Itachi is not invincible..

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Did you say chakra is life force? You're already wrong, and stamina is required to use your chakra? Mind telling me what itachi was doing sh*tting on everyone in the series with no stamina, yet able to use such life risking technique on top of that?

You what M8?
Chakra (チャクラ, chakura) is essential to even the most basic technique; it is the moulding of the physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) present in every cell of the body and the spiritual energy(Aka life energy) (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī) gained from exercise and experience(aka stamina).
And what do you mean Itachi had no stamina, the only time hes been truly fatigued was while fighting against sasuke...also he died...of fatigue...from lack of stamina...and chakra....
 
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They said shields, not chakra shields nor spiritual/transformation shields. I promise that the weapon you show there would not break the 3rd Raikage's (or even the Ay's). Anyway, it's just an anime, so Kishimoto could make a character say something and then make it into something else, so everything is possible.
 

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How are you so sure physical attacks won't work?

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1. Fire ball jutsu - That jutsu automatically explodes on impact

2. Oro's Eight Headed serpent - Susano'o charged at it, it didn't charge at the Yata mirror and deflect automatcally.

3. paper bombs.. explode on impact as well.

I'm just saying if Kabutowari bashes the Yata Mirror, it will crack...This is just my assumption..
 

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You what M8?
Chakra (チャクラ, chakura) is essential to even the most basic technique; it is the moulding of the physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) present in every cell of the body and the spiritual energy(Aka life energy) (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī) gained from exercise and experience(aka stamina).
And what do you mean Itachi had no stamina, the only time hes been truly fatigued was while fighting against sasuke...also he died...of fatigue...from lack of stamina...and chakra....

I thank you for highlighting physical energy and spiritual energy, now tell me how is that related to life force or life energy? Hashirama used chakra to convert to like energy naruto wiki:"By converting chakra into the source of life, he was able to create wood and plants from the ground of or his very being, causing them to grow to great sizes and manipulate them to diverse shapes and battle uses at will and in an instant, he could shape the entire battlefield for his own uses." There is a difference, itachi does not have gifted life force like hashirama, naruto, and nagato etc. which life risking moves would not drastically effect the user.
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As long as this thread goes is become more uselles, tha fact in manga is..... 1st Itachi dead ( have yata mirror or not he is dead ) 2nd that weapon from 7 swordman is dead to. So if they are so powerfull why this person dead?? Death mean you lose....like sasuka vs itachi. Sasuke win why itachi death, dead becouse that is time itachi go to death. Just that.....don't like about the story go.??stop reading and make your own manga......is better if you write how and when itachi got his susano...or how 7 swordman begin....
 

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So just because a pair of explosive tags and a kunai has been proven useless against it, it means that the shield is invincible against ALL physical attacks, no?

No ammount of sugar-coating by your part can prove that the shield is invulnerable to ALL physical attacks.

And then I ask you this simple question, do you discredit Kabutowari's hype?

Gaara's Sand was said to be the ultimate defense, so was the 3rd raikage's Raiton armour and also The Yata mirror. Common sense and being attuned with the manga should allow you to decipher which is truer of the three.






And it works this way as Sasuke has already discredited Gaara's Sand hype:


I thought this was already understood.
 

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As long as this thread goes is become more uselles, tha fact in manga is..... 1st Itachi dead ( have yata mirror or not he is dead ) 2nd that weapon from 7 swordman is dead to. So if they are so powerfull why this person dead?? Death mean you lose....like sasuka vs itachi. Sasuke win why itachi death, dead becouse that is time itachi go to death. Just that.....don't like about the story go.??stop reading and make your own manga......is better if you write how and when itachi got his susano...or how 7 swordman begin....

No, this post is irrelevant to the topic, this is about fans taking hiperbole literally for some things, and deliberatly ignoring it in other instances, when it's not their fav's powers/attacks, the intent of this thread it's to showcase the hypocrisy of some fans, nothing else, there's no need to be upset about it.
 

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I thank you for highlighting physical energy and spiritual energy, now tell me how is that related to life force or life energy? Hashirama used chakra to convert to like energy naruto wiki:"By converting chakra into the source of life, he was able to create wood and plants from the ground of or his very being, causing them to grow to great sizes and manipulate them to diverse shapes and battle uses at will and in an instant, he could shape the entire battlefield for his own uses." There is a difference, itachi does not have gifted life force like hashirama, naruto, and nagato etc. which life risking moves would not drastically effect the user.

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Also you kinda even said that life energy can be chakra....
also what does that last part even matter? you're basically agreeing with me that itachi died because of fatigue
 
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Of course, Itachi solos is a big lie also.
 

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Gaara's Sand was said to be the ultimate defense, so was the 3rd raikage's Raiton armour and also The Yata mirror. Common sense and being attuned with the manga should allow you to decipher which is truer of the three.






And it works this way as Sasuke has already discredited Gaara's Sand hype:


I thought this was already understood.

That's not my point, what is this ''truer'' thing?, your logic is that the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence, so yata mirror don't have any weak point because it hasn't been shown/implied?

That common sense and being attuned with the manga remark is just conjecture on your part, I'm perfectly attuned with it, I just don't buy this.

Sorry If I may seem skeptical, but I just can't stand this kind of statements.
 
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And regarding that wood explanation
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Also you kinda even said that life energy can be chakra....
also what does that last part even matter? you're basically agreeing with me that itachi died because of fatigue


Itachi died of fatigue yes, but it is not because he has low chakra reserve. That's the point i'm making
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Itachi died of fatigue yes, but it is not because he has low chakra reserve. That's the point i'm making
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I don't see how this disproves any of my argument, you just provided proof that stamina is effected by chakra usage and there is a limit on Physical/Spiritual engery or other wise life energy.
 
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Kabutowari crushes ALL defenses, it's in the manga too, are you going to discredit that hype?, if so then kindly discredit the yata mirror's one too, or show your double standards/hypocrisy, your choice.

normal weapons and spirit weapons are different.... accept the facts. its in yo face
 

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I'm really glad I didn't take much part in this :happy:
 

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Actually, Tsunade and Raikage were able to destroy Madara's Susano'o with their bare hands.. physical attacks do work on spiritual things like Susanoo.

susanoo is not spiritual, only the yata mirror
 

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The Kabutowari is a physical weapon, not ethereal and is therefore useless against Yata.
if yatas not physical how can it block anything? itd be like obito, a ghost mode thing
 

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You know, I've honestly given up trying to find out of the mirror is what it is or isn't. My only hope now is that sasuke acquires it and we get some answers from him.
 
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