Itachi is stronger than madara

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Your fallacious approach to the situation is rather comical as Canon is against you; not to mention that your not Masashi. Disregarding your biased speculations its quite obvious that your trolling as your opening statement and rebuttals are poorly constructed. Madara has means of countering Itachi's complete susano'o as he could simply attack from beneath susano'o itself [ ]. Itachi has no where near enough stamina and chakra and jutsu to compete with someone such as Madara and as regards Totsuka no Tsurugi and Yata no Kagami, madara already has canonical knowledge of both ethereal weapons (via zetsu) and their constructs and functions; which completely strikes out itachi making a successful hits with the weapons. Its overkill.

just to put this out there, unless its stated in the manga that a character needs to shout out the name of the attack in order to perform it, then stating that they must do so in order to use the attack just because they do so in the manga is also speculation.

that would be like saying because naruto says rasengan once when using it for the first time, that he needs to say rasengan every time he uses the attack, which, is of course, untrue. there have been a few cases in which jutsu names arent shouted out.

unless there is a manga page that DOES say this. please show it to me.


also, im not arguing that itachi would beat madara, i disagree with this. im only countering little bits that i see in the arguments that i feel should be noted upon. again, feel free to correct me if im wrong.
 

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sometimes they don't say the attack out loud
besides, itachi can whisper it
then madara wont hear him say it
while madara is screaming
just to put this out there, unless its stated in the manga that a character needs to shout out the name of the attack in order to perform it, then stating that they must do so in order to use the attack just because they do so in the manga is also speculation.

that would be like saying because naruto says rasengan once when using it for the first time, that he needs to say rasengan every time he uses the attack, which, is of course, untrue. there have been a few cases in which jutsu names arent shouted out.

unless there is a manga page that DOES say this. please show it to me.


also, im not arguing that itachi would beat madara, i disagree with this. im only countering little bits that i see in the arguments that i feel should be noted upon. again, feel free to correct me if im wrong.


Itachi was never seen or implied to be whispering techniques of any sort. A logical approach is always best, this is a hypothetical situation in your favor.
 

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Your fallacious approach to the situation is rather comical as Canon is against you; not to mention that your not Masashi. Disregarding your biased speculations its quite obvious that your trolling as your opening statement and rebuttals are poorly constructed. Madara has means of countering Itachi's complete susano'o as he could simply attack from beneath susano'o itself [ ]. Itachi has no where near enough stamina and chakra and jutsu to compete with someone such as Madara and as regards Totsuka no Tsurugi and Yata no Kagami, madara already has canonical knowledge of both ethereal weapons (via zetsu) and their constructs and functions; which completely strikes out itachi making a successful hits with the weapons. Its overkill.
show me the pages that state he has the information and my Assumption cant be disprooved. same thing with dbz or any other show that has super natural fighting the say the names so the reader and the watcher no whats going on
 

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Itachi is indeed the true prodigy of the Uchiha.
 

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anyways point being Izanami Still hits madara hes done and madara wouldnt risk losing those eyes of his
 

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show me the pages that state he has the information and my Assumption cant be disprooved. same thing with dbz or any other show that has super natural fighting the say the names so the reader and the watcher no whats going on

Blackzetsu, Madara's will introduced both weapons, their mythological rudiments and functions in the manga. Your assumption, is what it is, an assumption. My initial post already provides the counter for izanami; in other words, your argument is futile.
 

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Blackzetsu, Madara's will introduced both weapons, their mythological rudiments and functions in the manga. Your assumption, is what it is, an assumption. My initial post already provides the counter for izanami; in other words, your argument is futile.
Thats Zetsu Show me the proof madara knew
 

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based on your logic the meteors are chakra enhanced

Oh god the stupidity again.They are not.They are drown down by attracking powers.They only need chakra to control their direction.That doesn't affect the consinstance of the object.
Kirin uses chakra to shape and control the tech.Is chakra based to the core,it doesn't just use natural energy.
 

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Itachi was never seen or implied to be whispering techniques of any sort. A logical approach is always best, this is a hypothetical situation in your favor.
itachi can say fireball jutsu while the fire is already coming out of his mouth
Itachi is indeed the true prodigy of the Uchiha.
that is correct
 

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Oh god the stupidity again.They are not.They are drown down by attracking powers.They only need chakra to control their direction.That doesn't affect the consinstance of the object.
Kirin uses chakra to shape and control the tech.Is chakra based to the core,it doesn't just use natural energy.

But Natural energy iis used
 

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He has to accept the fate to get out and weren't we talking about living madara and itachi

alive and dead...XD plus he can accept that he sux, but he has to figure out the loop first to get out..

don't forget kabuto realized he sux then he was still in it after itachi stopped izanamiXD
 

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But Natural energy iis used

yeah, the thing with izanami is yes you do get caught in an infinate loop, however those who accept themselves will probably be completely unaffected (from what i can understand)
madara is plenty aware of himself.
 

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yeah, the thing with izanami is yes you do get caught in an infinate loop, however those who accept themselves will probably be completely unaffected (from what i can understand)
madara is plenty aware of himself.

its a loop of actions, recorded by the eyes and mind and body, so can accepts his defeat, but he might not
realize the loop of contiuous movements.. he can use izanagi to break it but that will take his eye
 

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its a loop of actions, recorded by the eyes and mind and body, so can accepts his defeat, but he might not
realize the loop of contiuous movements.. he can use izanagi to break it but that will take his eye

ah okay. meh
 

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For all itachi invincible shit listen to this. He will pull out his Susano'o and become invincible, then 1 minutes later, Hes blind and dies.

ill admit itachis blindness is a major downfall for him (im an itachi fan but im not going to be biased about anything)

although itachi is rather persistant, not that it would make a difference.
 
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