Itachi = Nagato

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Ok, the DELUGE of Nagato vs Itachi threads on the internet will get nowhere just like the Minato vs itachi threads, maybe we can all accept that they are on the SAME TIER and thus there is no clear winner without taking into account tons of factors, they are very much the same as in they were both child prodigies and 2 of the greatest ninja of their generation. Bottom line is, victory is not clear at all for this matchup, at least in my opinion.
 

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No. Nagato is a tier above Itachi. Nagato can be put on the same tier as the likes of BM Naruto and Obito w/ Jins. Itachi can't.
Okay, no way. Itachi can potentially beat Naruto with Tsukuyomi. Nagato will be wasted because he can't move and his defenses are reflex-based (unlike Susano'o, once it's up,) so Frog Kata will break his neck. The only way Nagato stands a chance is if Naruto is retarded and uses chakra-based attacks knowing full-well they won't work. Just like how he ought to know not to look at Itachi's eyes. Neither stand a chance against him if he actually uses his abilities logically.

If we're talking about Obito at his best, then once again, Nagato has the short end of the stick here as Obito and his own Pain can easily get Nagato to burn his interval then quickly warp him. Or Izanagi is a flat-out guarantee for that. However, if Itachi sealed just one of Obito's Paths with the Totsuka, then Obito's plan would have been ruined, so it's unlikely Obito would even risk fighting Itachi. Itachi also has a hard counter to Izanagi.

Not to mention Nagato's never been shown to be particularly good at using his abilities.

Kabuto pulled the big guns out immediately. Nagato, whether before Kabuto took control or was using Pain, always progressed slowly with his powers in battle. And while his shown abilities are better for greater numbers, Itachi has a number of hyped abilities that are ignored, such as being able to control top tier ninja with Tsukuyomi or multiple entities at one time. So from purely shown abilities and a logical perspective, Nagato > Itachi.

...But from just about every other viewpoint, the opposite is true.
 

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Okay, that's just wrong. Itachi can potentially beat Naruto with Tsukuyomi. Nagato will be wasted because he can't move and his defenses are reflex-based (unlike Susano'o, once it's up,) so Frog Kata will break his neck. The only way Nagato stands a chance is if Naruto is retarded and uses chakra-based attacks knowing full-well they won't work. Just like how he ought to know not to look at Itachi's eyes. Neither stand a chance against him if he actually uses his abilities logically.

If we're talking about Obito at his best, then once again, Nagato has the short end of the stick here as Obito and his own Pain can pretty easily get Nagato to brun his interval than quickly warp him. Or Izanagi is a flat-out guarantee. However, if Itachi sealed just one of Obito's Paths with the Totsuka, then Obito's plan would have been ruined, so it's unlikely Obito would risk fighitng Itachi. And Itachi is also the one with a solid counter to Izanagi.

Not to mention Nagato's never been shown to be particularly good at using his abilities.

Kabuto pulled the big guns out immediately. Nagato, whether before Kabuto took control or was using Pain, always progressed slowly with his powers in battle. And while his abilities are better fro greater numbers, Itachi has a number of hyped abilities that are ignored, such as being able to control powerful ninja or multiple entities at one time.
Then I guess Nagato moves down to KM Naruto and Itachi's tier, but they still aren't equals.
 

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No .. idk why this person is saying nagato has never "SHOWN" to be bad at using his ablities .. he invented the six paths technique With eyes that were not even his ... Nagato can use his abilities fine. Not to mention his chakra/stamina is leagues above itachi's
 

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No .. idk why this person is saying nagato has never "SHOWN" to be bad at using his ablities .. he invented the six paths technique With eyes that were not even his ... Nagato can use his abilities fine. Not to mention his chakra/stamina is leagues above itachi's

Naruto stomps both Nagato and Itachi with low difficulty. Bijuudama solos.
Are you joking .. nagato counters it with preta .. itachi counters it with YM .. your insane
 

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Yeah right. As if Yata will block something that levels mountain ranges.

As for Preta, you must be joking.
..That levels mountain ranges(Yet taka was able to dodge it easily on the ground TBB is overrated)

.YM Blocks any and every attack een TBB

Preta absorbs an unlimited amount of jutsu ..TBB included unless you come up with proof otherwise .. thats false
 

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Yeah bro, totes. Not like Naruto can sense it
What he senses is not chakra. Hence why this surprised him, along with many other examples.

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or use clones.
Like he did against Uchiha Obito, amirite?

But like I said, if Naruto uses his abilities logically. Then he'll win comfortably. But that's not always the case with him.

For example, Sage Mode would have turned Nagato to stone here, or Frog Katas would have annihilated him.

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Those are counters Naruto already used but was too stupid to use.

So going down to Tsukuyomi out of error in judgment is perfectly plausible based on canon.
 

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No .. idk why this person is saying nagato has never "SHOWN" to be bad at using his ablities .. he invented the six paths technique With eyes that were not even his ... Nagato can use his abilities fine. Not to mention his chakra/stamina is leagues above itachi's
Not bad, as in a lack of mastery, but bad as in a slow pace. Nagato starts slow, canonically.

And that gives his opponents more time to beat him before he uses his big guns.

That's why Jiriaya entered Sage Mode.

That's why Naruto became KN6 and kept refreshing into Sage Mode.

That's why Naruto and Bee weren't destroyed until after Kabuto took over.
 

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Not bad, as in a lack of mastery, but bad as in a lack of pace. Nagato starts slow, canonically.

And that gives his opponents more time to beat him before he uses his big guns.
Well he is a little arrogant ... But he underestimated a kid being naruto ( as everyone seems to do). And he also had his strongest power drained from him Itachi (who he has shown respect too) He would not simply underestimate.
 
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