[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

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being new doesn't mean you can't become the leader. madara can just ditch out pain if he is so scared to itachi. and make itachi the leader.

but of course he can't do that coz he can't take out nagato, and itachi just joined akatsuki to spy and negotiate coz he cannot take on either nagato or madara. I gave itachi credit on being wise on that,
"if you cannot beat em, join em!" <-- that prolly itachi was thinking back then.lol

That was not the reason, he did not want to take them on, he knew madara was the bad guy and he knew he could not take him out but he had nothing on Nagato, he was just a leader. Itachi's purpose was to spy and keep tabs with akatsuki and help konoha. He made the akatsuki not attack Knoha that is all he wanted to do and then die to his bro, he did not want to take em all out that was never his goal.
 

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Nagato was one of the original members of the akatsuki why would a relatively newer member like Itachi become the leader. That would not make any sense that is why nagato remained the leader while madara just manipulated him from the back.

He was referred to as "Leader" by all Akatsuki members, except for Konan. Also he assisted Madara Uchiha in the creation of the Akatsuki.
 

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the reason he was the leader is tobi made him the leader it had nothing to do with strength
thigh he was strong as hell
 

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He was referred to as "Leader" by all Akatsuki members, except for Konan. Also he assisted Madara Uchiha in the creation of the Akatsuki.

dude wat is ur point i kno this already. I did not say he wasn't the leader.
 

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i am an itachi fan. but nagato is way stronger than itachi. plus rinnegan is stronger than sharigan( considering the ten tails had sharigan and so6p had rinnegan but still so6p was able to seal him) so i don't think ocular genjutsu would work on him (my opinion), it was a 3 vs 1 fight cos if it wasn't itachi wouldn't be given time to figure things out the way he did, and nagato was controlled by kabuto so he will be slower. on the issue of been manipulated even itachi and shisui were manipulated by danzo, so give nagato a break
 

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yeah nagato who destroyed a whole village and previous leader of akatsuki and was taken down by three of the strongest ninjas(bee,naruto and itachi) is weaker than itachi. YEAH RIGHT! not in a million years kid.

lol i agree if it was one on one itachi would not have won beside jiraiya could not beat nagato n itachi said he can not beat jiraiya so what that tell u
 

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why should I, its not even a fact. thats just speculation coming from an itachi fan with no sense. lol

What makes it a speculation? You're just a Nagato fan with no answers 2 reasonable FACTS. LOL!!
 

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Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.
2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.
3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.
4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei
5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.
6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts.

YOU CALL THIS A SPECULATION??!!! If u do then you're crazy!!! VERY CRAZY! LOL!
 
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its funny that uchiha fanboys truly beleive that itachi is stonger than nagato LOL :D :D :D
 

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Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.
2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.
3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.
4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei
5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.
6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts.

YOU CALL THIS A SPECULATION??!!! If u do then you're crazy!!! VERY CRAZY! LOL!

dude ppl r not gonna easily change their opinions. Stop posting too mny times some ppl won't listen. IMO i think itachi has a better chance becos of his amazing legendary weapons, high genjutsu skill which might not be effective or might be and him being one of the smartest ninja on the show, some ppl wud see it different, for now just let it go stop arguing they would change their minds, we'll see more in the manga in more detail of itachi's and nagato's(through madara) powers then we can fully decide.
 

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dude ppl r not gonna easily change their opinions. Stop posting too mny times some ppl won't listen. IMO i think itachi has a better chance becos of his amazing legendary weapons, high genjutsu skill which might not be effective or might be and him being one of the smartest ninja on the show, some ppl wud see it different, for now just let it go stop arguing they would change their minds, we'll see more in the manga in more detail of itachi's and nagato's(through madara) powers then we can fully decide.

The best way to get anywhere close to a conclusion with this Nagato vs Itachi absurdities is to do the following:

- the Itachi and Nagato fanboys elect a representative for each side.
- Each representative list all of the attributes of the character their representing based on their group's input.
- A jury, made up of the top 50 users with the highest "rep" looks at the provided info and votes for the answer.
 

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The best way to get anywhere close to a conclusion with this Nagato vs Itachi absurdities is to do the following:

- the Itachi and Nagato fanboys elect a representative for each side.
- Each representative list all of the attributes of the character their representing based on their group's input.
- A jury, made up of the top 50 users with the highest "rep" looks at the provided info and votes for the answer.

no ppl are always biased towards one side or the other that is not gonna work out. Its not they are all biased but just have a different point of view and there are some unknowns in this like is itachi's tsukiyomi work or not and things like can nagato dodge the sword or not and some ppl will use speculation like Itachi can use 3 yasaka magatami to break the black ball(which might be tru or not) and others might say nagato did not dodge the sword on purpose and let itachi seal him. There are too many ways ppl are gonna argue this back and forth and i think if we see more of itachi's skills through the manga so we can have at least a better idea if he wins or nagato wins in a fight. Having representatives and a group decide wud just be chaos since ppl would keep accusing others of being fanboys. The best thing is wait for more chapters IMO.
 

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no ppl are always biased towards one side or the other that is not gonna work out. Its not they are all biased but just have a different point of view and there are some unknowns in this like is itachi's tsukiyomi work or not and things like can nagato dodge the sword or not and some ppl will use speculation like Itachi can use 3 yasaka magatami to break the black ball(which might be tru or not) and others might say nagato did not dodge the sword on purpose and let itachi seal him. There are too many ways ppl are gonna argue this back and forth and i think if we see more of itachi's skills through the manga so we can have at least a better idea if he wins or nagato wins in a fight. Having representatives and a group decide wud just be chaos since ppl would keep accusing others of being fanboys. The best thing is wait for more chapters IMO.

Maybe if we all wrote Kishi letters and emails until he become so fed-up that he provides an answer?
 

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Maybe if we all wrote Kishi letters and emails until he become so fed-up that he provides an answer?

maybe man, but i doubt he'd give a crap he wud just say be patient and read the manga
 
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