[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[Swizzik]

im a big itachi fan but nagato was being controlled while itachi had his free will, so i dont think you can say itachi is stronger based off of that battle

Wouldnt this give Itachi more creative and thinking ability....

 

[laxus]

im a big itachi fan but nagato was being controlled while itachi had his free will, so i dont think you can say itachi is stronger based off of that battle

this doesn't make that much sense he had help, itachi would have most likely died going against nagato he needed naruto and bee's help.
some people say that nagato overrated but you guys have to relize his abilities and chakra
it's abnormal
someone also says that naruto has more chakra than nagato i think that's false
if you look at the battles nagato went threw and still has surprising stamina entering konoha to face naruto.
naruto would have ran out of chakra already, even though naruto has alot because of the nine tails, if you look at the pain vs naruto, naruto was tired they both were
naruto was tired because of pain
pain was tired because of all of his dozens of battles

 

[PositiveEmotions]

sorry about this man

its cool man this people do not know the meaning of UNDERSTANDING

 

[arv993]

im saying that the nine tails knew the victim and that wasn't distracted, all of it intent's were killing, if it really did shoot everywhere it would have shot down sakura and the other long ago it had some sense because it has a jinchurikki host and notice the blast were all in pains terrortory so he was force to dodge, take the hit,and use his ability.
it will only attack when someone gets in it's way if you look at the 4 tail incident.

sakura was not close to the beast and what ur arguing is different from what i am trying to say i was proving ppl that it is not as smart as a regular shiniobi which is ridiculous. it hurts anyone in its way like how sakura was when naruto was fighting oro. i just said it does not control its powers and shoots around in its area but its main target was tendo pain i never disagreed with u on that but all i am saying it is not as smart as a regular shinobi and does not conserve its chakra like some ppl said.

 

[khaydz5]

It's like I wud be posting dis every 7 pages though arv told me not 2. I can't just take it when I see dis guys saying Nagato wud win with no reasons 2 back them up. I originally made dis thread 2 silence Nagato fans thinking most Nagato fans wud follow me n agree but it seems their foolish pride has covered their ability 2 think clearly.
Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts.

SORRY ARV.

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this BS again dude?? I though you learned your lesson when I countered all your "facts" lol

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ok I don't wanna answer this coz it might break your heart well anyway this are not facts coz clearly its all speculation coming from an average itachi fanboy.

1. Tsukuyomi was never an option from the last battle we saw, thus give us a hint that itachi might know it wont work(he's smart after all, you said that urself). Sound based genjutsu is not the same as visual genjutsu. As ma and pa frog said, their sound genjutsu is their strongest genjutsu attack. So thinking if one attack works why wont the other is a fail.

2. If there is one attack of itachi that is completely useless against nagato its Amaterasu. Why? we all saw how he repelled the fire by shinra tensei, and everyone will agree that since its a ninjutsu it can be absorb by preta path. again, itachi is wise that he did not use amaterasu to attack nagato the second time coz he already know it wont work.

3. Totsuka sword is the only way itachi can beat nagato honestly. but this one is still debatable coz nagato will not easily fall for a cheapshot if its one on one and he is focused fighting itachi and not taking 3 most powerful ninja. It can be shinra tensei'd, susanoo itself is vulnerable to chibaku tensei.

4. Yata mirror cannot block any attack, its vulnerable to banshou tenin,shinra tensei and chibaku tensei. If you think with sense, how can a shield block a non projectile attack like chibaku? it will just be pulled right in the center with susanoo and eventually squished. Again, Itachi did not use yata mirror to chibaku tensei coz itachi is much wiser than you that he knows yata mirror CANNOT block chibaku tensei.. not to mention, its a chakra thus can be absorb by preta path.bad news for you huh?

5. LOL, the magatama, why itachi fanboys always exaggerate things? that long range attack of itachi can't destroy chibaku tensei alone, itachi is WISE he knew he cannot destroy it himself that is why he ask for it, as simple as that dude. Again itachi is smart he knew even if he hit the core repeatedly its just a waste, do you actually believe magatama is stronger than TBB and Naruto's rasenshuriken?! lol clearly a hardcore itachi fanboy.

*using 3 magatama to break chibaku is just dumb dude and doesn't sound like itachi,he'll ran out of chakra plus he might got squished before he can fire 3 magatamas. I repeat, itachi is smart, he knows exactly what to do in that shituation he cant afford to waste any time or else they're doomed.

6. lastly, coming right from you itachi is smart. HE knew he cannot take nagato alone, that is why he let naruto and bee fight nagato first in order to think and come up with a plan. If he knew he can take nagato alone, he should have said to naruto that just to go on and leave nagato to him. Logical isn't it?

 

[arv993]

this BS again dude?? I though you learned your lesson when I countered all your "facts" lol

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ok I don't wanna answer this coz it might break your heart well anyway this are not facts coz clearly its all speculation coming from an average itachi fanboy.

well u kno that sword wud likely work since it is 1v1 battle its fast and itachi limits nagato's eye sight with his shurikens and narrows his eyesight meaning he can only see like the regular person and he has the lack of mobility and this makes it really easy for the sword to get him. yes yaska right now is unknown in power so we can't say how effective it is if itachi uses it more than once. chibaku tensei is not a fast attack and in a 1v1 nagato cannot pull it off becos itachi can just seal him. shinra tensei can be blocked it is just a force that pushes u back. Nagato won't win for these reasons itachi can easily blind his other sights and can get nagato with his sword without him even noticing and nagato also lacks speed or movements also making it easier.

 

[laxus]

you guys keep going back and forth of who would win

 

[Swizzik]

one word.........tie

 

[PositiveEmotions]

well u kno that sword wud likely work since it is 1v1 battle its fast and itachi limits nagato's eye sight with his shurikens and narrows his eyesight meaning he can only see like the regular person and he has the lack of mobility and this makes it really easy for the sword to get him. yes yaska right now is unknown in power so we can't say how effective it is if itachi uses it more than once. chibaku tensei is not a fast attack and in a 1v1 nagato cannot pull it off becos itachi can just seal him. shinra tensei can be blocked it is just a force that pushes u back. Nagato won't win for these reasons itachi can easily blind his other sights and can get nagato with his sword without him even noticing and nagato also lacks speed or movements also making it easier.

dude i keep telling you the sword might not work on nagato because he can repel it some how

 

[Renon]

1. If Nagato cud use any jutsu he wishes Naruto, Bee n Itachi wudda been dead by now so stop saying nonsense. How do u know it was Nagato who put up d Barriers. It cud be Sasori, Itachi or other Akatsuki members. Use ur brain it is said in d manga dat Itachi's Tsukuyomi can only be countered by his own flesh n Blood. U don't know dat d Rinnegan is immune 2 visual genjutsu. Itachi has FINGER GENJUTSU. So d rinnegan is also immune 2 finger genjutsu. If so then u're a naive Nagato fan.
2. Amateratsu burnt Nagato b4 he cud do anything. Itachi cud redirect d Amateratsu 2 his face, legs or even stomach. U didn't state any point 2 backup this fact.
3. Totsuka Blade is faster than dat other seal whatever u call it so it's pointless. Cud Nagato use dat technique of his 2 seal Itachi as quickly as Itachi seaaled him? NO!
4. D Yata Mirror Deflects ALL things. It wasn't said it cud deflect SOME things. GET IT INTO YOUR SKULL!!! If Nagato cud use Shinra Tensei 2 clear Susano'o why did he bother using Chikudan Tensei? A jutsu dat carries more chakra n time 2 perform.
5.Itachi cud but chose NOT TO. U cud see dat after d fight Itachi said he was goung 2 seal d Edo Tenseis. Kabuto is smarter than Nagato. Did u see how he planned his mode of capturing Naruto n Bee. Nagato cudn't have done a better job if he was in dat situation.
6. Cud Nagato have thought as far as Itachi did. He is smarter than Nagato. If u don't agree 2 dat then I wud hav 2 say dat u are d most biased fan in Naruto base.
After all these FACTS I want 2 say d reasons u gave 2 try n counter my previous facts were useless, irrelevant n lame. VERY LAME otherwise I wud not have been able 2 counter them so easily

rofl mad much, some of what I said I am not a big fan of Nagato but i find your argument funny and lame and you are really showing desperation by calling me out when I can easily give you a source not the greatest source but I did make take some time to look it up myself but umm well I am not level 10 so I can't post the link.. really that kinda upsets me that I can't just look it up in the Manga hell even the Naruto wiki crap if you really want to get some sources.

Onto point #2 what was your point? so he burnt a zombie hands off with Amateratsu and so? thats was the basis of my point I hope you weren't thinking that was deciding factor in this battle cause if so your already hopeless. I mean they are zombies that can regenerate o shit.. again your point made no sense what so ever.

Point #3 Okay so what proof do you have that it is faster.. again speculation.. I don't really doubt it could be possibly faster than the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path.. but umm hello did you see how devastating his move was when he released it.. okay so again you really don't much of anything besides well.. nothing actually. If those 2 actually fought in the begin with before being killed and becoming zombies I really doubt Itachi would stand on equal ground against Nagato and his 6 paths of pain. That is all there is to it. One Itachi was very ill.. and he does not have nearly as much as Chakra 2 keep up with Nagato that long to even find out where the main body is. And if he did he would still have to fight it out with the 6 paths not something easy to overcome. Also I don't think he would have known the secret about it fast enough hell Jiraiya didn't figure out in time and he was no idiot.

Onto Point #4 Oops I said deflect I should have said absorbed liked it made any diffrence in the situation you were talking about they were both zombies get it through your skull o wait that is your line. Umm okay how long can Itachi sustain Susanoo? Yeah exactly not very long nuff said. Good luck with that one bud.

Onto Point #5 funny again speculation based on what? All you did was acknowledge that Itachi Chakra pool is limited lol good job and then said he was smarter cause he waited it out.. okay cool umm so what? Pain pretty much effectively destoyed a god damn city and Itachi accomplishment was massacre his clan while they were sleeping really dude.. okay maybe Itachi is smarter but umm again Nagato isnt dumb as a rock either.

Onto Point #6 I agreed he was smart maybe even smarter okay.. Shikamaru is smart 2 but really I know not the best example but your making Nagato seem like he is a total moron like Mike Tyson.

O btw funny how you called me a Nagato fanboy.. I actually prefer Itachi but I am not dumb enough to believe Itachi could pwn the crap out of Nagato.. it would be awesome 2 see them actually fight it out the way we wanted 2 but obviously this chapter was not about Itachi vs Nagato sorry it doesn't prove crap and it will leave everything up to guess what? Speculation.

 

[Swizzik]

dude i keep telling you the sword might not work on nagato because he can repel it some how

maybe he can absorb the chakra from the sword?

 

[laxus]

rhe sword is chakra yes he can absorb it.

 

[Renon]

awww don't break his heart

 

[ReLax -]

this doesn't make that much sense he had help, itachi would have most likely died going against nagato he needed naruto and bee's help.
some people say that nagato overrated but you guys have to relize his abilities and chakra
it's abnormal
someone also says that naruto has more chakra than nagato i think that's false
if you look at the battles nagato went threw and still has surprising stamina entering konoha to face naruto.
naruto would have ran out of chakra already, even though naruto has alot because of the nine tails, if you look at the pain vs naruto, naruto was tired they both were
naruto was tired because of pain
pain was tired because of all of his dozens of battles

Nagato is strong we all know that but your guys judgmental on this battle is too one sided.

We seen what Nagato is capable of, but we have yet to see a healthy Itachi or even him in a real battle as so far he hasn't been in any where he is in a situation to either win or kill. ATM no one has even answered when they have seen Itachi serious.

I have already said this battle can go either way but I'd put it down as a draw and I can give a rats ass what any Nagato or Itachi fan have against my opinion.

 

[Renon]

Well I wasn't trying to be judgmental just countering some of the things that were said.. It just don't think Itachi will just wtf pwn Nagato as some others do. All that was said is pretty much speculation when it comes to an outcome between them. Allot of the outcomes will mostly be because of some outside factor or situation that will determine who would win... Nagato is very powerful and Itachi is very cunning.. who knows honestly.

 

[laxus]

Well I wasn't trying to be judgmental just countering some of the things that were said.. It just don't think Itachi will just wtf pwn Nagato as some others do. All that was said is pretty much speculation when it comes to an outcome between them. Allot of the outcomes will mostly be because of some outside factor or situation that will determine who would win... Nagato is very powerful and Itachi is very cunning.. who knows honestly.

well said

 

[Lord Snow]

nagato would beat him anyday

 

[ReLax -]

Well I wasn't trying to be judgmental just countering some of the things that were said.. It just don't think Itachi will just wtf pwn Nagato as some others do. All that was said is pretty much speculation when it comes to an outcome between them. Allot of the outcomes will mostly be because of some outside factor or situation that will determine who would win... Nagato is very powerful and Itachi is very cunning.. who knows honestly.

I wasn't pointing it at you but to overall the people going on about Nagato or Itachi.

Yes, you countered points but than someone will counter yours and the trend will just go on, this is all opinion based what Kishi would desire to happen in the battle is with him if it were to ever happen. He wants Itachi to win he will or he wants Nagato too win he would.

I don't think Itachi would pawn Nagato but I also don't think Nagato would pawn Itachi simple in my case.

 

[PEIN is the answer]

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts.

First off the way you describe Itachi means he is strongest Ninja ever even stronger so6p and minato and Madara put together. Second if yatta mirror blocks everything and shirna tensei can push anything back it would be a tie no matter what. People think that shenanigan attacks can not be beaten gime a break

 

[tacobelt]

#1 Itachi & Nagato were in a weakened/sickened state so impossible to tell just how strong they were.
#2 itachi loses in prolonged fight thats just a fact no matter how you dress it.
#3 nagato is screwed if someone sneaks into his hiding place.
-itachi has the sealing sword- nagato can summon the statue and do the same effect
-itachi has amaterasu- nagato can absorb it/repel it (but really no way to know)
-speed? havent seen any proof that says either is faster than the other.
-smart? pft all speculation when has any of them done anything clever?
-illusion - advantage to itachi but would it work against the pain thingies that feel no pain?

-and finally nagato wins only because if his pain puppets get destroyed he can flee and fight another day.only reason naruto knew his location was bcuz sage mode and unless itachi is psychic then he woulnt know.