[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[ablepema]

you're welcome

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

nagato can repel all of amerterasu
nagato saw it all
nagato has the strength
he definatly can counter it.

PLS DO YOU HAVE SOLID FACTS 2 backup ALL YOUR POINTS?

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

the thing wont hit his body he has suction pad/small force field around him and he'll absorb the chakra.

I like d fact dat u used d word SMALL. Totsuka Blade is VERY BIG. It has a higher density than dat of Nagato's SMALL Shield. U say it's made up of chakra with no proof. I asked u 2 please go 2 Narutowiki n definitely u havn't. If he absorbs d chakra d sword wud pierce him. Why didn't his shield save him when Itachi sealed him?

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

Nagato/Kabuto said it was AMATERATSU but in d end it WASN'T so dat means they were wrong. Sometimes u can see an attack comin but may not be able 2 counter it. U may hav d insight but not d required strength. Nagato may or may not see it comin but may not be able 2 repel ALL of it.

I just went back and looked at the manga and as soon as Itachi opened his eye to use amaterasu the crow was in from of him and used the koto on him STOPPING the amaterasu and everyone was like 'what?!?' and then Nagato said 'oh i see what you did' so shisui's genjutsu activated just in time to stop him from using Amaterasu. but you are right you can never dodge 100% of the time. But Nagato definitely has an advantage noone else has had.

 

[arv993]

It's like I wud be posting dis every 7 pages though arv told me not 2. I can't just take it when I see dis guys saying Nagato wud win with no reasons 2 back them up. I originally made dis thread 2 silence Nagato fans thinking most Nagato fans wud follow me n agree but it seems their foolish pride has covered their ability 2 think clearly.
Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts.

SORRY ARV.

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its ok man sometimes ppl are just can't resist correcting things that are said out of proportions.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

i never disagreed but just saying that gavitational force can cause pain,and damage just notice how konoha was flatten, also when pain was upside down in the air when he was in the air and he hit the rock parts and that use rock fell down.

shenrei tensei doen't have any affects on pein

 

[arv993]

mudfactory you keep saying that shinra tensei works but it so obvious that itachi's susano itself is a great shield, the damn thing blocked kirin, and a fully formed one with armor and a shield cannot block shinra tensei and would fly back out of the field that is just ridiculous. the best it can do is maybe push it back a little. And do u guys ignore the new chapter nagato is slow and his shared vision can be easily impaired by itachi, the summons were also stopped by itachi with a simple amaterasu and his attacks can be blocked by yata mirror. the main obstacle would be chibaku tensei and in a real 1v1 fight nagato would not be able to pull it off especially since itachi can easily seal him as he did due to nagato's lack of mobility. the tech consumes a lot of chakra and time and in a 1v1 fight he would not have the toime to pull it off. Itachi would most likely win in a fight due to his intelligence and his use of techs effectively.

 

[ablepema]

I like d fact dat u used d word SMALL. Totsuka Blade is VERY BIG. It has a higher density than dat of Nagato's SMALL Shield. U say it's made up of chakra with no proof. I asked u 2 please go 2 Narutowiki n definitely u havn't. If he absorbs d chakra d sword wud pierce him. Why didn't his shield save him when Itachi sealed him?

what are you sayin it doesn't matter if it's small it absorbs chakra the fact is that force field surrounds him.
if you don't want to believe it's chakra fine but it's a bit obvious it's chakra.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

arv dude we discussed this as well if kirin would to hit the yata mirror it would be hard to reflect the attack bc the force of the lighting would be to strong to repel dude same with with shenrei tensei those 2 techniques have strong force

 

[ablepema]

kirin impact isn't actually better than shinra tensa.

 

[arv993]

arv dude we discussed this as well if kirin would to hit the yata mirror it would be hard to reflect the attack bc the force of the lighting would be to strong to repel dude same with with shenrei tensei those 2 techniques have strong force

yo srry i didn't get u can u elaborate pls

 

[PositiveEmotions]

yo srry i didn't get u can u elaborate pls

ok sasuke's kirin technique has a powerful force from the sky and shenrei tensei has a powerful gravity technique so if susaso would to block kirin itachi would fall to his knees not the ground but to his knees because of the force of the lighting and as for shenrei if susaso would try to seal nagato nagato would use shenrei tensie and push susano back a bit just enough for the sword not to rich nagato

 

[arv993]

kirin impact isn't actually better than shinra tensa.

who told u that a regular shinra tensei is much weaker than kirin. look at the force of this

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susano also blocked this in an instant just to let u kno. seriously u think a regular shinra tensei is stronger than this.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

who told u that a regular shinra tensei is much weaker than kirin. look at the force of this

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susano also blocked this in an instant just to let u kno. seriously u think a regular shinra tensei is stronger than this.

yea but didnt u notice it had itachi to the ground there for susano also went down protecting itachi but this is cause bc susano was not in full form

 

[arv993]

ok sasuke's kirin technique has a powerful force from the sky and shenrei tensei has a powerful gravity technique so if susaso would to block kirin itachi would fall to his knees not the ground but to his knees because of the force of the lighting and as for shenrei if susaso would try to seal nagato nagato would use shenrei tensie and push susano back a bit just enough for the sword not to rich nagato

do u kno that it was not a fully formed susano without a shield or anything cos in the manga so far it has taken itachi about 3 sec(approx) to get all his armor and shield and sword out, but he can form a susano with bones instantly and that is the one he used cos kirin was 1/1000 of second fast and also rmember the guy was extremely sick and was near his death and coughing blood a few times.

 

[ablepema]

who said regular, great force it varies im just saying one great one.

just akin this is an opinion do you think the rinnegan has any possible way of using the 3 ms techs and do you think that the sage of sixpath wive had a byaukugan and that's how the sharingan is derived from both, remember this is an opion.

 

[ablepema]

shenrei tensei doen't have any affects on pein

i didn't mean nagato i meant feeling pain.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

do u kno that it was not a fully formed susano without a shield or anything cos in the manga so far it has taken itachi about 3 sec(approx) to get all his armor and shield and sword out, but he can form a susano with bones instantly and that is the one he used cos kirin was 1/1000 of second fast and also rmember the guy was extremely sick and was near his death and coughing blood a few times.

read my post carefully i said because susano was not in full form is why itachi went to his knees

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

I just went back and looked at the manga and as soon as Itachi opened his eye to use amaterasu the crow was in from of him and used the koto on him STOPPING the amaterasu and everyone was like 'what?!?' and then Nagato said 'oh i see what you did' so shisui's genjutsu activated just in time to stop him from using Amaterasu. but you are right you can never dodge 100% of the time. But Nagato definitely has an advantage noone else has had.

Not trying 2 argue but how do you know he wanted 2 activate Amateratsu. Maybe using Kota Amatsukami makes him bleed too

 

[PositiveEmotions]

who said regular, great force it varies im just saying one great one.

just akin this is an opinion do you think the rinnegan has any possible way of using the 3 ms techs and do you think that the sage of sixpath wive had a byaukugan and that's how the sharingan is derived from both, remember this is an opion.

hmmm makes sense since bykugan is similar to sharingan in a way i think i could b wrong