Itachi > Kakashi, Obito (no rinnengan), etc....

[Takos]

Itachi was all this time more powerful than Kakashi, Kakashi only recently became equal to Itachi, maybe just a little weaker.
As for Obito, he destroys both Kakashi and Itachi. (Not at once, though)

 

[KidGamer65]

This isn't a versus thread, then it had been posted elsewhere....

Your post is what is horrible. Go read what I actually wrote before you comment. My evidence was primary from the manga from what Obito said himself. I never once said Itachi could beat Obito, UNLESS he knew his secrets, as obito said............

No I'm pretty your post was piss poor....and Obito was referring to that moment not in a fight.

And that only FTG can hit him is so wrong as well. Just because Obito has MS doesn't mean Itachi can't get him in his genjutsu. Again you can say he is intangible, but Obito HAS to make a move at some point in that fight, you take it as if Obito is just watching while intangible, but that wont be the case... and if it was nobody could defeat obito, except you are kakashi or konan with preparations... mr. obvious... The moment he is tangible is just what itachi needs to foresee, and then he will have a chance, but I wont say it means he wins...

@bold: How do you think they are beating him now genius?

Just because Itachi can forsee it doesn't mean he can pull of an actual attack.

About the sword I already discussed that, and of course he can just escape through the ground, but he can't keep running, he's not a coward. He has a lot of faith in himself..

You speak like the sword is so fast...of course he can outrun it.

My thread was to prove that Itachi IS stronger than Obito in jutsu, intelligence and talent, AND that is what I proved. that also means he is stronger than Obito, but knowing Naruto even you should know that the weaker often wins.......

I wanted to say it, because I see idiots everywhere saying Obito was more skilled than itachi when he awoke MS, but that is a HUGE lie. And for last fact, don't forget that Obito has 10 more years than itachi when they are to fight, if they were same age, I would dare to say Itachi could kill him, but I wont..

Even if they were the same age the usual problem that people who take Itachi's side has to counter still comes up..

 

[thegame]

No I'm pretty your post was piss poor....and Obito was referring to that moment not in a fight.



@bold: How do you think they are beating him now genius?

Just because Itachi can forsee it doesn't mean he can pull of an actual attack.


You speak like the sword is so fast...of course he can outrun it.



Even if they were the same age the usual problem that people who take Itachi's side has to counter still comes up..

I haven't taken side in this. And you don't even comment on what my thread is about. I said Itachi is more talented, has more skills, and has more intelligence than Obito. Instead of matching Itachi vs Obito, it would be rather fun taking it like this, to measure who is strongest:

Itachi vs Minato
Obito vs Minato

Whoever does best would be the superior. If Obito just hides all fight long he wont get a single point. So who has highest chance for landing a hit on Minato? However, that would be a versus thread so no reason to debate that, cause frankly I don't care about your opinion, you obviously can't argue for anything except that Obito is intangible, or the sword isn't fast.

Let me tell you this. No swords are fast, it is the person who wields it. Itachi with 2 eyes can easily follow all obitos movements with his Susano, which is very fast, and yeah this can be found in the manga, just see his fight with sasuke... The counter for obito to this is to go underground, as a nice guy told me, and yeah I didn't think about it, but you can't remember everything. Anyway it was never an initial part of my thread to match them in actual combat, but people just keep doing it. It is only about what I said in the start..