[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[thelonghorn]

Ah and I forgot the most important point, Izanagi.

If this was a death match, the use of Izanagi would void any argument.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

i am not saying that he is not strong(he is extremely powerful as shown in the last episode) but ppl who say that he is exactly like the sage of six paths and that genjutsu won't work on him is foolish becos he is not really exactly like the s06p becos the s06p has the dna of both uchiha and senju which he does not and that is one of the reasons u don't see him using wide variety of genjutsu or even the most ultimate genjiutsu like Izangi which the sage used to create anything. All i am saying that is not immune to genjutsu like ppl say he is.

stop twisting my words i said some people said he is a mini so6p which considering jiraya said he was a recarnation of the sage makes sense but yeah it doesnt matter what people on this thread think because in the polls people rated nagato stronger in every one and this thread has 1 star rating just sums up how retarded some of you itachi fanboys are anyway everyones stopped like i said so im leaving this thread if you want to know why Nagato is so much more powerful then itachi and would beat him refer to my earlier post bye

 

[Modaro]

Are you forgetting that if there ever a 1v1 itachi would attack him b4 he even tries to use chibaku tensei which is not really fast.
And in a real fight nagato won't get to regenerate like he did with edo tensei

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if he can't regenerate he won't be able to use half his attacks and be prone to sword of totsuka while itachi has an ultimate defense with the yata mirror. And genjutsu might also work on him. And kabuto is smart he knew exactly what to do with nagato's powers to make naruto and bee to become temporarily dead. Kabuto is actually quite the mastermind and knew how to use nagato well. itachi is more likely to win in a 1v1.

the only hope itachi has against nagato is dat sealing sword, even if Amatarsu hits nagato he can blow it away. Nagato won't need to regenerate. I doubt with a powerful chakra such as nagato would be able to survive tuskyoumi.

EVEN NAGATO SAID IT RESISTANCE IS MEANINGLESS IN THE FACE OF OVERWELMING POWER!

 

[arv993]

After all these good points, I think I'd now put my money on Itachi in a fight vs Nagato.

The only realistic (which is sort of funny since we are arguing Fantasy) way Nagato could win was if he used all 6 forms--since Itachi would have to use his Sharingan to take out one body but that would leave him open to attacks from the 5 other ones. Though--I am convinced that the 6 bodies on their own aren't as powerful as Nagato. Another conclusion is that if Nagato is able to absorb Itachi's chakra--then it would be end game for Itachi but I think outside of using force pull, it isn't likely. The use of the Demon head might be another likely strategy (I'm not sure if one can use attacks when captured).

However I think that Itachi would be able to factor all these considerations in a fight and be able to win--hell even Kabuto put Itachi on another level.

i would like to point something out to u but it is a little irrelevant to your post. But our previous argument on how itachi takes time to form his complete susano but i think he is in control of it and chose to use it after nagato used chibaku tensei.

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look he made the complete version when he attacked with that new long range attack and it did not take him long at all.

 

[Modaro]

1. Nagato can't make Chibaku Tensei the size of the moon as he already confirmed that it was something the So6P did.

5. What is a "normal day" to you? Edo Tensei actually helped Nagato. "On a normal day", Nagato cannot walk by himself. "On a normal day", he was attached to that giant machine.

edit: Not saying Nagato is stupid but he isn't exactly as smart as Kabuto. Kabuto knew Naruto and Bee's abilities, he knew everything about Nagato's abilities. He actually made Naruto and Bee look like shit compared to Nagato.

eh emm.
were talkin about a normal nagoto before EXTREME HOBO MODE (EHM). and that my friend is enought to kill itachi.

Even if Itachi fought nagato as pain itachi would of lost, he stand a better chance of beating nagato as himself. So far no one proved worthy of defeating pain not even naruto.

there is no way itachi could beat him alone!

 

[kadowade]

your a itachi fannboy who cant take Nagato is much stronger thdn itachi its pathetic really read the manga and stfu

LMAO you can't even come up with an legitement excuse as to why you think that.
All you can say is Nagato stronger" Saying nagato is stronger isn't proving anything
And Yes NAgato IS Stronger than Itachi in strength
But Itachi is a person who can kill nagato.

Kishi has spoken to everybody,bY making itachi seal Nagato. Therefore thats showing you that even Though Nagato is "what you call stronger" But itachi is the one who will win in a fight

 

[thelonghorn]

i would like to point something out to u but it is a little irrelevant to your post. But our previous argument on how itachi takes time to form his complete susano but i think he is in control of it and chose to use it after nagato used chibaku tensei.

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look he made the complete version when he attacked with that new long range attack and it did not take him long at all.

Agreed. Curious as to why he didn't just Totsuka sword it while under Chibaku Tensei--maybe it would of endangered Naruto/Bee.

I think ultimately what the argument boils down to is Rinnegan vs Sharingan--I think Rinnegan is stronger (otherwise why would Madara even bother getting it back from Nagato).

 

[arv993]

the only hope itachi has against nagato is dat sealing sword, even if Amatarsu hits nagato he can blow it away. Nagato won't need to regenerate. I doubt with a powerful chakra such as nagato would be able to survive tuskyoumi.

EVEN NAGATO SAID IT RESISTANCE IS MEANINGLESS IN THE FACE OF OVERWELMING POWER!

naruto also has powerful and large chakra reserve and he was still caught in itachi's genjutsu. And he wasn't hurt form the amaterasu but from the susano just hitting near him blew his arms away go reread it, how would nagato regenerate in that situation, and if that happened he would not be able to use most of his techs without his arms.

 

[arv993]

Agreed. Curious as to why he didn't just Totsuka sword it while under Chibaku Tensei--maybe it would of endangered Naruto/Bee.

I think ultimately what the argument boils down to is Rinnegan vs Sharingan--I think Rinnegan is stronger (otherwise why would Madara even bother getting it back from Nagato).

rinnegan is better it provides many unique jutsus but think about it why did madara decide to still hold on to his sharingan cos that too is very useful in the battle. But it is not simple to conclude a fight like that we have seen ppl with no KG beat ppl with KG. I guess if he used the sword of totsuka he might have sealed either naruto and bee which would pretty much screw up his whole plan that might be a reason.

 

[kadowade]

eh emm.
were talkin about a normal nagoto before EXTREME HOBO MODE (EHM). and that my friend is enought to kill itachi.

Even if Itachi fought nagato as pain itachi would of lost, he stand a better chance of beating nagato as himself. So far no one proved worthy of defeating pain not even naruto.

there is no way itachi could beat him alone!

Itachi is perfectly capable of beating naruto. He caught Naruto in Genjutsu multiple times, EVEN though naruto new about itachi's genjutsu, But itachi has so many ways.

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Naruto was at ITachi's Mercy, itachi coulve Easily killed him.
While pain had a Hard time trying to even contain naruto, while itachi does it effortlessly

 

[arv993]

stop twisting my words i said some people said he is a mini so6p which considering jiraya said he was a recarnation of the sage makes sense but yeah it doesnt matter what people on this thread think because in the polls people rated nagato stronger in every one and this thread has 1 star rating just sums up how retarded some of you itachi fanboys are anyway everyones stopped like i said so im leaving this thread if you want to know why Nagato is so much more powerful then itachi and would beat him refer to my earlier post bye

yes he is "like" the six paths becos he has the rinnegan but that does not mean he has all the powers of the six paths.
look here

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he does not have senju and uchiha dna so he is not exactly like he is only similar to him. And you think polls are the best way to decide who is stronger or not, sorry but u are one true nagato fan becus u can't provide any counter arguments u rely on polls made by ppl who are just fans if u want to prove someone wrong use facts from the manga not some polls made by bunch of naruto fans.

 

[Izanami]

Itachi is perfectly capable of beating naruto. He caught Naruto in Genjutsu multiple times, EVEN though naruto new about itachi's genjutsu, But itachi has so many ways.

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Naruto was at ITachi's Mercy, itachi coulve Easily killed him.
While pain had a Hard time trying to even contain naruto, while itachi does it effortlessly

pain captured naruto 3 times and saying i have no valid points ? no sir you have no valid points your only defence is itachis genjutsu vs the most powerful eye type and susanno with the sword would that really outlast Nagato ? he fought vs the 9 tails for like 3 episodes hes clearly good at dodging powerful techs thats why listening to you itachi fanboys makes mehttp://www.narutobase.net/forums/images/smilies/xD.gif you need to get a grip on reality and naruto

 

[arv993]

it is really sad how ppl call others itachi fanboys when they use facts from the manga but the nagato fans as a counter argument say stupid things like this Quote by Modaro "EVEN NAGATO SAID IT RESISTANCE IS MEANINGLESS IN THE FACE OF OVERWELMING POWER!"
That is what true fanboys are called and it is not the ppl who actually provide argument with evidence from the manga those ppl are called debaters.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

your a itachi fannboy who cant take Nagato is much stronger thdn itachi its pathetic really read the manga and stfu

Pls stop saying nonsense n give ur reason 4 sayin Nagato is better than Itachi

 

[arv993]

pain captured naruto 3 times and saying i have no valid points ? no sir you have no valid points your only defence is itachis genjutsu vs the most powerful eye type and susanno with the sword would that really outlast Nagato ? he fought vs the 9 tails for like 3 episodes hes clearly good at dodging powerful techs thats why listening to you itachi fanboys makes mehttp://www.narutobase.net/forums/images/smilies/xD.gif you need to get a grip on reality and naruto

he was talking about Itachi vs naruto not pain vs naruto idk why you even bring it up. He did not fight the nine tails for 3 episodes he used the chibaku tensei pretty fast actually. No one said anything about itachi's sword outlasting nagato it seals nagato(you make no sense when u say it outlasts him just saying)

 

[kadowade]

the only hope itachi has against nagato is dat sealing sword, even if Amatarsu hits nagato he can blow it away. Nagato won't need to regenerate. I doubt with a powerful chakra such as nagato would be able to survive tuskyoumi.

EVEN NAGATO SAID IT RESISTANCE IS MEANINGLESS IN THE FACE OF OVERWELMING POWER!

Chakra has nothing to do with nothing. Chakra wont get you out of Tsukiyomi

OK LOOK WHAT ITACHI SAIS

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[Uzumaki Sasuke]

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Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

NO ONE CAN COUNTER my FACTS?!

 

[kadowade]

it is really sad how ppl call others itachi fanboys when they use facts from the manga but the nagato fans as a counter argument say stupid things like this Quote by Modaro "EVEN NAGATO SAID IT RESISTANCE IS MEANINGLESS IN THE FACE OF OVERWELMING POWER!"
That is what true fanboys are called and it is not the ppl who actually provide argument with evidence from the manga those ppl are called debaters.

Exactly, all they do is come up with an opinion of what they "Think"

 

[arv993]

NO ONE CAN COUNTER my FACTS?!

dude just calm down man yes i agree that itachi can beat nagato but don't go overboard its still a hard fight.