Itachi just have the better arsenal, get over it.

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Why do so many people think Izanami is useful in any other battle situation besides the Kabuto fight where he was killed several times in the process and needed help from Sasuke to activate it.
 

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It's been stated that he had many fight's with the third Raikage and not once did anyone lay a finger on him... Someone's speed who far surpasses Itachi's... The point i'm making is that the logic your using to prove that he's superior is nonsense.

base speed is good hirashin is what make him invincible without he isnt that good
 

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From what we have seen Minato use so far' I've concluded that he isn't strong enough to defeat Itachi. Let's take a look at Minato's abilities. He has flying thunder god technique level 1 and 2, he has a normal rasengan, he has sage mode(I know some of you might argue but just remember when the pa sage frog said Naruto had surpassed his sage mode predecessors, both Jiraiya and Minato were shown. And also Jiraiya taught Minato frog summoning so there was no way he wouldn't have learned Sage Mode), Frog summoning, Minato has that large transport seal that he used to suck tbb. He is also super smart in battle. That's it! All he has. Now on to Itachi. He has both water and fire ninjutsu skill, he is super talented in Taijutsu as shown in his battle against Sasuke, he has the Mangekyou Sharingan that bestows him with Tsukuyomi, Amateratsu, Susano,o which has the Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror, Izanagi and Izanami. He also has crow summonings and is super intelligent in battle as shown in his battle against Edo Nagato.


Now this is how Minato 'cannot' defeat Itachi: ftg is fast I agree but Itachi has amateratsu. After Itachi died against Sasuke his Amateratsu still went to look for the white snake(Orochimaru) and killed him. If that was done by a weak Itachi this shows that a healthy Itachi can move his amateratsu out of his line of sight. He could station amateratsu at every possible seal where Minato could appear. Moving on to Toad Summoning and Sage Mode. Itachi sealed a 'sannin's' 8 headed snake with the Totsuka Blade. If he could seal Orochimaru's snake why cann't he seal Minato's frogs. Sage Mode makes you strong and fast, but not faster than the speed of light. Amateratsu'll get him I'm sage mode. Rasengan is pointless against the Yata Mirror or even the normal walls of Susano'o. The only problem Itachi would have is the large transport seal but he could easily dodge that with his great speed as shown in his fight with Sasuke.

Now the ways Itachi could defeat Minato: There is no place in the manga that proves Minato is Immune to tsukuyomi let alone Itachi's MS tsukuyomi so don't say that tsukuyomi can't work on Minato. How Amateratsu would defeat Minato is stated above. The Totsuka blade isn't fast enough to seal Minato when he's using ftg or is in sage mode but that's why he has Amateratsu. And if 'all' these don't work Itachi could sacrifice en eye for Izanami and keep on replaying an event in Minato's head. Again I say that Itachi can defeat Minato based on what we have seen Minato do so far. And loojk at both their sacrifices. Minato sacrificed his life for his village when he could have used another seal to seal kyuubi. Kushina was even asking him why he didn't use another sealing jutsu. He wanted to die. How can u lleave your child all alone in this world? But still I commend his sacrifice, he saved konoha and was known as a hero. Now on to Itachi. Itachi killed his clan at just the age of thirteen. He lived knowing he would be regarded by the same village he saved as an outcast. Minato died knowing he would be regarded as a hero. Tell me, which is worse? Now please don't you Minato fanboys ever compare thesr two men. Because they aren't in the same League.
 

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Enjoy your last flaming time. We'll soon see who is stronger than who
 

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Why do so many people think Izanami is useful in any other battle situation besides the Kabuto fight where he was killed several times in the process and needed help from Sasuke to activate it.

minato fans think being a kage makes you immune to genjutsu without good explination.
and no evidence to back it up.

itachi caught an even greater genius in a genjutsu (oro) at age 11
 

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Speed is not a counter for itachi.

rememeber itachi doesn't have to move to win this battle. he doesn't have to touch minato to win this battle.
all he needs is momentery eye contact.

which minato will give him. just like the eye contact he gave to the man he thought was madara.

dont forget itachi dirty finger
 

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minato fans think being a kage makes you immune to genjutsu without good explination.

Nobody's immune but I don't think weak genjutsu's work on Kage nins, it's basics to be able to break genjutsu. The only one worth mentioning is Tsukyomi which he never uses right off the bat. I think most Itachi fans forget is Tsukyomi is a short range genjutsu he's practically had to be in someones face every time he's used it.
 

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base speed is good hirashin is what make him invincible without he isnt that good

Well, that your opinion. I believe that if he never invented FTG, then he would of build his character and fighting style around another set of techniques, or maybe specialized in something else.
 

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You have no prove to make such bold assumptions. That is nothing more than pure assumptions to try turn the tables in your favor. I could actually prove all the point's you mentioned wrong, or well give a good example to why most of them are ineffective, although i personally don't believe that you think, he can't get out of his Genjutsu...

You have to give me less or what you believe and more fact's....

Did you read the OP?

I have already stated that Kakashi, Sasuke, Orochimaru, Naruto, Bee, Kabuto did fail against any of his genjutsu.
So having Minato and his hype, "analyzing" his arsenal he basically lacks both power to overcome Itachi's defense and having no answer against genjutsu.

Itachi proved in any of his fights that NO ONE can prevent that jutsu, even if they did it it's thanks to their abilities.


Does Minato have such ability?, he doesn't have.
 
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FTG is not ment to break or overpower things, its purpose is to go around any defense with top speed, which clearly it can do.
Think of it in terms as this in an actual fist fight, the opponent is a raging big strong individual trying to tackle you. FTG is like the skinny fast guy who judo throws you, regardless of how big you are.
 

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Enjoy your last flaming time. We'll soon see who is stronger than who

in a cold day in hell lol . but ya u probaly right on one point. we;ll least get to see a new teck from minoto i hope.
 

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I see some people using Genjutsu as their sole argument, which is flawed since Minato knows to avoid eye sight.

Inb4 someone says he made eye contact with Tobi, remember that he was already actively controlling the Kyuubi via Genjutsu, so he can't put Minato into one also.
 

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Nobody's immune but I don't think weak genjutsu's work on Kage nins, it's basics to be able to break genjutsu. The only one worth mentioning is Tsukyomi which he never uses right off the bat. I think most Itachi fans forget is Tsukyomi is a short range genjutsu he's practically had to be in someones face every time he's used it.

Not true itachi can make his oponents commit suicide without relizing.
and becasue minato doesn't have a doujitsu he won't relize.
 

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We do not know full powers of Minato so we cannot Argue Kakashi>Itachi(Just for Flame wars).
 

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I will say this again. Anybody here that says Minato is stronger than Itachi is either a Minato fanboy or an Itachi hater. How does Minato wantto dodge Tsukuyomi? Itachi placed a 'perfect jinchuriki' which was Killer Bee in his genjutsu. No one can dodge his genjutsu except his own blood acording to him. Just accept it
 

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I see some people using Genjutsu as their sole argument, which is flawed since Minato knows to avoid eye sight.

Inb4 someone says he made eye contact with Tobi, remember that he was already actively controlling the Kyuubi via Genjutsu, so he can't put Minato into one also.

Minato does not know how to avoid eye contact fool.
and more imporatnly if he does look away from itachis eyes.

he's getting amerterasu to the face.
 

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Did you read the OP?

I have already stated that Kakashi, Sasuke, Orochimaru, Naruto, Bee, Kabuto did fail against any of his genjutsu.
So having Minato and his hype, "analyzing" his arsenal he basically lacks both power to overcome Itachi's defense and having no answers against genjutsu.

Itachi proved in any of his fight that NO ONE can prevent that jutsu, even if they did it it's thanks to their abilities.
Does Minato have it, he doesn't.

You can't base your whole entire argument on how he fight's other people. Every characters has different strength's, regardless if they all fell under genjutsu, doesn't mean to say that Minato will fall of it.

He didn't prove anything.... You can escape his genjutsu, it's not impossible.

What do you mean thanks to their abilities? Minato has great abilities. He was Hokage when the Uchiha clan were alive and kicking, i can guarantee that he knew all about them.

You're not even giving me anything substantial.
 

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Not true itachi can make his oponents commit suicide without relizing.
and becasue minato doesn't have a doujitsu he won't relize.

It is true it's basics that all ninja's learn how to deal with genjutsu, in part 1 Shikamaru and Sakura released genjutsu and Naruto learned with Jiriya.

If we're talking about that finger jutsu, Naruto didn't try to commit suicide it was in the genjutsu he nearly broke out of it and he sucks at chakra control to break it.

Minato does not know how to avoid eye contact fool.
and more imporatnly if he does look away from itachis eyes.

he's getting amerterasu to the face.

It's common sense to avoid eye contact, Chiyo explained it. You think Minato can't dodge amaterasu when A could?
 

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obiot doesnt have much genjutsu skill any ways only person he used genjutsu on is yagura
 

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Not to mention the finger genjutsu is proabaly to painfully paralysing for blondaime to use the handseal to break out of.
 
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