[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

well we r not talkin about the other guy r we lol we r talkin about narutoandpein which r 2 different people

Nagato can't counter Itachi's genjutsu frm what we hav seen frm them both. PERIOD!!

 

[kadowade]

You fact right?!?! Than a fact is if it wasn't for B's beast bomb and naruto rasen shurikan(spelling) than itachi would have gotten his ass handed to him
Here is a opinion: well itachi's move would have been enough to break chika tensei
Fact: itachi's plans failed
Fact: rinnengan is the strongest doujutsu
Fact: nagato has never shown weakness towards a visual genjutsu
Is enough facts for you

How do you know if itachi couldnt destroy the sphere and those rocks.
He couldve easily Used AMaterasu and that wouldve disengrated the sphere or the rocks thats attracting towards the sphere.
Since its a Fact: that Amaterasu dosent Extinguish until the target is disengrated,or the user extingushes it. Chibaku Tensei is nothing but rocks that can easily be burnt and disenegrated.
Kishi wanted to show us ANOTHER surprise Itachi was hiding, which was yasaka no magatama.
Why not be cautious and use 2 perfectly functioning Jinchurki standing right next to him to aid.

You dont know how strong the sphere is. a Fireball justu probably couldve destroyed it, You never know. Itachi is not a person who underestimates his opponents, so its smart to "use" to jinhcuriki who have full control over their beast to make sure just incase.

Fact is you have no clue on what's strong enough to destroy it. Hell, a kunai bomb couldve did something lol. Or Itachi couldve just used 3 Yasaka No Matagama's or more. But it's more efficent to use 2 powerhouses standing next to you instead of doing it alone

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

1.what does itachi's plan got to do with nagato being stronger than Itachi
2. Rinnegan is the strongest but where does it say no genjutsu can ever work on it
3.Nagato has never faced a bvisual genjutsu so how can u say he has shown no weakness to it

You missed the first one and if gen jutsu was that big of a problem than just so you there was a clan was the BEST so you think it would be stronger than uchiha clan and before you say well uchiha can break through any genjutsu you are wrong because they break through either a weak gen jutsu or ones that are done by another uchiha

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts


Dat's my reason. COUNTER ALL OF IT!!

dude itachi and naruto both are stong itachi is more smarter than nagato when it comes to finding out things nagato is better at some other crap like fighting and nagato also is smart and thinks things but not in the same level as itachi so for now they both are strong and u all people keep forgetting that that battle does not really count nagato was being controlled

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

How do you know if itachi couldnt destroy the sphere and those rocks.
He couldve easily Used AMaterasu and that wouldve disengrated the sphere or the rocks thats attracting towards the sphere.
Since its a Fact: that Amaterasu dosent Extinguish until the target is disengrated,or the user extingushes it. Chibaku Tensei is nothing but rocks that can easily be burnt and disenegrated.
Kishi wanted to show us ANOTHER surprise Itachi was hiding, which was yasaka no magatama.
Why not be cautious and use 2 perfectly functioning Jinchurki standing right next to him to aid.

You dont know how strong the sphere is. a Fireball justu probably couldve destroyed it, You never know. Itachi is not a person who underestimates his opponents, so its smart to "use" to jinhcuriki who have full control over their beast to make sure just incase.

Fact is you have no clue on what's strong enough to destroy it. Hell, a kunai bomb couldve did something lol. Or Itachi couldve just used 3 Yasaka No Matagama's or more. But it's more efficent to use 2 powerhouses standing next to you instead of doing it alone

You don't how strong it is either so lol

 

[arv993]

You missed the first one and if gen jutsu was that big of a problem than just so you there was a clan was the BEST so you think it would be stronger than uchiha clan and before you say well uchiha can break through any genjutsu you are wrong because they break through either a weak gen jutsu or ones that are done by another uchiha

can u please explain it a little better i am not really following on what you are trying to say.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

C'mon now pls I'm tired of arguing. Itachi is better due 2 d reasons I've stated above

 

[arv993]

guys i forgot one thing u kno that itachi if ever was in 1v1 fight and there was a chibaku tensei u kno that he can use an izangi if ever he was that desperate making everything a dream and can finish nagato with a sword of totsuka. Just pointing out a possibility.

 

[kadowade]

I think Itachi can win but I enjoy a good debate more than anyone. If we need to just counter 2 of your points.

EDIT: Sorry--didn't see you used 2 instead of to--so I can't counter ALL your points.

4. This isn't a fact--the only evidence we have is that it repels attacks/projectiles thrown at it. No where do have proof that it is effective/ineffective towards Shinra Tensei. Not to mention most of Nagato's "offense" are due to gravitational/force related manuevers and NOT attacks (fireballs, projectiles) so this isn't really a relevant point.

5. This isn't really a fact either but more speculation (which is all we can do). The fact is that the it took the combined effort of 3 projectile attacks to destroy the ball. While I completely agree that Itachi could have the foresight to think he needs to save his chakra, I don't think that Itachi could imagine that he would one-day be ressurected and facing off in an all-out ninja war.

This is proven. Read everything zetsu said (Basically kishi speaking)

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It sais ALL attacks, isnt shinra tensei an attack

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Nagato can't counter Itachi's genjutsu frm what we hav seen frm them both. PERIOD!!

like i said it has not been proven read the other post before u make your own

How do you know if itachi couldnt destroy the sphere and those rocks.
He couldve easily Used AMaterasu and that wouldve disengrated the sphere or the rocks thats attracting towards the sphere.
Since its a Fact: that Amaterasu dosent Extinguish until the target is disengrated,or the user extingushes it. Chibaku Tensei is nothing but rocks that can easily be burnt and disenegrated.
Kishi wanted to show us ANOTHER surprise Itachi was hiding, which was yasaka no magatama.
Why not be cautious and use 2 perfectly functioning Jinchurki standing right next to him to aid.

You dont know how strong the sphere is. a Fireball justu probably couldve destroyed it, You never know. Itachi is not a person who underestimates his opponents, so its smart to "use" to jinhcuriki who have full control over their beast to make sure just incase.

Fact is you have no clue on what's strong enough to destroy it. Hell, a kunai bomb couldve did something lol. Or Itachi couldve just used 3 Yasaka No Matagama's or more. But it's more efficent to use 2 powerhouses standing next to you instead of doing it alone

it takes time to use amaterasu dude and same with fireballs please do not argue in here narutoandpein does have some true facts and some false facts just like we all do in here

You missed the first one and if gen jutsu was that big of a problem than just so you there was a clan was the BEST so you think it would be stronger than uchiha clan and before you say well uchiha can break through any genjutsu you are wrong because they break through either a weak gen jutsu or ones that are done by another uchiha

yea i do agree there there is ninjas who can break throu weak genjutsus and strong once but there has not been anyone who could break throu itachi's tsukiyomi

 

[arv993]

like i said it has not been proven read the other post before u make your own



it takes time to use amaterasu dude and same with fireballs please do not argue in here narutoandpein does have some true facts and some false facts just like we all do in here


yea i do agree there there is ninjas who can break throu weak genjutsus and strong once but there has not been anyone who could break throu itachi's tsukiyomi

dude amaterasu is fast just saying remember how fast sasuke got bee's whole body with amaterasu.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

dude itachi and naruto both are stong itachi is more smarter than nagato when it comes to finding out things nagato is better at some other crap like fighting and nagato also is smart and thinks things but not in the same level as itachi so for now they both are strong and u all people keep forgetting that that battle does not really count nagato was being controlled

If u wanna count d fact dat Nagato was controlled u wud count d fact dat he was immortal. And who Kabuto is smarter than Nagato 4 ur information

 

[PositiveEmotions]

guys i forgot one thing u kno that itachi if ever was in 1v1 fight and there was a chibaku tensei u kno that he can use an izangi if ever he was that desperate making everything a dream and can finish nagato with a sword of totsuka. Just pointing out a possibility.

mmmmmm well is really hard to say dude i mean i understand the spiritual weapons and all but chibaku tensei is very strong the down side would be the 5 second thing but 1v1 would be very awesome and i will not say who will win because this is basically a dream match

 

[kadowade]

it takes time to use amaterasu dude and same with fireballs please do not argue in here narutoandpein does have some true facts and some false facts just like we all do in here

When itachi used Amaterasu ,Nagato didnt even have enough time to react, therfore he got burnt, then he regenerated cuz of Edo Tensei and repeled the flames back.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

dude amaterasu is fast just saying remember how fast sasuke got bee's whole body with amaterasu.

i know is fast dude i mean it would take a few seconds to activated the amaterasu is all i am saying i know it burns to everything that touches but depends on the large object that is throun if its a big a$$ rock it would still fall while it burns little by little dude is all i am saying i know amaterasu is very fast amazingly fast

 

[arv993]

mmmmmm well is really hard to say dude i mean i understand the spiritual weapons and all but chibaku tensei is very strong the down side would be the 5 second thing but 1v1 would be very awesome and i will not say who will win because this is basically a dream match

but really think about it in a dire situation(which i don't think would happen becos of genjutsu, yata mirror and sword of totsuka) but if it does all itachi has to do is sacrifice one eye and make everything a dream and seal nagato.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

If u wanna count d fact dat Nagato was controlled u wud count d fact dat he was immortal. And who Kabuto is smarter than Nagato 4 ur information

lol yes i know this dude it does not prove what i am saying but anyways here is the results of iwr

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[Uzumaki Sasuke]

Dis page's already reached page 19 cos of arguments. I think d arguments hav lasted long enough. Both are strong but I personally feel Itachi is better

 

[kadowade]

It does say that Itachi is completly invincible in susano'o. Thats just what it sais in the manga, nothing i made up

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Kishi put that there for a reason

 

[arv993]

i know is fast dude i mean it would take a few seconds to activated the amaterasu is all i am saying i know it burns to everything that touches but depends on the large object that is throun if its a big a$$ rock it would still fall while it burns little by little dude is all i am saying i know amaterasu is very fast amazingly fast

ok fair point but what i was implying is that with amaterasu and the new attack he might break it but i am just speculating not asserting that it would definitely would break it.