Itachi misconceptions !!

[Blaze Release]

Whilst i appreciate what you are trying to do, you are biting more than you can chew.
Quiet a lot of things you state are incorrect, i can assure you.

Good thread though

EDIT: Hopefully this thread will get hot.

Meh i cannot wait so ill say this. First of all the finger genjutsu you are wrong. It requires 1 seal and 1 seal only and in that pages you uploaded only the ram seal was demonstrated unless you can show me another seal prepared by itachi. Secondly if you go back and watch the events in the genjutsu you'd note that itachi mentains this 1 seals (ram) when needed.

Secondly naruto has NEVER moved from his spot. You prolly got what you did about him aiming a rasengan at something from the anime, however that was the manga. Throughout the illusion naruto was ALWAYS beside chiyo and sakura and its this close proximity that was evident when they broke him out of the illusion. That genjutsu doesn't paralyse true because that isn't its aim however when you are in the illusion you have to break free to come back to your senses and what not.

Tsukuyomi is short range like any other sharingan genjutsu however there has never been a metre limit on it even in the manga so im not sure where you got 10 m from. You then went further to say its almost impossible to use it in battle. Erm i hope you know that itachi was having a shuriken assault with sasuke when he activated tsukuyomi but also he got bee in a sharingan genjutsu during their duel. If the proximity was there for a sharingan genjutsu, tsukuyomi is possible. You then forget that his karasu bunshin and kuchiyose karasu will allow him to for a brief moment distort an opponents eye sight and when they regain their eyesight, itachi wouldve closed the gap to use tsukuyomi.

There are some points on amaterasu i agree with however if you noticed even Ai had to look into sasuke's eyes to get the gist of amaterasu and go v2. If opponents are willing to do this against itachi to evade amaterasu then by all means.

As for the yata mirror i agree it doesnt give a 360 protection however itachi isn't vulnerable as you claim because susano is protecting him from behind

 

[VongolaX]

Kisame disagrees, kisame has obviously seen someone/people die of tsuskyomi

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Even kakashi asks why he didnt do it..

Databook one and two puts "Merciful" Under Itachi's characteristics

put one and two together

is it me or am i the only one who sees "i 've seen?"
of panel activities do not count because ppl have ways to disagree or "counter"

 

[Owarij]

is it me or am i the only one who sees "i 've seen?"
of panel activities do not count because ppl have ways to disagree or "counter"

Wait Wait Wait

Have you seen anyone die from jiraya's toad stomach?

though he said noone has escaped it before?
what? does that mean it can't kill?

meh, back to my anime

 

[Bogard]

Nice thread man, it needed to be done

 

[VongolaX]

Wait Wait Wait

Have you seen anyone die from jiraya's toad stomach?

though he said noone has escaped it before?
what? does that mean it can't kill?

meh, back to my anime

Not can't kill, just not seen. It has not been seen, so it doesn't count as a real feat. I was talking about sharingan genjustu anyway

 

[UncleSi]

It's a nice thread, but you only pointed out all the weaknesses in his game (all the openings) however he has many strengths to cover most of those up(thats where the misconception comes in on your part)! I dont know if people overestimate him as much as trust in kishi's writing the person who writes the manga has almost every single shinobi in it being scared or at the very least being respectful towards Itachi and his skillz...

I think Owarij already pointed out a lot of those strengths so I won't repeat but all in all I get what your going for It's just this could be said about all the characters it's Itachi's intangibles that make him geat such as his Intelligence and knowledge of his own abilities

 

[ixc]

Nice effort, but Itachi still rapes anyone with Tsukuyomi and his Genjutsu.

 

[Omnipotent]

Not can't kill, just not seen. It has not been seen, so it doesn't count as a real feat. I was talking about sharingan genjustu anyway

We haven't seen Hashirama beat EMS Madara.
Nor have we seen Tobirama create Edo Tensei.

OT: I can see you put a lot of effort into this thread

 

[Stark]

Minato fanboys always trying to degrade every character but their favorite, do one of these for Minato.. His Jutsu have more flaws than any I can think of tbh..

 

[ixc]

Minato fanboys always trying to degrade every character but their favorite, do one of these for Minato.. His Jutsu have more flaws than any I can think of tbh..

Minato and Jiraiya fans are always trying to make Itachi look weak against them when they're just jealous that Itachi rapes the, every hate thread towards Itachi can be considered jealousness.

 

[Bogard]

Itachi fans are always whining when someone talk about a different thread than Itachi owns all

 

[Sasukecursemark]

Your the one with misconceptions about itachi

1. His genjutsu can be used in battle proof:sasuke vs itachi
2.susanoo guards itachi's back so he isn't open from
Behind and since susanoo can move it can just turn around to use the mirror
3.sasuke used Enton on gaara not Amaterasu on gaara and that's the reason he blocked it
Only few people like minato,raikage,bm naruto and a few more can dodge or block it so out of the entire naruto verse only about 5 people can dodge/block it

 

[ixc]

Itachi fans are always whining when someone talk about a different thread than Itachi owns all

WHAT THE **** are you talking about? Why would Itachi fans whine if people are talking about a different thread other than an Itachi thread? What's the reason to whine then? I just wonder why everyone is TRYING to make Itachi look weak with these pathetic threads when you're obviously just jealous of how strong he is, because kids like you are desperately searching for pathetic reasons that do not even exist to why Itachi ''seems'' to be weak.

 

[YellowFlash1]

Whilst i appreciate what you are trying to do, you are biting more than you can chew.
Quiet a lot of things you state are incorrect, i can assure you.

Good thread though

EDIT: Hopefully this thread will get hot.

Meh i cannot wait so ill say this. First of all the finger genjutsu you are wrong. It requires 1 seal and 1 seal only and in that pages you uploaded only the ram seal was demonstrated unless you can show me another seal prepared by itachi. Secondly if you go back and watch the events in the genjutsu you'd note that itachi mentains this 1 seals (ram) when needed.

Secondly naruto has NEVER moved from his spot. You prolly got what you did about him aiming a rasengan at something from the anime, however that was the manga. Throughout the illusion naruto was ALWAYS beside chiyo and sakura and its this close proximity that was evident when they broke him out of the illusion. That genjutsu doesn't paralyse true because that isn't its aim however when you are in the illusion you have to break free to come back to your senses and what not.

Tsukuyomi is short range like any other sharingan genjutsu however there has never been a metre limit on it even in the manga so im not sure where you got 10 m from. You then went further to say its almost impossible to use it in battle. Erm i hope you know that itachi was having a shuriken assault with sasuke when he activated tsukuyomi but also he got bee in a sharingan genjutsu during their duel. If the proximity was there for a sharingan genjutsu, tsukuyomi is possible. You then forget that his karasu bunshin and kuchiyose karasu will allow him to for a brief moment distort an opponents eye sight and when they regain their eyesight, itachi wouldve closed the gap to use tsukuyomi.

There are some points on amaterasu i agree with however if you noticed even Ai had to look into sasuke's eyes to get the gist of amaterasu and go v2. If opponents are willing to do this against itachi to evade amaterasu then by all means.

As for the yata mirror i agree it doesnt give a 360 protection however itachi isn't vulnerable as you claim because susano is protecting him from behind

First of all the finger genjutsu you are wrong. It requires 1 seal and 1 seal only and in that pages you uploaded only the ram seal was demonstrated unless you can show me another seal prepared by itachi.

Where does it say it needs 1 seal? If you look at the manga you can clearly see that he does more than one hand seal?

Sakura was and lady chiyo were breaking him out of it.. They would obviously have been beside him even if he were to run of, because they would of had to use their chakra on him to break him from the genjutsu. However, you may be correct, never the less the point is that it takes time to prepare you haven't shown me anything that would indicate overwise... Why else would he have done all those seals? Surely your not saying kish demonstrated those signs in the manga for no reason?

Tsukuyomi.. It's a short range technique i already explained to you that i wasn't sure if that was entirely accurate, although it's around that range of 0-5 meters. Point is, he actually he has only did it at the start of the match... He never activated the Tsukuyomi untill he has him against the wall.... Where does it stated or show you that he did it while in the Shurikan battle? That's completely lies..

He actually performed his Tsukuyomi during the time he had him against the wall... (You may disagree, prove to me were he got him in it during the battle).. It never stated it's "Impossible" Near impossible as he's hasn't done it in the heat of battle... He used it when he has sasuke up against the wall... That's what i see from the manga...

I agree that Susanoo can protect him, although this thread was made to talk about those particular techniques, purely because people don't understand that they have limitations... You're telling me that it takes 1 hand sign for the "Finger genjutsu" yet it's been shown he did at least "5" over a period of 3 chapters, which shows me that he most prepare it. (Could be wrong, although it doesn't look like that)

This thread wasn't to talk about him in general, it's the point that people just think that he can't be touched purely because he has "Yata mirror" I'm merely stating that he can be touched if you have the ability to break his susanoo... People believe that if you have Yata mirror he can't be touched and is invincible...

Amaterasu activation chances air pressure before it attacks meaning that they have the ability to do something.., Not everyone, although i'm merely stating again that it's no impossible to dodge it. Again... This is down to people overrating it, in their debates making it out to be impossible.

 

[YellowFlash1]

Your the one with misconceptions about itachi

1. His genjutsu can be used in battle proof:sasuke vs itachi
2.susanoo guards itachi's back so he isn't open from
Behind and since susanoo can move it can just turn around to use the mirror
3.sasuke used Enton on gaara not Amaterasu on gaara and that's the reason he blocked it
Only few people like minato,raikage,bm naruto and a few more can dodge or block it so out of the entire naruto verse only about 5 people can dodge/block it

You don't understand the point in this thread.. This was to indicates the weakness in those particular attacks... Not his overall performance as a ninja. I understand that susanoo can defend him although, people seem to believe that because he has yata mirror it's impossible to touch him. I'm merely pointing out that if someone has the ability to smash susanoo, they can get to him wither or not he has the yata mirror..

Genjutsu yes.. Although people believe that it';s just a case of pointing a finger and it's game over.. This is in-accurate. People believe that he can point a finger and it's game over....

Enton is merely manipulation of amaterasu, the point i was making is that you can block it with putting something in it's path... Another thing that you can are incorrect about was it was actually amaterasu that he used against garra....

[video=youtube;fZC5brgaO_s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZC5brgaO_s[/video]

You can clearly see in that video that he uses his Left eye to cast an attack which is "Amatersau"

Blaze Release (炎遁, Enton; Viz "Inferno Style") is an advanced chakra nature. Sasuke Uchiha uses this technique when manipulating the unquenchable black flames of Amaterasu. C states that Sasuke manipulates the flames with his right Mangekyō Sharingan whereas he casts Amaterasu with his left.[1] It is unknown what elements this nature entails.

 

[FizzyDrink]

Whilst i appreciate what you are trying to do, you are biting more than you can chew.
Quiet a lot of things you state are incorrect, i can assure you.

Good thread though

EDIT: Hopefully this thread will get hot.

Meh i cannot wait so ill say this. First of all the finger genjutsu you are wrong. It requires 1 seal and 1 seal only and in that pages you uploaded only the ram seal was demonstrated unless you can show me another seal prepared by itachi. Secondly if you go back and watch the events in the genjutsu you'd note that itachi mentains this 1 seals (ram) when needed.

Secondly naruto has NEVER moved from his spot. You prolly got what you did about him aiming a rasengan at something from the anime, however that was the manga. Throughout the illusion naruto was ALWAYS beside chiyo and sakura and its this close proximity that was evident when they broke him out of the illusion. That genjutsu doesn't paralyse true because that isn't its aim however when you are in the illusion you have to break free to come back to your senses and what not.

Tsukuyomi is short range like any other sharingan genjutsu however there has never been a metre limit on it even in the manga so im not sure where you got 10 m from. You then went further to say its almost impossible to use it in battle. Erm i hope you know that itachi was having a shuriken assault with sasuke when he activated tsukuyomi but also he got bee in a sharingan genjutsu during their duel. If the proximity was there for a sharingan genjutsu, tsukuyomi is possible. You then forget that his karasu bunshin and kuchiyose karasu will allow him to for a brief moment distort an opponents eye sight and when they regain their eyesight, itachi wouldve closed the gap to use tsukuyomi.

There are some points on amaterasu i agree with however if you noticed even Ai had to look into sasuke's eyes to get the gist of amaterasu and go v2. If opponents are willing to do this against itachi to evade amaterasu then by all means.

As for the yata mirror i agree it doesnt give a 360 protection however itachi isn't vulnerable as you claim because susano is protecting him from behind

Well, this pretty much sums up the problems I have with this thread. I would also like to add what Owarij said, that Amaterasu cannot really be blocked...as in, you cannot see it coming and put up a barrier first. Amaterasu APPEARS on top of it's target. The scan provided showed enton, the manipulation of already existing flames, which CAN be blocked. A only dodged Amaterasu because he was already moving too fast for Sasuke to successfully focus on him.

But on the other hand, I do agree with the idea behind the thread. Itachi is VERY often overrated for his jutsu, and it truly is irritating. He can certainly be defeated by some shinobi, he is not unbeatable as many people say. But we must also understand that he most certainly is one of the most powerful ninja that we have seen.

 

[Draphsin]

I agree with this thread. Itachi isn't weak but he's highly overrated, even healthy Itachi isn't "all powerful".

 

[YellowFlash1]

Well, this pretty much sums up the problems I have with this thread. I would also like to add what Owarij said, that Amaterasu cannot really be blocked...as in, you cannot see it coming and put up a barrier first. Amaterasu APPEARS on top of it's target. The scan provided showed enton, the manipulation of already existing flames, which CAN be blocked. A only dodged Amaterasu because he was already moving too fast for Sasuke to successfully focus on him.

But on the other hand, I do agree with the idea behind the thread. Itachi is VERY often overrated for his jutsu, and it truly is irritating. He can certainly be defeated by some shinobi, he is not unbeatable as many people say. But we must also understand that he most certainly is one of the most powerful ninja that we have seen.

I've actually already showed in the above video that it was amaterasu that he used on gaara.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Still stronger and more useful than Minato.

 

[YellowFlash1]

It's a nice thread, but you only pointed out all the weaknesses in his game (all the openings) however he has many strengths to cover most of those up(thats where the misconception comes in on your part)! I dont know if people overestimate him as much as trust in kishi's writing the person who writes the manga has almost every single shinobi in it being scared or at the very least being respectful towards Itachi and his skillz...

I think Owarij already pointed out a lot of those strengths so I won't repeat but all in all I get what your going for It's just this could be said about all the characters it's Itachi's intangibles that make him geat such as his Intelligence and knowledge of his own abilities

I understand that he has allot of strengths.. The point in this thread was not to pick on him, but to get people to understand that his abillites are all there cracked up to be.

I'm sick of people just saying "Finger Jutsu GG" .. That's completely lies... It wasn't to talk about his overall game. Rather than those particular techniques.

The yara mirror was to show that if someone has the ability to break his Susanoo... Then they can get to him, wither or not he has the yata mirror up. People believe that as soon as he has yata mirror up he's invincible.