Itachi just have the better arsenal, get over it.

[pateuvasiliu]

No, I pretty much said Itachi has no other way of beating him.

I didn't say his genjutsu is instawin. I said it's the only way of beating him.

 

[Dantee]

He has the ability to look at his body... He doesn't have to look directly in to his eye's..

Have you been listening? Kakashi,Naruto,Asuma etc all knew not to look at Itachi's eyes but only Guy was able to fight like this. It's canon not being able to look into a persons eyes already effects their ability to fight.

 

[MrSimple]

No, I pretty much said Itachi has no other way of beating him.

I didn't say his genjutsu is instawin. I said it's the only way of beating him.

You pretty much agreed with the OP.
Hence like it was already stated even if he overcome it it's another win for Itachi because he'd be the one more exhausted which Chatte already agreed for it. So there wasn't needed to be said again.

And again this is only his genjutsu, so no he can ended it the other way also.

Did you ask yself why his fans removing that possibiliy? Because they know the outcome of the genjutsu fight which happened with everyone else who doesn't had the ability to avoid it and defeat Itachi.

 

[Dantee]

This is common sense given that the Uchiha were known for their genjutsu prowess.

Common sense? Uchihas were known for sharigan genjutsu. Not every Uchiha is good with other forms of genjutsu.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato takes this.
Most of itachi's arsenal is dodge-able when facing minato and itachi's stronger techs take a lot out of him while minato's techs are based off of mass(ftg) or chakra control(rasengan).

Tsukyomi: is not a factor due to it being common knowledge not to look in an uchiha's eyes.(kakashi only looked cus he thought he can break out, sasuke was blinded by rage and didn't have much choice given how close itachi's face was to his. Kakashi knew better the second time around and sasuke broke it.)

itachi's finger jutsu would be a problem but it's basic genjutsu so minato (or someone kage level) should be able to break out.
minato high diff.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Kakashi only gets hit for the first time... If he survives, he manages to find a counter for that for sure...

And I agree that Itachi has the finest arsenal of all in NV but lot of it's come from sharingan..

It's not simple as you state that Minato's efforts won't make a difference, I believe that only Itachi has the biggest shot against Minato but that's 49-51%

Minato wins... Itachi's best case is that he successfully casts Tsukiyomi in the initial stages of the battle...

Edit: Itachi don't have KA
And Izanami isn't a battle justu...

Minato has no way in hell of winning. He has no way to get past Susanoo and he's going to be having to dodge Amaterasu a lot as well.

The OP didnt even mention Itachi's Katon and Suiton

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Minato takes this.
Most of itachi's arsenal is dodge-able when facing minato and itachi's stronger techs take a lot out of him while minato's techs are based off of mass(ftg) or chakra control(rasengan).

Tsukyomi: is not a factor due to it being common knowledge not to look in an uchiha's eyes.(kakashi only looked cus he thought he can break out, sasuke was blinded by rage and didn't have much choice given how close itachi's face was to his. Kakashi knew better the second time around and sasuke broke it.)

itachi's finger jutsu would be a problem but it's basic genjutsu so minato (or someone kage level) should be able to break out.
minato high diff.

What about Susanoo? How does Minato get passed that? Itachi put up Susanoo even faster than Sasuke's Kirin

 

[MrSimple]

Minato has no way in hell of winning. He has no way to get past Susanoo and he's going to be having to dodge Amaterasu a lot as well.

The OP didnt even mention Itachi's Katon and Suiton

Because it wasn't necessary.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Minato has no way in hell of winning. He has no way to get past Susanoo and he's going to be having to dodge Amaterasu a lot as well.

The OP didnt even mention Itachi's Katon and Suiton

And what can the Katon or Suiton do with Minato? He is damn fast...

 

[pateuvasiliu]

What about Susanoo? How does Minato get passed that? Itachi put up Susanoo even faster than Sasuke's Kirin

He doesn't have to. If Itachi activates Susanoo Minato enters bitch mode and FTGs around until Itachi runs out of chakra.

Actually using Susanoo would be a mistake against Minato. Itachi has to catch him in genjutsu.

 

[MrSimple]

He doesn't have to. If Itachi activates Susanoo Minato enters bitch mode and FTGs around until Itachi runs out of chakra.

Actually using Susanoo would be a mistake against Minato. Itachi has to catch him in genjutsu.

Which we're already discussed that it's going to happen as it went with every other shinobi out there against Itachi. So there's no such excuse for Minato just because someone loves him.
The outcome of the genjutsu fight is in a favor one way or another for Itachi.

Read the the posts first before typing...

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Which we're already discussed that it's going to happen as it went with every other shinobi out there against Itachi. So there's no such excuse for Minato just because someone loves him.
The outcome of the genjutsu fight is in a favor one way or another for Itachi.

Read the the posts first before typing...

I was replying to someone else.

 

[shelke]

Minato is seriously over-rated on this base. Other than FTG, and S/T barrier, his rasangan is borderline useless against Itachi. Even his FTG will be rendered useless as Itachi can simply use his finger to cast a powerful genjustu. And if he doesn't look at Itachi to fight, he gets hit by amatersu easily. Come on, let's not give minato TOO much credit here.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

He's not overrated as much as he is given the benefit of doubt. A sensible answer to this thread would be '' We haven't seen enough of Minato to make a valid decision ''.

You don't become Hokage with a glorified Shunshin and a rasengan. It's obvious he has more than that. We just don't know what and I really hope Kishi will use the next chapters to show what the Hokages can really do.

 

[MrSimple]

He's not overrated as much as he is given the benefit of doubt. A sensible answer to this thread would be '' We haven't seen enough of Minato to make a valid decision ''.

You don't become Hokage with a glorified Shunshin and a rasengan. It's obvious he has more than that. We just don't know what and I really hope Kishi will use the next chapters to show what the Hokages can really do.

Again you're repeating the other users, I already told ya that. As much as everyone else undarstand it, thus Minato's fans should calm down saying who's he's capable of beating or not.

If he doesn't have enough screen time, if he doesn't have a counter to a genjutsu specialist, they should stop saying that their favourite character could avoid that genjutsu fight when it was already given plenty of examples that's inevitable.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Mate I didn't read 8 pages so I have no idea what was posted here.

I have a life, you know? I can't afford reading 10 pages of blabbering everytime I need to explain something.

 

[MrSimple]

Mate I didn't read 8 pages so I have no idea what was posted here.

I have a life, you know? I can't afford reading 10 pages of blabbering everytime I need to explain something.

Then better stop already because it's pointless.

What was needed to be said is said. It's going to be closed.

 

[shelke]

He's not overrated as much as he is given the benefit of doubt. A sensible answer to this thread would be '' We haven't seen enough of Minato to make a valid decision ''.

You don't become Hokage with a glorified Shunshin and a rasengan. It's obvious he has more than that. We just don't know what and I really hope Kishi will use the next chapters to show what the Hokages can really do.

There is a high possibility that Minato became a hokage because of his FTG and S/T barrier, which earned him the yellow flash moniker. The manga doesn't say he even had any other powerful abilities other than his flash ability and the barrier. Add summoning to it, and that is just about it. Until the manga doesn't show them - which I highly doubt - I am inclined to believe that his move-set is complete.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

He has at least 1 nature transformation which was not shown.

That can mean dozens of jutsus.

His skill set is so -not- fully shown.