Itachi is Overrated.

[OnPoint]

Are you honestly still grasping at that Tsukuyomi argument. Complete and utter wank. All things point to it not working. Nagato mastered Yin Release at age 10, and obviously this is the main component of genjutsu. He mastered it at age 10. Nagato was also capable of setting genjutsu traps in people's minds, something which many overlook. And finally, most importantly i'd say, Nagato possess a superior dojutsu to Itachi. 2 levels superior infact. That's like saying someone with a 3 tomoe sharingan could break out of an EMS user's genjutsu. Laughable. Yet the fanboys remain convinced he could one shot Nagato with that technique. Do me a favour. All low level Genjutsu techniques are rendered useless by Nagato's chakra rods which are implanted among his 7 summons. These rods constantly having chakra flowing through them, so Nagato can easily dispell such techniques by interrupting the chakra flow within them.

Some say Nagato is 'weak against genjustu' which is pathetic. He was caught in Jiraiya's sound genjutsu, which is totally different to visual genjutsu. I recall that Itachi was caught in Tayuya's sound genjutsu, and Sasuke had to break him out of it. Does this mean Itachi is weak against genjutsu? Now you can understand how retarded that statement (Nagato weak against genjutsu) really is. What's even funnier is that Tayuya's genjutsu is of a lower level to Jiraiya's. Nagato is actually quite proficient in the art of genjutsu.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Are you honestly still grasping at that Tsukuyomi argument. Complete and utter wank. All things point to it not working. Nagato mastered Yin Release at age 10, and obviously this is the main component of genjutsu. He mastered it at age 10. Nagato was also capable of setting genjutsu traps in people's minds, something which many overlook. And finally, most importantly i'd say, Nagato possess a superior dojutsu to Itachi. 2 levels superior infact. That's like saying someone with a 3 tomoe sharingan could break out of an EMS user's genjutsu. Laughable. Yet the fanboys remain convinced he could one shot Nagato with that technique. Do me a favour. All low level Genjutsu techniques are rendered useless by Nagato's chakra rods which are implanted among his 7 summons. These rods constantly having chakra flowing through them, so Nagato can easily dispell such techniques by interrupting the chakra flow within them.

Some say Nagato is 'weak against genjustu' which is pathetic. He was caught in Jiraiya's sound genjutsu, which is totally different to visual genjutsu. I recall that Itachi was caught in Tayuya's sound genjutsu, and Sasuke had to break him out of it. Does this mean Itachi is weak against genjutsu? Now you can understand how retarded that statement (Nagato weak against genjutsu) really is. What's even funnier is that Tayuya's genjutsu is of a lower level to Jiraiya's. Nagato is actually quite proficient in the art of genjutsu.

Fully agree with this its actually stated Ma and Pa Genjutsu is the strongest Genjutsu in the manga as well in the official databook

 

[Strict]

@iShodaime, but this doesn't count for Tsukuyomi since it can only being broke by an Uchiha who is using the Sharingan, as stated by Itachi. So why bring up the argument with Yin-Release?

And where do you get the info that Bansho Tenin would affect Itachi inside of Susanoo? The nail then was hanging out of the wood when Deva put it out of the wood. But how Bansho Tenin could affect one object inside of an other?

Even if he could pull him out, Susanoo could still catch him since it is acting even while Itachi is outside. Let's don't exaggerate with Nagatos possibilities here..

I agree that Nagato is the superior here but not with your absurd scenarios.

 

[Prince Charles]

@iShodaime, but this doesn't count for Tsukuyomi since it can only being broke by an Uchiha who is using the Sharingan, as stated by Itachi. So why bring up the argument with Yin-Release?

And where do you get the info that Bansho Tenin would affect Itachi inside of Susanoo? The nail then was hanging out of the wood when Deva put it out of the wood. But how Bansho Tenin could affect one object inside of an other?

Even if he could pull him out, Susanoo could still catch him since it is acting even while Itachi is outside. Let's don't exaggerate with Nagatos possibilities here..

I agree that Nagato is the superior here but not with your absurd scenarios.

this^^^ +rep

 

[OnPoint]

@iShodaime, but this doesn't count for Tsukuyomi since it can only being broke by an Uchiha who is using the Sharingan, as stated by Itachi. So why bring up the argument with Yin-Release?

And where do you get the info that Bansho Tenin would affect Itachi inside of Susanoo? The nail then was hanging out of the wood when Deva put it out of the wood. But how Bansho Tenin could affect one object inside of an other?

Even if he could pull him out, Susanoo could still catch him since it is acting even while Itachi is outside. Let's don't exaggerate with Nagatos possibilities here..

I agree that Nagato is the superior here but not with your absurd scenarios.

Is the Rinnegan not the progression beyond the EMS? Does it not, then, contain Uchiha blood? Further, Itachi also said that the best he could do against Jiraiya is draw. I know you don't share that view, so is it that you only go by the book when it suits you? Typical.

The Yin Release argument is for any other low level genjutsu Itachi dares to use.

You're simply not seeing the bigger picture. You're trying to nerf Nagato when it's pretty obvious Kishi made the Rinnegan overly HAX. Yes, he could pull Itachi out of Susanoo. Yes, he could pull away the spiritual weapons. I personally blame Kishi for making this particular dojutsu so powerful, and giving it to a character who ended up mastering it.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

@iShodaime, but this doesn't count for Tsukuyomi since it can only being broke by an Uchiha who is using the Sharingan, as stated by Itachi. So why bring up the argument with Yin-Release?

And where do you get the info that Bansho Tenin would affect Itachi inside of Susanoo? The nail then was hanging out of the wood when Deva put it out of the wood. But how Bansho Tenin could affect one object inside of an other?

Even if he could pull him out, Susanoo could still catch him since it is acting even while Itachi is outside. Let's don't exaggerate with Nagatos possibilities here..

I agree that Nagato is the superior here but not with your absurd scenarios.

The susanoo point i can agree with its quite troublesome that even if its destroyed the user can jsu summon it again which could work if hes pulled out of it although Madara wasnt fast enough maybe theres a time limit to the next susanoo being formed or perhaps its just plot

About the Tsukuyomi i made a interesting thread about it

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[Wakoo]

when u were born the doctor looked at ur mom and gave her a neck for making u
:sy:

 

[Midday]

And where do you get the info that Bansho Tenin would affect Itachi inside of Susanoo? The nail then was hanging out of the wood when Deva put it out of the wood. But how Bansho Tenin could affect one object inside of an other?

Even if he could pull him out, Susanoo could still catch him since it is acting even while Itachi is outside. Let's don't exaggerate with Nagatos possibilities here..

I agree that Nagato is the superior here but not with your absurd scenarios.

A better question is why wouldn't bansho tennin work against Itachi whilst inside susanoo, since when did susanoo make Itachi immune to gravity? He is able to pull his target and only that, that's why I mention the nail.

What about pulling susanoo instead? It still leaves him open to the soul dragon.

This may be speculation, but Madara's meteor jutsu seemed like a combination of bansho tennin and susanoo to amplify it. He was inside the susanoo and able to pull a meteor from space, the reverse must be possible then.

The part about susanoo acting on his own and you're telling me to not over exaggerate the possibilities? It just disappeared after Madara was removed.

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[Chojuro Sama Kun]

..Dude just search it in the Search Bar. You'll find a bunch of shitty threads like this.

 

[Gèckö]

Is the Rinnegan not the progression beyond the EMS? Does it not, then, contain Uchiha blood? Further, Itachi also said that the best he could do against Jiraiya is draw. I know you don't share that view, so is it that you only go by the book when it suits you? Typical.

The Yin Release argument is for any other low level genjutsu Itachi dares to use.

You're simply not seeing the bigger picture. You're trying to nerf Nagato when it's pretty obvious Kishi made the Rinnegan overly HAX. Yes, he could pull Itachi out of Susanoo. Yes, he could pull away the spiritual weapons. I personally blame Kishi for making this particular dojutsu so powerful, and giving it to a character who ended up mastering it.

wtf last time i checked nagato was uzumaki so now he's uzumaki and uchiha
i personally believe that jiraiya would beat itachi

 

[TenTen Fanbase]

Yea so do I.But Gedo Mazo is the key here.

 

[Redd]

Peolple say itachi this itachi that.

Itachi vs Nagato.Nagato Is the second sage of the six paths.Nagato can fly for goodness sakes.Deva path basically was soloing the nine tailed fox.

Deva path is enough for itachi.The others are overkill.

Nagato has counters for everything he can throw at him.

Amaterasu:

Nagato uses shinra Tensei to blow the flames away.

Susanoo:

Asura path sucks up susanoo.

Tsukiyomi:Nagato has shared vision to protect him.If its the paths He only cathes one while the others get itachi.

Izanami:Nagato is pure of heart.Wont work.

Totsuka blade:Nagato flys away before he gets caught by it.


Nagato was distracted by Killer Bee and Naruto so thats why he got sealed.
Killer bee and Naruto >Itachi.

Nagato >Itachi

what does that even mean?

 

[OnPoint]

wtf last time i checked nagato was uzumaki so now he's uzumaki and uchiha
i personally believe that jiraiya would beat itachi

Please, use some logic. Nagato's eyes were implanted, and they likely are the same ones which were awakened by Madara. The same eyes which progressed from the EMS, although implanting them in Nagato meant that he was only capable of using the Rinnegan techniques (as that was the form it was in when it was initially implanted into him). Thus, he has some Uchiha DNA.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

what does that even mean?

Tobi called Nagato the 3rd Sage of 6 paths

Jiraya called Nagato the recarnation of the sage of 6 paths

I think thats what he means

 

[Go0Go0]

Izanami wont work? Oh tell me more about how he still cant use it?

 

[enditallsin]

I don't see how itachi would be able to cast a genjusts on nagato when in order to do that he MUST stream his chakra into nagatos nervous cerebral nervous system,soooo HOW IN THE HELL WOULD ITACHI BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF HIS CHAKRAS ABSORBED EVERY TIME,remember rinnegan can see chakra,plus he can sense it sooo its not really a question of how nagato would break tsukiyomi, its more question of how itachi would even be able to cast it before he dies.

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

Peolple say itachi this itachi that.

Itachi vs Nagato.Nagato Is the second sage of the six paths.Nagato can fly for goodness sakes.Deva path basically was soloing the nine tailed fox.

Deva path is enough for itachi.The others are overkill.

Nagato has counters for everything he can throw at him.

Amaterasu:

Nagato uses shinra Tensei to blow the flames away.

Susanoo:

Asura path sucks up susanoo.

Tsukiyomi:Nagato has shared vision to protect him.If its the paths He only cathes one while the others get itachi.

Izanami:Nagato is pure of heart.Wont work.

Totsuka blade:Nagato flys away before he gets caught by it.


Nagato was distracted by Killer Bee and Naruto so thats why he got sealed.
Killer bee and Naruto >Itachi.

Nagato >Itachi

:sy:

I wouldn't be suprise if dumbass was your middle name

Nagato wouldn't be able to just blow away Amaterasu there's only 5 seconds what is he going to do when the 5 seconds are up??? Amaterasu already destroyed some of Nagato body the only reason he got back up was because he was a edo

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Nagato gonna fly away on his summoning and get away your right :sy:

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[Itachi Sarutobi]

This thread again...

 

[TheBlackDevil]

Maybe...but perhaps Itachi would have been stronger than Nagato if it hadn't been for his illness?

 

[SilverSlick]

Peolple say itachi this itachi that.

Itachi vs Nagato.Nagato Is the second sage of the six paths.Nagato can fly for goodness sakes.Deva path basically was soloing the nine tailed fox.

Deva path is enough for itachi.The others are overkill.

Nagato has counters for everything he can throw at him.

Amaterasu:

Nagato uses shinra Tensei to blow the flames away.

Susanoo:

Asura path sucks up susanoo.

Tsukiyomi:Nagato has shared vision to protect him.If its the paths He only cathes one while the others get itachi.

Izanami:Nagato is pure of heart.Wont work.

Totsuka blade:Nagato flys away before he gets caught by it.


Nagato was distracted by Killer Bee and Naruto so thats why he got sealed.
Killer bee and Naruto >Itachi.

Nagato >Itachi

Wrong. Tobi is the second 6 paths. Nagato is third.