[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

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pain can tell when itachi uses anms tech or alot of chakra consumption he can feel the air shift or somethin but it felt like amerterasu to him so we can only say he predicts
 

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pain can tell when itachi uses anms tech or alot of chakra consumption he can feel the air shift or somethin but it felt like amerterasu to him so we can only say he predicts

how u know this?
 

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hmmm well idk dude rinnigan has been said to b stronger than sharingan but it was never stated in wut ways
 
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mudfactory you keep saying that shinra tensei works but it so obvious that itachi's susano itself is a great shield, the damn thing blocked kirin, and a fully formed one with armor and a shield cannot block shinra tensei and would fly back out of the field that is just ridiculous. the best it can do is maybe push it back a little. And do u guys ignore the new chapter nagato is slow and his shared vision can be easily impaired by itachi, the summons were also stopped by itachi with a simple amaterasu and his attacks can be blocked by yata mirror. the main obstacle would be chibaku tensei and in a real 1v1 fight nagato would not be able to pull it off especially since itachi can easily seal him as he did due to nagato's lack of mobility. the tech consumes a lot of chakra and time and in a 1v1 fight he would not have the toime to pull it off. Itachi would most likely win in a fight due to his intelligence and his use of techs effectively.

You idiot how would he not be able to do that attack he did it while nine tails was chasing him which is physically faster and stronger then itachi so you are dumb on that point. And really does every itachi fan think susano is the most powerful thing ever and is invincible give me a break if that so itachi and saske are the strongest ever cause they can not loose cause of susano and we know susano has weakness cause of the danzo battle so debate over
 

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read my post carefully i said because susano was not in full form is why itachi went to his knees

who said regular, great force it varies im just saying one great one.

just akin this is an opinion do you think the rinnegan has any possible way of using the 3 ms techs and do you think that the sage of sixpath wive had a byaukugan and that's how the sharingan is derived from both, remember this is an opion.

postive emotions i am sorry man sometimes i miss a few things like this and say the wrong stuff, my bad on that one.

you know for him to do a stronger shinra tensei it takes more time, just pointing that out and itachi is not going to be just sitting there and considering that nagato cannot move much he cannot afford such time. not sure if nagato could do it but more likely he can't then if he can, they are powers only an uchiha can awake and nagato does not have the dna of the uchiha.
 
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You idiot how would he not be able to do that attack he did it while nine tails was chasing him which is physically faster and stronger then itachi so you are dumb on that point. And really does every itachi fan think susano is the most powerful thing ever and is invincible give me a break if that so itachi and saske are the strongest ever cause they can not loose cause of susano and we know susano has weakness cause of the danzo battle so debate over

danzo battle what do u mean. the nine tails is not an intelligent being it was on a rampage and just destroying things, do you think itachi is gonna go around crushing rocks for no reason, no he would attack nagato and remember the guy also cannot move much and itachi can easily blind his shared vision making him an easy target for the sword. You guys got to be kidding me nagato's body is not faast and cannot go somewhere to release his attacks and u compare a ninetailed beast that has no intelligence whatsoever and going rampage to one of the smartest ninja in the series, unlike the ninetails itachi would attack nagato instead running around going on a rampage. When u hav no good arguments to itachi's susano don't go and compare it to the nine tails they are vastly different.
 
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postive emotions i am sorry man sometimes i miss a few things like this and say the wrong stuff, my bad on that one.

you know for him to do a stronger shinra tensei it takes more time, just pointing that out and itachi is not going to be just sitting there and considering that nagato cannot move much he cannot afford such time. not sure if nagato could do it but more likely he can't then if he can, they are powers only an uchiha can awake and nagato does not have the dna of the uchiha.

Uchihas are decedent of sage of six paths who used what the rinnengan so if uchiha is strong then nagatos blood line even better it's simple.
 
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danzo battle what do u mean. the nine tails is not an intelligent being it was on a rampage and just destroying things, do you think itachi is gonna go around crushing rocks for no treason, no he would attack nagato and remember the guy also cannot move much and itachi can easily blind his shared vision making him an easy target for the sword. You guys got to be kidding me nagato's body is not faast and cannot go somewhere to release his attacks and u compare a ninetailed beast that has no intelligence whatsoever and going rampage to one of the smartest ninja in the series, unlike the ninetails itachi would attack nagato instead running around going on a rampage.

You act like nine tails was running in circles no he wasn't he was out for peins blood and he is faster and stronger then itachi physically so if pein can out run him then he can out run itachi. And danzo faught saske with susano that's what I talking about we seen susanos weakness
 

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In general, I think Nagato has more power than Itachi. However, the way Itachi uses his powers are what wins him battles. I'm not sure who is actually the better ninja, but my gut instinct is telling me Nagato.
 
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danzo battle what do u mean. the nine tails is not an intelligent being it was on a rampage and just destroying things, do you think itachi is gonna go around crushing rocks for no reason, no he would attack nagato and remember the guy also cannot move much and itachi can easily blind his shared vision making him an easy target for the sword. You guys got to be kidding me nagato's body is not faast and cannot go somewhere to release his attacks and u compare a ninetailed beast that has no intelligence whatsoever and going rampage to one of the smartest ninja in the series, unlike the ninetails itachi would attack nagato instead running around going on a rampage. When u hav no good arguments to itachi's susano don't go and compare it to the nine tails they are vastly different.

O ya and people say itachi so smart cause he figured out how to stop chibk tensai (horrible spell) so did nine tales even though people say he not smart as soon as nine tails got sucked up he started blasting the sphere but lacked the power to destroy it and itachi is not physically stonger then nine tails
 

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mudfactory you keep saying that shinra tensei works but it so obvious that itachi's susano itself is a great shield, the damn thing blocked kirin, and a fully formed one with armor and a shield cannot block shinra tensei and would fly back out of the field that is just ridiculous. the best it can do is maybe push it back a little. And do u guys ignore the new chapter nagato is slow and his shared vision can be easily impaired by itachi, the summons were also stopped by itachi with a simple amaterasu and his attacks can be blocked by yata mirror. the main obstacle would be chibaku tensei and in a real 1v1 fight nagato would not be able to pull it off especially since itachi can easily seal him as he did due to nagato's lack of mobility. the tech consumes a lot of chakra and time and in a 1v1 fight he would not have the toime to pull it off. Itachi would most likely win in a fight due to his intelligence and his use of techs effectively.

Susano'o is a good shield but Kirin isn't made to PUSH or PULL just damage. And chibaku tensei pulled susano'o with NO PROBLEM so why wouldn't shinra tensei and before you say "then why didn't he use it?" i already answered that and thats because it doesn't immobilize or seal so it does no good against edo or help in capturing the jinchuuriki. And while the summons were stopped he CAN summon them again. And i just LOOOOOVE how in this fight scenario Itachi is at full strength but everyone is saying Nagato lacks mobility...... So why do Itachi fanboys get to have Itachi at his PRIME but Nagato is in his weakened state and not at HIS PRIME?!?!?!? Y'know when he COULD WALK?!?!?!?! You guys are ridiculous!
 
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postive emotions i am sorry man sometimes i miss a few things like this and say the wrong stuff, my bad on that one.

you know for him to do a stronger shinra tensei it takes more time, just pointing that out and itachi is not going to be just sitting there and considering that nagato cannot move much he cannot afford such time. not sure if nagato could do it but more likely he can't then if he can, they are powers only an uchiha can awake and nagato does not have the dna of the uchiha.

Plz reply about what I said about susano
 

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postive emotions i am sorry man sometimes i miss a few things like this and say the wrong stuff, my bad on that one.

you know for him to do a stronger shinra tensei it takes more time, just pointing that out and itachi is not going to be just sitting there and considering that nagato cannot move much he cannot afford such time. not sure if nagato could do it but more likely he can't then if he can, they are powers only an uchiha can awake and nagato does not have the dna of the uchiha.

yea and pein has the sage of six paths so its a win win for both
 

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Uchihas are decedent of sage of six paths who used what the rinnengan so if uchiha is strong then nagatos blood line even better it's simple.

You act like nine tails was running in circles no he wasn't he was out for peins blood and he is faster and stronger then itachi physically so if pein can out run him then he can out run itachi. And danzo faught saske with susano that's what I talking about we seen susanos weakness

ok to your first question if he possessing rinnegan is different from using all its abilities, if nagato had uchiha dna(one of the paths of the sage of six paths) he would be able to use all the powers of genjutsu and izanagi all he wants and itachi, naruto, bee would not have stood a chance against him, he has hsown no evidence of having such a bloodline, and madara says he is an uzumaki(distant senju relative) and he also mentions he gave him the eye which would mean he would not have those powers and the fact that he never used any of those abilities like izanagi suggests he does not have them.

having power is something the sixtails naruto had but he was not aiming exactly at pain all the times and going on a rampage and unlike a beast would pin point the attacks and not go running around attacking and destroying everything in its path. nagato cannot move much did u not see the latest chapter he has limites ability to walk and he depended on his shared vision which was easily stopped by itachi and the sword easily sealed him due to that. it is not pain but nagato we are talking about who has bad mobility.
 
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Susano'o is a good shield but Kirin isn't made to PUSH or PULL just damage. And chibaku tensei pulled susano'o with NO PROBLEM so why wouldn't shinra tensei and before you say "then why didn't he use it?" i already answered that and thats because it doesn't immobilize or seal so it does no good against edo or help in capturing the jinchuuriki. And while the summons were stopped he CAN summon them again. And i just LOOOOOVE how in this fight scenario Itachi is at full strength but everyone is saying Nagato lacks mobility...... So why do Itachi fanboys get to have Itachi at his PRIME but Nagato is in his weakened state and not at HIS PRIME?!?!?!? Y'know when he COULD WALK?!?!?!?! You guys are ridiculous!

I Agree if itachi fighting this weak imoble nagato then how could he not win du but if they booth in same condition nagato would win. The only reson itachi has chance is cause susano who is not invincible. But for all itachi fans he did seal nagato but under crap conditions 3v1 not healthy under someone's control if itachi fans want to hold onto this so bad ok but remember it was one of the most unfair fights in naruto history it's like if kakashi guy and tsunade killed itachi while he was near death and not even half power and I said ya guy is better then itachi cause he delivered final blow Ya it sound dumb ha
 

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Susano'o is a good shield but Kirin isn't made to PUSH or PULL just damage. And chibaku tensei pulled susano'o with NO PROBLEM so why wouldn't shinra tensei and before you say "then why didn't he use it?" i already answered that and thats because it doesn't immobilize or seal so it does no good against edo or help in capturing the jinchuuriki. And while the summons were stopped he CAN summon them again. And i just LOOOOOVE how in this fight scenario Itachi is at full strength but everyone is saying Nagato lacks mobility...... So why do Itachi fanboys get to have Itachi at his PRIME but Nagato is in his weakened state and not at HIS PRIME?!?!?!? Y'know when he COULD WALK?!?!?!?! You guys are ridiculous!

Are you gus not reading the manga nagato cannot move much and kabuto even stated it nagato cannot move as much, he sure as hell can't outrun itachi.
shinra tensei pushes it is a force against you it caan be withstood klike how sixtails did and naruto's clones especially with susano's armor and yata mirror. kirin does not pull but sure would push you have you seen the force of it and it was blcoked by just a regular susano. and kabuto would use all his attacks on itachi he was not holding back he was clearly pissed that itachi blockeed his vision and attacked him and sealed him easily, with no time to react. why can't nagato fans see this.
 

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ok to your first question if he possessing rinnegan is different from using all its abilities, if nagato had uchiha dna(one of the paths of the sage of six paths) he would be able to use all the powers of genjutsu and izanagi all he wants and itachi, naruto, bee would not have stood a chance against him, he has hsown no evidence of having such a bloodline, and madara says he is an uzumaki(distant senju relative) and he also mentions he gave him the eye which would mean he would not have those powers and the fact that he never used any of those abilities like izanagi suggests he does not have them.

having power is something the sixtails naruto had but he was not aiming exactly at pain all the times and going on a rampage and unlike a beast would pin point the attacks and not go running around attacking and destroying everything in its path. nagato cannot move much did u not see the latest chapter he has limites ability to walk and he depended on his shared vision which was easily stopped by itachi and the sword easily sealed him due to that. it is not pain but nagato we are talking about who has bad mobility.

Whoa man stop right there!!! Having UCHIHA BLOOD wouldn't let him use IZANAGI!!!! Yu need to REREAD THE MANGA! You need UCHIHA AND SENJU DNA to use it! Not DISTANT senju relative. The uchiha are distant relative of the senju since they both decended from the brother sons of the SO6P! Madara said he needed Hashiramas DNA and so did Danzo so stop right there!!!
 

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I Agree if itachi fighting this weak imoble nagato then how could he not win du but if they booth in same condition nagato would win. The only reson itachi has chance is cause susano who is not invincible. But for all itachi fans he did seal nagato but under crap conditions 3v1 not healthy under someone's control if itachi fans want to hold onto this so bad ok but remember it was one of the most unfair fights in naruto history it's like if kakashi guy and tsunade killed itachi while he was near death and not even half power and I said ya guy is better then itachi cause he delivered final blow Ya it sound dumb ha

did u guys read the manga today seriously he lacked mobility or did u choose to forget about it, kabuto even explicitly stated it.
 

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Whoa man stop right there!!! Having UCHIHA BLOOD wouldn't let him use IZANAGI!!!! Yu need to REREAD THE MANGA! You need UCHIHA AND SENJU DNA to use it! Not DISTANT senju relative. The uchiha are distant relative of the senju since they both decended from the brother sons of the SO6P! Madara said he needed Hashiramas DNA and so did Danzo so stop right there!!!

all uchihas can do it all thought u need senju dna to make it more effective with senju dna u can make izangi last longer
 
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