Itachi Is Wrong & A Fool

[Im Still Robin]

READ TO FULLY UNDERSTAND

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Short and simple, nothing big, if you still don't understand when you're finished reading then I'll gladly tell you in detail.

Lets begin -​

Firstly Itachi is wrong. I really don't like that Kishi is trying to make him the center of everything that's right to become a hokage. Having the knowledge of one, and being the opposite isn't smart at all.

I know he said he did it to protect the village, but why is it "wrong" to actually do what he did inside the villiage? It isn't wrong, its actually smart. Instead of lying and laughing in the faces of people and letting your "Danzo" do work outside isn't peace. Its a lie.

Itachi is wrong. His methods were right however.

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Naruto is also wrong (and the people who agree with his wordings and such) to compare Itachi's words to Sasuke's method. Look here where the quotes Itachi (or naruto brings up from the flashback). Sasuke is like Indra which is alone, and always have been even when he was with Team 7 -

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Sasuke is using Itachi's methods, but not his or Naruto's ideals of hokage. He's actually using Hashirama's ideal which if you consider it wrong, then you're wrong because the alliance already agreed here! -

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We're not even sure if Naruto wants to unite the nations or not...he just simply wants to be hokage for world "peace" which is impossible as Sasuke said. There's no such thing, but to at least come realistically close uniting the nations and doing as Sasuke said is best.

Obviously he isn't gonna pull a Gol D. Roger execution like an idiot in front of everyone. They are ninjas, regardless death is needed. He also doesn't mean in the village walls, but enemies outside the villiage who still want to be bad/rouge.

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Also this, like Sasuke once again said...he's different, but look here as Naruto tries to compare his words/ideals on how sasuke is "wrong" and Itachi's ideals to how he went wrong/failed -

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That being after, Itachi basically lied to Naruto here! -

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If everything else he really said was a lie, this chapter leading all the way to the end was true. Itachi indeed truly loved his brother at the bottom of his heart, and as Sasuke/Itachi stated themselves about the village -

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Itachi loved the village more than anything, but truly nothing compared to his baby brother, not even the village. He could have easily killed sasuke long ago. Knowing his intentions and such, yet he didn't/couldn't because he's that important.

Sasuke won the argument about the village, and his ideals of hokage. Naruto only truly problem is the beasts and the kages as stated here -

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HOWEVER! ​

There won't be a winner. Sasuke won't lose, and Naruto won't lose, and most certainly neither of them are going to become hokage.

Neither of them have what it takes, and actually no one in general have what it takes, because people can't be controlled, and neither can darkness.

World peace isn't attainable no matter what happens or who dies.

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Thread entirely unbiased, and my opinion which is more or less accurate depending on if you're logical, illogical, a fanboy, no a fanboy, a flapper, not a flapper, etc.

:bye:

 

[NukaCola]

So, in other words you are right and everyone that disagrees is wrong.

 

[hamandiali]

Poor kids, as if they're proving themselves right by not reading...

 

[Trúth]

I read it, but I don't understand what exactly Itachi was wrong about in your opinion. Care to explain fully?

 

[NineSNS]

Itachi's mistake: letting Sasuke live

 

[Im Still Robin]

I read it, but I don't understand what exactly Itachi was wrong about in your opinion. Care to explain fully?

Indeed.

He was wrong about the fact that he knows nothing about being a hokage. No one truly does.

Even Sasuke ideals are wrong...Minato's, Hashirama's, Naruto's, etc.

No one knows...actually they do know. Its just that there's no way to attain true world peace.

You can talk all day, but the actions have proven to be little to none.

 

[KingHashirama]

Ehhhh no broskie.

Sasuke is using Madara's ideals (Think they can do everything on their own , idealistS)




Naruto is using Hashirama's ideals. Hashirama knows he can't do everything on his own (since its the reality of things, a realist)

 

[Im Still Robin]

Itachi's mistake: letting Sasuke live

No, then Naruto would just be doing what he's doing now...actually if he wins, get all the bijuu's fully chakra and everything he's actually gonna do what Madara was doing.

Sasuke and Naruto have power, but not entirely too much. As the sage said its impossible to control all the power.

 

[Bling Kai]

I read dis was some good stuff plus rep

 

[NukaCola]

Indeed.

He was wrong about the fact that he knows nothing about being a hokage. No one truly does.

Even Sasuke ideals are wrong...Minato's, Hashirama's, Naruto's, etc.

No one knows...actually they do know. Its just that there's no way to attain true world peace.

You can talk all day, but the actions have proven to be little to none.

So, Hashirama doesn't what is a Hokage despite the fact that he created the title?

 

[Mad Daz]

Some people are born stupid, and growing up seems to have made it even worse in your case. You dont see a reading comprehension level so low often.

 

[The Masked Sage]

I care to hear what you disagree on.

I think Itachi did know what a Hokage truly is to some extent, but not fully

 

[Im Still Robin]

Ehhhh no broskie.

Sasuke is using Madara's ideals (Think they can do everything on their own , idealistS)




Naruto is using Hashirama's ideals. Hashirama knows he can't do everything on his own (since its the reality of things, a realist)

Did you not see when Itachi said he tried to do everything on his own?

Madara only wanted genjutsu which is stupid...far more stupid than anything because its not real.

Naruto is using Itachi's opinion on what he should personally do, and sasuke is using what itachi failed at and is trying to correct his mistakes.

More or less you can say Naruto is doing more than just hashirama's "will" though. You can say Nagato, Jman, Obito, etc.

 

[Tennis Robot]

I don't see how you can claim to be unbiased, and, quite honestly, doing so delegitimizes your entire thread.

 

[Mikeyofthesharingan]

Dont really understand what youre saying. More detail please?

 

[Trúth]

Indeed.

He was wrong about the fact that he knows nothing about being a hokage. No one truly does.

Even Sasuke ideals are wrong...Minato's, Hashirama's, Naruto's, etc.

No one knows...actually they do know. Its just that there's no way to attain true world peace.

You can talk all day, but the actions have proven to be little to none.

"A good Hokage" is entirely subjective. Most consider Hiruzen to be one while I consider him to be the worst after Tobirama.

Attaining world peace isn't impossible in fiction. As far as Itachi being wrong or a fool goes, I disagree.

 

[Im Still Robin]

So, Hashirama doesn't what is a Hokage despite the fact that he created the title?

He failed, knowing and taking action to actually be beyond a hokage is what sasuke is trying to do.
A hokage have to make sacrifices. He did, yet at the same time failed.

Some people are born stupid, and growing up seems to have made it even worse in your case. You dont see a reading comprehension level so low often.

Do you wish to insult me, try to disagree and get owned again, or all of the above?
We all know you're a naruto flapper. This isn't against Naruto dude.

And before you try to sasuke I like sasuke or whatever...I don't. Itachi clearly failed, and he admitted it. So are you still gonna be in denial?

I think Itachi did know what a Hokage truly is to some extent, but not fully

Oh, yeah man so does Naruto, sasuke, etc. Its just no one can truly succeed as one. By attain true world peace.

 

[Tennis Robot]

Attaining world peace isn't possible at all...fiction or not.
Well I guess you can end the series showing people or characters happy and stuff, but really..no.

The only thing stopping world peace is people's belief that it is unattainable.

 

[Trúth]

Attaining world peace isn't possible at all...fiction or not.
Well I guess you can end the series showing people or characters happy and stuff, but really..no.

That's what I meant Lol

 

[Baldara Uchiha]

Of course youre gonna have the people with the Itachi avatars say otherwise. Good thread bruh, ignore these lame-o's and +rep ))