Itachi isn't a genius

[SadSasuke]

Seriously, all he's done throughout the entire series is literally fail. Give me 10 reasons as to why he's a genius. Even he acknowledged he's a failure.

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[LordDarui]

Just because someone fails. Doesn't mean they're not a genius.

 

[HiddenSound]

Genjutsu master
Ninjutsu master
Taijutsu master
Helluva lot of knowledge (Izanami, Sage Mode etc.)
Mangekyō master
Superb planner
5/5 in intelligence in the databook
Incredibly wise
Unparalleled Shinobi
Excellent analyst

Itachi is a genius.

 

[Filo]

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You are forgetting OP

 

[Fair Warning]

Itachi killed innocent children, innocent women, pregnant women, grandparents, possibly animals.

He then leads his brother down a psycotic life of torment and pain, almost being absorbed by an evil villain

then comes back, only to confirm all the shit he did wrong

and did not fully kill Orochimaru, someone who is going for dat uchiha ass

Genjutsu master
Ninjutsu master
Taijutsu master
Helluva lot of knowledge (Izanami, Sage Mode etc.)
Mangekyō master
Superb planner
5/5 in intelligence in the databook
Incredibly wise
Unparalleled Shinobi
Excellent analyst

Itachi is a genius.

because of given power
Hiruzen Katon > Itachi Katon, Naruto bunshin > Itachi bunshin
Gai, Lee, Sasuke, Ay > Itachi
Anyone with mangekyou masters it, the powers basically appear
Minato planned out 16 years and it didnt fail, Itachi failed
databook is crap
Wisdom comes with age, he was just keen
can say that about alot
Minato better anaylst, discovered and countered Obitos kamui, countered madaras orbs with no arms.

/you

 

[Filo]

Itachi killed innocent children, innocent women, pregnant women, grandparents, possibly animals.

He then leads his brother down a psycotic life of torment and pain, almost being absorbed by an evil villain

then comes back, only to confirm all the shit he did wrong

and did not fully kill Orochimaru, someone who is going for dat uchiha ass

Argument invalid. All those people would have been eradicated by Konoha in the Coup De tat if Itachi didn't do it himself. I think it is more honorable for a clan to be extinguished by one of their own who takes full responsibility for the burden

 

[HiddenSound]

because of given power
Hiruzen Katon > Itachi Katon, Naruto bunshin > Itachi bunshin
Gai, Lee, Sasuke, Ay > Itachi
Anyone with mangekyou masters it, the powers basically appear
Minato planned out 16 years and it didnt fail, Itachi failed
databook is crap
Wisdom comes with age, he was just keen
can say that about alot
Minato better anaylst, discovered and countered Obitos kamui, countered madaras orbs with no arms.

/you

No
Itachi holds the best Fire Release Jutsu: Amaterasu. Also, just because others are better than him in a Jutsu, doesn't mean he doesn't excel in those Jutsus, don't play dumb.
Itachi managed to keep his Mangekyō working his whole life, something Sasuke and Madara couldn't do. He is more impressive than those two with the Mangekyō.
Just because his plan failed doesn't mean he's a bad planner. He had Sasuke fooled most of his life after all. And if Minato never failed, he and Kushina would still be alive.
Not necessarily.
And he had as much wisdom as a Hokage before he was 10.
No you can't.
And Itachi figured out the Rinnegan's shared vision almost immediately.

lol

 

[Fair Warning]

Argument invalid. All those people would have been eradicated by Konoha in the Coup De tat if Itachi didn't do it himself. I think it is more honorable for a clan to be extinguished by one of their own who takes full responsibility for the burden

Minato stated himself that he would have found a better way to stop the massacre.

where is itachi super genius when he needs it, why not just put danzo in genjutsu and kill him

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Itachi killed innocent children, innocent women, pregnant women, grandparents, possibly animals.

He then leads his brother down a psycotic life of torment and pain, almost being absorbed by an evil villain

then comes back, only to confirm all the shit he did wrong

and did not fully kill Orochimaru, someone who is going for dat uchiha ass

Tell me which Uchiha was pregnant during the masscre? It was shown Sasuke was the only child in the Uchiha at the time. He kiiled them because he was ordered to he stopped a war by doing this, Hashirama even said he would strike down anyone who threatens the village. And again half f those people weren't innocent everyone but the animals and the children (Sasuke) were guilty and apart of the Coupe.


He protected his brother and made him strong in order to protect him.


So what if he didn't kill Oro that was Hizuren's problem.​

 

[From the Dark Spire]

because of given power
Hiruzen Katon > Itachi Katon, Naruto bunshin > Itachi bunshin
Gai, Lee, Sasuke, Ay > Itachi
Anyone with mangekyou masters it, the powers basically appear
Minato planned out 16 years and it didnt fail, Itachi failed
databook is crap
Wisdom comes with age, he was just keen
can say that about alot
Minato better anaylst, discovered and countered Obitos kamui, countered madaras orbs with no arms.

/you

Quit being a damn fanboy, everything that was said about Itachi was true. Explain to me how your response was necessary.

 

[HiddenSound]

Minato stated himself that he would have found a better way to stop the massacre.

where is itachi super genius when he needs it, why not just put danzo in genjutsu and kill him

Yeah, let an Uchiha assassinate a Konoha Elder during that time and just see how that plays out :|

 

[LordDarui]

Minato stated himself that he would have found a better way to stop the massacre.

where is itachi super genius when he needs it, why not just put danzo in genjutsu and kill him

Minato couldn't walk a mile in Itachi's shoes.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

because of given power
Hiruzen Katon > Itachi Katon, Naruto bunshin > Itachi bunshin
Gai, Lee, Sasuke, Ay > Itachi
Anyone with mangekyou masters it, the powers basically appear
Minato planned out 16 years and it didnt fail, Itachi failed
databook is crap
Wisdom comes with age, he was just keen
can say that about alot
Minato better anaylst, discovered and countered Obitos kamui, countered madaras orbs with no arms.

/you

When did Minato counter ANYTHING of Madara's arsenal? And if you mean when the orb was coming towards them and KAKASHI threw Minato's Kunai, well I wouldn't be so sure of that... Gai jumped in and kicked it away.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

because of given power
Hiruzen Katon > Itachi Katon, Naruto bunshin > Itachi bunshin
Gai, Lee, Sasuke, Ay > Itachi
Anyone with mangekyou masters it, the powers basically appear
Minato planned out 16 years and it didnt fail, Itachi failed
databook is crap
Wisdom comes with age, he was just keen
can say that about alot
Minato better anaylst, discovered and countered Obitos kamui, countered madaras orbs with no arms.

/you

Given power by who?



Atermatsu was said to be the highest level fire relase meaning Itachi's Katon>Hiruzen's Katon.

Once again Ayy taijustu isn't dat good if he has to usee ninjustu to enhance it and he's better than Sasuke at Tai, Gai is better than Itachi at Tai bit to be a Tai mater you don't have to be the best Tai user in the manga.


No not anyone with MS masters it the way Itachi did.



Minato planned what he didn't plan shit he just though Naruto might need a power up he obviously didn't think about Naruto being neglected and shunned by everybody in the village which later leads to his unhealthy obsession with Sasuke.



You say the databook is crap but it's more accurate than your opinion.


Go on.


Itachi figured out the weakness of the Edo Tense and CT. And Minato after fighting gor awhile figured out Madara's black orbs after nearly being killed by it and after fighting to Jubbi jins. And he would of died if not for Tobirama.​

 

[Fair Warning]

When did Minato counter ANYTHING of Madara's arsenal? And if you mean when the orb was coming towards them and KAKASHI threw Minato's Kunai, well I wouldn't be so sure of that... Gai jumped in and kicked it away.

Minato analysed Madaras ability, its weakness, and how to counter it in like 60 sseconds

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Countered Kamui in minutes

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[Gaara Of The Death]

Minato analysed Madaras ability, its weakness, and how to counter it in like 60 sseconds

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Countered Kamui in minutes

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After seeing it how many times....​

 

[HiddenSound]

Minato analysed Madaras ability, its weakness, and how to counter it in like 60 sseconds

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Countered Kamui in minutes

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That really is totally irrelevant. Even if Minato is the better analyst, which is obviously debatable, it doesn't mean Itachi is not analytical. Please stop that.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

Itachi killed innocent children, innocent women, pregnant women, grandparents, possibly animals.

He then leads his brother down a psycotic life of torment and pain, almost being absorbed by an evil villain

then comes back, only to confirm all the shit he did wrong

and did not fully kill Orochimaru, someone who is going for dat uchiha ass

Had there been a coup d'etait (that probably would have led to the involvement of other villages and another World War), more people would have died.
Yes he was wrong in this area, but really only because he underestimated how obsessed with him Sasuke was.
Any mature person is capable of admitting their mistakes. It's only immature people who pretend they made none.
Nobody has yet. Nobody can. That man is like a virus.

 

[the last uchiha]

Seriously, all he's done throughout the entire series is literally fail. Give me 10 reasons as to why he's a genius. Even he acknowledged he's a failure.

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1. youngest anbu
2. genuis above all over uchiha (stated in both anime and manga)
3.shuriken jutsu is above normal
4. mind of a kage age 7
5. head of anbu age 13
6. solo king
7. fooled the whole ninja world into thinkning he was evil
8.sealed multiple kage level ninja ect nagato orochimaru
9. talked sasuke into then out of being a pshychopath
10 solo's your fave

 

[Chie]

Minato couldn't walk a mile in Itachi's shoes.

Minato's main weakness is that he's over-emotional. So no, he wouldn't have been able to bear the burden Itachi did at all.

Minato stated himself that he would have found a better way to stop the massacre.

Minato isn't the most humble hokage though, that goes to Hashirama. Minato wouldn't have been able to stop it, he had a total disconnect with the Uchiha. He didn't even sense an evil presence outside when Kushina was having Naruto. Itachi as a 12 year old located Obito years later and was the only one in Konoha to do so, while not being a sensor. Minato is a good character, but at times he is cocky in the same ways Naruto is.

ot: The manga praises him as a genius and prodigy. Also, what were his goals in life? To protect Konoha from war while he was alive and for Sasuke to become stronger. They both succeeded. The only part that failed was Sasuke becoming a bad guy, but that is not mainly Itachi's fault and now at this point Sasuke is no longer a bad guy after the conversation he had from Hashirama/Itachi. Sasuke is on the path to redemption. At the end of the day, Itachi actually succeeded more than Madara, Obito, and Sasuke did. He's just very humble about it.