Itachi Genjutsu >> Sensory

[Amenotejikara]

If sensory is such an effective counter, why did kabuto need to close his eyes?

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Manga makes it seem sensory is useless to signal them of genjutsu

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[lndra]

Did you somehow misread the part where it said Itachi Uchiha's Genjutsu? Itachi had a way to counter a lot of people with his illusions.

Regardless.

I. Kabuto is under Izanami, he doesn't know what that ability is, but he is assuming he is under one of Itachi's illusions.

II. We don't know much about Ao's sensory unit, though he has a Byakugan, so it might not really be a sensor unit in the way Naruto or Karin are sensors. Hard to tell really.

The rest of it are meh. Just Itachi stuff we already know, he's a master illusionist.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

If sensory is such an effective counter, why did kabuto need to close his eyes?

How does this statement even make sense?

Sensory gives you the ability to not rely on vision. The point is to close your eyes!

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

what a retarded thread

 

[Amenotejikara]

How does this statement even make sense?

Sensory gives you the ability to not rely on vision. The point is to close your eyes!

Did you somehow misread the part where it said Itachi Uchiha's Genjutsu? Itachi had a way to counter a lot of people with his illusions.

Regardless.

I. Kabuto is under Izanami, he doesn't know what that ability is, but he is assuming he is under one of Itachi's illusions.

II. We don't know much about Ao's sensory unit, though he has a Byakugan, so it might not really be a sensor unit in the way Naruto or Karin are sensors. Hard to tell really.

The rest of it are meh. Just Itachi stuff we already know, he's a master illusionist.

No the point of sensory is aware you that genjutsu is coming is it not? If it do there's no reason to close one's eyes unless i'm forgetting something. and this isn't a statement it's a question.

 

[Genocide]

No the point of sensory is aware you that genjutsu is coming is it not? If it do there's no reason to close one's eyes unless i'm forgetting something. and this isn't a statement it's a question.

sensory is to sense if anything is coming

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

This is why he can one-shot the strongest people. You really can't counter his genjutsu, only clans men can somewhat resist it but everyone else is screwed.

 

[Amenotejikara]

sensory is to sense if anything is coming

exactly then what's the point of closing one's eyes? if you can sense "genjutsu" as people claim, then they would already be prepared to counter it with chakra disruption. the point i'm saying is just having sensory isn't enough to counter visual genjutsu.

 

[SenseiSama]

Believe the hype

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[Amenotejikara]

This is why he can one-shot the strongest people. You really can't counter his genjutsu, only clans men can somewhat resist it but everyone else is screwed.

Yeah I don't know where the sensory > genjutsu began. I understand it works with closing one's eyes. but people make it seem like they can keep their eyes on contact as long as they have sensory and still be able to counter genjutsu. it just doesn't work that way. atleast not against itachi.

 

[Im Still Robin]

Not Minato's.

Can sense the Kyuubi miles and miles and miles away, useless pathetic counter.

Also sensed Obito when focused on the kyuubi.

Sensed raikage coming after him (because there's no way in hell he could fully react with a full turn around to look at raikage then think where he is going to teleport in time.. he has godlike reaction time and reflexes but not like that)

Sensory is for prepping and or countering is the after.

Being a sensor is like... how can I make you bums understand...Like sharingan, being able to see what comes next from the opponent. Just because you can see it (just because you can sense it coming before it actually comes) doesn't mean you can dodge it... IF you don't have the reflexes and etc. (Doesn't mean you can stop it...IF you don't have the methods and abilities and etc.)

Minato does and that is why FTG and Minato is the best thing to defeat Itachi with yet people are so goddamn sure he's invincible but he's not :elmo:

People only see Itachi winning with his hax abilities because they only use the simplistic ways to counter any argument put against him (which is effective asf not going to lie) all I have to do is do the same with Minato which is more effective XD

 

[gerizzyYMcrew]

Believe the hype

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it's like kishimoto was foreshadowing sasuke's potential

 

[Genocide]

exactly then what's the point of closing one's eyes? if you can sense "genjutsu" as people claim, then they would already be prepared to counter it with chakra disruption. the point i'm saying is just having sensory isn't enough to counter visual genjutsu.

im pretty sure he closed his eyes because he thought that itachi couldnt genjutsu him without direct eye contact

 

[lndra]

No the point of sensory is aware you that genjutsu is coming is it not? If it do there's no reason to close one's eyes unless i'm forgetting something. and this isn't a statement it's a question.

There's different types of sensory-abilities I think, or at least what they claim is a sensor in the Manga. In terms of Dojutsu/Actual sensing abilities/other tracking capabilities.

If you're talking about Naruto/Karin's way of sensing, I think it holds true based on examples. In the first scan, Izanami isn't really your normal Genjutsu.

 

[JStar King]

How does this statement even make sense?

Sensory gives you the ability to not rely on vision. The point is to close your eyes!

That's what I was saying.

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[JStar King]

im pretty sure he closed his eyes because he thought that itachi couldnt genjutsu him without direct eye contact

Dude, I bet if you look up asspull right now, Izanami would pop up.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yeah I don't know where the sensory > genjutsu began. I understand it works with closing one's eyes. but people make it seem like they can keep their eyes on contact as long as they have sensory and still be able to counter genjutsu. it just doesn't work that way. atleast not against itachi.

I think it was during the era of nagato and minato on how he can counter itachi. But after I reread the viz manga over two days ago, they openly admitted that genjutsu was nagato's weakness.
Funny thing is that almost every sensor that went up against a genjutsu user got caught in a genjutsu. Genjutsu has already been confirmed instant in the databook so their's no excuse for dodging anymore. Once the eyes lock it's all over.

 

[Im Still Robin]

What people fail to understand is Itachi's genjutsu is activated 24/7... his sharingan is, yes, but that does not mean automatic genjutsu as people are presevied to believe these days.

It's only automatic genjutsu when he uses the chakra to activate it and they make eye contact. He also has subtitle ways such as crows, finger, etc which STILL requires the build up of chakra and the activation of the genjutsu itself.

Itachi still has to mold chakra. What do are sensors are able to do (some)? Sense chakra :elmo:

Activates genjutsu on eye contact, gg to that sensor.

 

[lndra]

Is Izanami a Genjutsu based on eye contact or does it only work through physical memory?

 

[Amenotejikara]

Not Minato's.

Can sense the Kyuubi miles and miles and miles away, useless pathetic counter.

Also sensed Obito when focused on the kyuubi.

Sensed raikage coming after him (because there's no way in hell he could fully react with a full turn around to look at raikage then think where he is going to teleport in time.. he has godlike reaction time and reflexes but not like that)

Sensory is for prepping and or countering is the after.

Being a sensor is like... how can I make you bums understand...Like sharingan, being able to see what comes next from the opponent. Just because you can see it (just because you can sense it coming before it actually comes) doesn't mean you can dodge it... IF you don't have the reflexes and etc. (Doesn't mean you can stop it...IF you don't have the methods and abilities and etc.)

Minato does and that is why FTG and Minato is the best thing to defeat Itachi with yet people are so goddamn sure he's invincible but he's not :elmo:

People only see Itachi winning with his hax abilities because they only use the simplistic ways to counter any argument put against him (which is effective asf not going to lie) all I have to do is do the same with Minato which is more effective XD

no you fodder. his FTG is his counter to genjutsu, how many times I got to keep telling you this?

The reason kabuto closed his eyes had nothing to do with over relying on sensory. he closed his eyes to counter genjutsu. because kabuto knew that genjutsu (of any kind) would not be sensed by his sensory. it's null. that's what i'm saying. what i'm debunking is that sensory against itachi signals kabuto then the latter uses his chakra control to disperse it. that's purely fanfic. so for example: if sage mode naruto fought itachi, if he make eye contact, the former is caught. sensory doesn't alert period. the same logic applies to minato.