Itachi Had Kagutsuchi?

[Booker]

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He stopped the flames.

Either Itachi had Kagutsuchi, or stopping Amaterasu flames is already an implied power with Amaterasu spawning.

 

[Neonian]

He stopped it by his own will.

 

[VongolaX]

It's not a special power, if you have amatersu you can simply put it out or stop it

 

[OWanime]

yeah but C (raikage's sensor) said that sasuke's control (enton) is better. You even see itachi, after sasuke dodged it the first time use enton to control them until they touched him xd

 

[Booker]

It's not a special power, if you have amatersu you can simply put it out or stop it

Heheheehehehheehe

I agree though. Was just curious as to what others thought.

 

[abodi mohi]

because saske can make amateraso guard

 

[Sir Blades]

Interesting, i never really put much attention to that detail.

 

[Aotsuki Katsumi]

Well the Enton: Kagutsuchi seems to be a special feature of Sasuke's Mangekyo, while Itachi's special feature could possibly be the time-perception property inherent in his Tsukuyomi. Ideologically Itachi was an illusionary-lying character from the moment life put its grasp around him so his illusionary ability seems to correspond to that while Sasuke eventually developed into a character with a highly lethal and precise darkness, which can correspond to the Kagutsuchi.

I wonder if Madara and Izuna had special properties to their Mangekyos..... Tobirama knew about the Kagutsuchi so someone must have had that feature before, but who´s to say only named characters have had the Mangekyo Sharingan.....

 

[Prime Rib]

It takes skill in amat as itachi was skilled in it to but not like sauske. its like the total opposite sauske sucks with Tuskyomoi but Itachi is highly skilled compared to him in the usage

 

[Owarij]

Didn't you see Itachi control the flames and throw them onto Sasuke in their fight?

Shee also simply said that Sasuke had BETTER control of amaterasu than Itachi

 

[BlackFlame44]

Didn't you see Itachi control the flames and throw them onto Sasuke in their fight?

Shee also simply said that Sasuke had BETTER control of amaterasu than Itachi

That was Amaterasu itachi didn't have inferno style

 

[Transcendence]

What Sasuke has over Itachi with Amaterasu is his Enton Mastery. He is able to apply shape manipulation to an extent. He's used it for different purposes, like the Amaterasu Orb he spawned to hurl balls of Amaterasu at the Zetsu or the Flame Control Sword (Enton) which took the composite form of Amaterasu flames. Itachi has displayed his ability to spawn Amaterasu and track people with it (And put it out) which is similar in contrast to Sasuke using Tsukuyomi on Danzo who stated that Sasuke's control with Tsukuyomi isn't on par with Itachi; like what Cee implied when referencing Itachi and Sasuke in regards to Amaterasu.

 

[Brihl]

Didn't you see Itachi control the flames and throw them onto Sasuke in their fight?

Shee also simply said that Sasuke had BETTER control of amaterasu than Itachi

Itachi does not have 'Kagutsuchi'.

 

[GOD2U]

That ability comes with it. Sasukebwas just better at controlling it, while itachi was better at tsukyuomi, madara was better at susanoo, Obito kamui and shisui at his jutsu.

 

[Brihl]

That ability comes with it.

Kagutsuchi is an extension of Enton, not Amaterasu.

Sasukebwas just better at controlling it

Kagutsuchi is Sasuke's other Mangekyou technique after Amaterasu. Sasuke can manipulate Enton better because it is his Mangekyou ability. Itachi has 'Tsukuyomi' in place of Kagutsuchi because it is his Mangekyou's ability.

while itachi was better at tsukyuomi, madara was better at susanoo, Obito kamui and shisui at his jutsu.

• Tsukuyomi was an ability of Itachi's Mangekyou alongside Amaterasu; Sasuke's Mangekyou has Kagutsuchi in place of Tsukuyomi alongside with Amaterasu, but now that Sasuke possesses an Eien no Mangekyou Sharingan, he should have Tsukuyomi.
• Madara's Susanoo is now supplemented by the ocular powers of Izuna, and it is implied to be what allowed Madara to better manipulate his Susanoo. As opposed to the initial and final stages of the Mangekyou Sharingan where Susanoo is a product of the user's own chakra; the Eien no Mangekyou Sharingan is the joined powers of the donor's Mangekyou and the receiver's Mangekyou and it allows Susanoo to reach its
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  . The mastery of the combined ocular powers of the donor and recipient's Mangekyou Sharingan is the requisite that allows superior control over the immense chakra construction.
• The abilities of Obito's Mangekyou differ within each eye, elaborate.
• The abilities of Shisui's Mangekyou differ within each eye, elaborate.

 

[Owarij]

Itachi does not have 'Kagutsuchi'.

Kagutsuchi is simply flame control..Itachi has Kagutsuchi, he doesn't have blazerelease and he has displayed some basic control of amaterasu but NOT its form , like Sasuke has... in the manga thus far, he has turned it off and directed its path

 

[BlackFlame44]

Kagutsuchi is simply flame control..Itachi has Kagutsuchi, he doesn't have blazerelease and he has displayed some basic control of amaterasu but NOT its form , like Sasuke has... in the manga thus far, he has turned it off and directed its path

THis makes little sense whatsoever :|

 

[Brihl]

Kagutsuchi is simply flame control..Itachi has Kagutsuchi

… (Correct me if I am wrong.)

Kagutsuchi is Keitai Henka applied to Enton, the flames of Amaterasu. Keitai Henka manipulates the form of chakra itself to create the "shape" of Ninjutsu and controls the power, range, and effect of chakra; it brings qualitative changes to the power, space, and resolution of chakra, which ultimately produces new techniques or jutsu. Therefore, Itachi does not have Kagutsuchi, the ability to apply Keitai Henka to Enton.

he doesn't have blazerelease

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Blaze Release is Enton, the black flames of Amaterasu. Enton is the Seishitsu Henka or nature transformation that allows the ignition of it or Amaterasu to be possible. Thus, by extension, Itachi has ‘Blaze Release’ or Enton because it is the nature transformation that necessitates Amaterasu.

he has displayed some basic control of amaterasu but NOT its form , like Sasuke has... in the manga thus far, he has turned it off and directed its path

Enton only stops once either its target dissipates or a week passes, suppressing already existing flames that dissipating an object is a different matter in its entirely; a feature only witness through the Mangekyou of Sasuke. In the case of Itachi controlling Amaterasu, that is incorrect, he produced Amaterasu multiple times in streams which gave it a “lingering” effect at the concentric point. On the matter of Itachi turning off Amaterasu that is partially true depending on your definition “off”.Zetsu claimed Itachi “stopped” Amaterasu to chase after Sasuke’s eyes. To clarify, Zetsu claimed that Itachi stopped using the technique, Amaterasu, to advance to Sasuke’s eyes. He did not extinguish it. [

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That leaves the question, if Itachi did extinguish the flames, why would the author create a chapter specifically entitled

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showing Sasuke questioning the ability of his Mangekyou Sharingan after encountering his brother that, by your admission, showed the same technique, 'Kagutsuchi'?

• For Sasuke, Enton was not stopped, but is manipulated and extinguished by the use of his right ocular power “Kagutsuchi.”