itachi,five kage,shikamaru,vs hashirama,edo madera

who wins

  • itachi,five kage,shikamaru

    Votes: 9 37.5%
  • hashirama,edo madera

    Votes: 15 62.5%

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Itachi Namikaze

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Please explain to me how it affected Hiruzen and both of his shadow clones at the same time then, with it being cast only once. What is canon the manga or data book? which do we go with when there is a conflict? I would say manga. You obviously say data book.

However, just for the sake of argument i'll simply say Hiruzen casts bringer 7 times.

I don't think the kages would be able to stop a meteor they can't see. I suppose they could potentially hear it, but I don't think it would matter.
Hiruzen used the shadow clone jutsu after being put into the bringer of darkness genjutsu, that is why it affected him. If it even did affect his clones. How do you know that it did? He used his clones for one purpose and they went straight for the kages, so obviously they knew where they were.

Bringer of darkness is a short range genjutsu, unless Hashirama (not Hiruzen) were in close range to them then he would be unable to pull it off, and especially not be able to use it 7 times before he was killed. Unlike Edo Madara, Hashi cannot tank a dust release attack.
 

TheBattousai

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Hiruzen used the shadow clone jutsu after being put into the bringer of darkness genjutsu, that is why it affected him. If it even did affect his clones. How do you know that it did? He used his clones for one purpose and they went straight for the kages, so obviously they knew where they were.

Bringer of darkness is a short range genjutsu, unless Hashirama (not Hiruzen) were in close range to them then he would be unable to pull it off, and especially not be able to use it 7 times before he was killed. Unlike Edo Madara, Hashi cannot tank a dust release attack.
I suggest you re-read chapter 122 and 123. In chapter 122 he cast shadow clones prior to bringer being cast. In chapter 123 It shows his shadow clone located and grabbed them by him using scent (it shows him sniffing and then reaching out).
 

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hmm i wonder if hashirama was a sage they havent said anything about it yet but you never know we didnt eeven find out about dragon sage until recently
 
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