Itachi > Nagato but Pain > Itachi

[Obito3631]

didnt nagato regain his senses before he was stabbed .. he obv wanted to be hit .. but anyways crippled nagato would lose... im saying un crippled nagato would win mid diff

No he regained his senses after he was stabbed, thats when he started talking.
once again un crippled Nagato would beat Itachi, I never said otherwise, but Prime Nagato was always crippled, uncrippled prime nagato doesn't exist, he's either crippled and strong or weak and uncrippled.

 

[Exaar]

And your point is? Are you suggesting that itachi should be controlled by Kabuto in a VS thread?

My point is, if naruto/Bee wasn't there and if it was a 1v1, Itachi wouldn't of been able to so easily take out his shared vision.

 

[Obito3631]

My point is, if naruto/Bee wasn't there and if it was a 1v1, Itachi wouldn't of been able to so easily take out his shared vision.

But even if he did have shared vision he wouldn't be able to dodge the totsuka since he can't move.

 

[Midday]

Itachi is stronger than neither version.

 

[Exaar]

But even if he did have shared vision he wouldn't be able to dodge the totsuka since he can't move.

Dodging isn't the only option.

As i said, Shinra tensei is more than enough.

 

[Obito3631]

Itachi is stronger than neither version.

The manga says otherwise

 

[Exaar]

The manga says otherwise

Manga said nothing of the sort.

All i saw was Itachi, Naruto and Bee defeating nagato.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Kinda agree with you there :/

 

[Obito3631]

Dodging isn't the only option.

As i said, Shinra tensei is more than enough.

A simple ST isn't powerful enough to hinder susanoo

 

[Obito3631]

Manga said nothing of the sort.

All i saw was Itachi, Naruto and Bee defeating nagato.

Oh so Naruto and Bee were the ones who sealed Nagato?

 

[Exaar]

A simple ST isn't powerful enough to hinder susanoo

All it needs to do it deflect the sword.

Oh so Naruto and Bee were the ones who sealed Nagato?

Without them Itachi would never of gotten the chance to stab him.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Like seriously......

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This version of Nagato is almost unstoppable! Why? Because he has a strategy that shits on 99% or all of naruto universe with on Tobi and SM Kabuto able to defeat him more time then not (and even they can loose). Edo madara doesnt count since he is a product of Kabuto (fact).

He then does summon Jutsu:

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Too summon the 6 paths of pain! And:

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Too make his handicapp body fly out of reach. That way he can be high in the sky while his 6 paths of pain fight for him.

He then summons the chameleon to hide the reviving path:

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With that strategy he protects the one that will be reviving them. It really doesn't matter really since The main Nagato could revive the dead paths aswell from the sky or another location.

So not only would the ninjas have to get past the 6 paths of pain and kill them all, they then would have to deal with nagato who has all there powers in one body! WHo the hell can defeat this strategy??? Or who has the best chance?

Alllot of ppl fail to realize that when he was alive this strategy is available to him, and there was a reason why he was dubbed Strongest member in akatsuki!

Kabuto couldn't kill nagato/pain without edo tensei to save his life. Seeing as he requires edo tensei to possibly do the feat, it's no longer kabuto who defeated nagato, but the dead ninja who'd evidently pull the feat off.
Nice job over rating that fodder though

 

[Obito3631]

All it needs to do it deflect the sword.



Without them Itachi would never of gotten the chance to stab him.

But there's a 5-10 secs cooldown before he can do another ST, Itachi waits until he's done doing ST then stabs him, gg.

Just because of CT? Itachi will kill him before he gets to prepare CT.

 

[Exaar]

But there's a 5-10 secs cooldown before he can do another ST, Itachi waits until he's done doing ST then stabs him, gg.

Just because of CT? Itachi will kill him before he gets to prepare CT.

Its a 5sec CD for Pain.

Naruto himself said Nagato's techs are both stronger and faster than Pains.

Here he used Shinra tensei

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Mere moments after he uses it again

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[Draegod]

Kabuto couldn't kill nagato/pain without edo tensei to save his life. Seeing as he requires edo tensei to possibly do the feat, it's no longer kabuto who defeated nagato, but the dead ninja who'd evidently pull the feat off.
Nice job over rating that fodder though

Noob what are you talking about?

Where did i mention kabuto? Are you blind and dumb?

This is nagato>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>itachi!

Itachi fangirls like your self love to hate any threat that might beat itachi (many ninjas can defeat him btw).

Get over it!

 

[Ultimatum]

But there's a 5-10 secs cooldown before he can do another ST, Itachi waits until he's done doing ST then stabs him, gg.

Just because of CT? Itachi will kill him before he gets to prepare CT.

Care to explain how Itachi would kill him regardless of CT?

 

[AGoodBoy]

Noob what are you talking about?

Where did i mention kabuto? Are you blind and dumb?

This is nagato>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>itachi!

Itachi fangirls like your self love to hate any threat that might beat itachi (many ninjas can defeat him btw).

Get over it!

"Because he has a strategy that shits on 99% or all of naruto universe with on Tobi and SM Kabuto able to defeat him more time then not (and even they can loose)"

Shit, that must be awkward....
When did i mention itachi? Like seriously, when? So, If i go into a thread with Madara vs hashirama, and some idiot pops up with Sakura > Hashirama and i say saskura isn't, i'm somehow talking about madara now? Desperate response is desperate. Try harder.

 

[Obito3631]

Its a 5sec CD for Pain.

Naruto himself said Nagato's techs are both stronger and faster than Pains.

Here he used Shinra tensei

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Mere moments after he uses it again

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That was a bad translation, he said his movements and strength have increased.
also even if he meant speed it didnt have anything to do with the cd of his jutsus but the speed at which he can execute the jutsus.

also there was clearly a 5 seconds interval between when he used it to dispel amaterasu and the second time.

 

[Obito3631]

Care to explain how Itachi would kill him regardless of CT?

Totsuka blade.

 

[Draegod]

"Because he has a strategy that shits on 99% or all of naruto universe with on Tobi and SM Kabuto able to defeat him more time then not (and even they can loose)"

Shit, that must be awkward....
When did i mention itachi? Like seriously, when? So, If i go into a thread with Madara vs hashirama, and some idiot pops up with Sakura > Hashirama and i say saskura isn't, i'm somehow talking about madara now? Desperate response is desperate. Try harder.

Again where did i mention regular kabuto???? I said "SM Kabuto" Big difference! And yes he shits on any character that has battle feats (not so6p). Get over it! Itachi uses weapons that he wasnt born with to seal. Does that means he doesnt win?

Naruto uses Kurama to kill, does that mean kurama only won???

You are beyond clueless its sad.

Users like you like to make excuses because fact is just to much for you to handle!

Kabuto> nagato, itachi, hahsirama, ems madara, sasuke, naruto only obito has a chance to win (and edo madara if you dumbA$$es wanna count him).

Kabuto> your thoughts! ^_^