachi doesn't have any sort of endurance to be able toake those two weapons matter. Tsukiyome is the only argument people could make
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No. Itachi wankers are disgusting. Naruto takes a massive shit on this guy-it's not even close. Even sasuke(who's far stronger than Itachi right now) can't beat 100% BSM Naruto.
