Itachi failed again

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lmao itachi prolly did more in that one instance than what most people in nv did in their entire lives.

And honestly i think your expectations were too high were you believing itachi to end the biggest war in nv history by himself. He came very close to it if madara didnt know the seals or someone who told him died out, guess what he would have soloed that war. Yes sasuke was with him and did help out but if itachi had intentions to use izanami form the start he could have accomplished it on his own.
What you don't understand is that Itachi is the reason why Madara is threatening the world right now. If he didn't release the souls recklessly, Madara would have never had the possibility to break the summoning contract, to be an uncontrolled Edo tensei with unlimited chakra and undying body threatening the world right now
 

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What you don't understand is that Itachi is the reason why Madara is threatening the world right now. If he didn't release the souls recklessly, Madara would have never had the possibility to break the summoning contract, to be an uncontrolled Edo tensei with unlimited chakra and undying body threatening the world right now

Madara was already that, regardless of whether he freed himself. Kabuto wasn't controlling him at all and Madara was still going on a killing spree. Nothing has changed...
 

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Madara was already that, regardless of whether he freed himself. Kabuto wasn't controlling him at all and Madara was still going on a killing spree. Nothing has changed...
Kabuto was not controlling him because he wanted Madara to be do things with his own free will, but Madara was still bound by Kabuto. He couldn't release the summoning contract under Kabuto's control. That's why he didn't do it before. By releasing the souls, Itachi gave the possibility to do so because at that moment, the Edo can do whatever he wants
 

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Kabuto was not controlling him because he wanted Madara to be do things with his own free will, but Madara was still bound by Kabuto. He couldn't release the summoning contract under Kabuto's control. That's why he didn't do it before. By releasing the souls, Itachi gave the possibility to do so because at that moment, the Edo can do whatever he wants

It doesn't matter if he couldn't release the Edo Tensei at all because he wouldn't have done anything different to what he has already showed us. He is the same.
 

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Lol, butthurt insecure Minato fanboy. Typical.


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Bogard is intentionally doing this for a response lol.

Anyway you are wrong.
In the first image, kabuto was talking about killing the edo tensei user which would mean that the technique cannot be stopped.

Second image. Dan was right, he can move his body according to his will. However that is because before itachi released the technique he like the other edo's were being controlled by kabuto. Madara however had free will from the very start, so he was moving and doing what he wanted to do from the start.

Madara wasn't talking about itachi when he said never use a kinjutsu. Dafuq?
Does he even know what was going on between kabuto and the uchiha's to know what technique was used on kabuto. He was as clueless as the kage's. [ ]

Not that he didnt say 'tell the one who summoned it, you shouldn't use forbidden jutsus".
unless itachi summoned him, its kabuto this statement obviously refers to.
 

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It doesn't matter if he couldn't release the Edo Tensei at all because he wouldn't have done anything different to what he has already showed us. He is the same.
It does matter because under Kabuto's control, Madara can be stopped. Kabuto can simply erase Madara's will like he did with other Edos. In this state, Madara could do nothing when releasing the souls. Like Kabuto could also put him in his coffin again before. There were plenty of ways. Itachi simply didn't think about the possibility that just releasing souls could give opportunities to some Edos to break free, because he simply didn't think about the possibility it was possible. That's where he was reckless
 

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It does matter because under Kabuto's control, Madara can be stopped. Kabuto can simply erase Madara's will like he did with other Edos. In this state, Madara could do nothing when releasing the souls. Like Kabuto could also put him in his coffin again before. There were plenty of ways. Itachi simply didn't think about the possibility that just releasing souls could give opportunities to some Edos to break free, because he simply didn't think about the possibility it was possible. That's where he was reckless


What you're saying implies that Kabuto would at one point want to stop Madara, which isn't true at all. He has shown no indication whatsoever that he would seal Madara back into the coffin, in fact it has been the opposite. :happy:
 

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Bogard is intentionally doing this for a response lol.In the first image, kabuto was talking about killing the edo tensei user which would mean that the technique cannot be stopped.
Lol maybe :p But i disagree with your statement. Nothing implies he was only talking about killing the Edo tensei user. Maybe he knew Madara knew the seals(possibly) and he was also referring to that.

Second image. Dan was right, he can move his body according to his will. However that is because before itachi released the technique he like the other edo's were being controlled by kabuto. Madara however had free will from the very start, so he was moving and doing what he wanted to do from the start.
Madara had free will because Kabuto allowed it to exactly like he allowed Deidara to have free will. Doesn't mean they are still not bound by him and that he couldn't control their movements when he wants. That's why Madara couldn't do whatever he wants while still under Kabuto's control

Madara wasn't talking about itachi when he said never use a kinjutsu. Dafuq?
Does he even know what was going on between kabuto and the uchiha's to know what technique was used on kabuto. He was as clueless as the kage's. [ ]
Didn't say Madara was directly referring to Itachi. He was reffering to kabuto, but the statement was indirectly referring to Itachi because it's Itachi the one who released souls recklessly, not Kabuto
 

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Isn't Itachi the fail king?
 

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Lol maybe :p But i disagree with your statement. Nothing implies he was only talking about killing the Edo tensei user. Maybe he knew Madara knew the seals(possibly) and he was also referring to that.

Erm no, he warned them about 3 times throughout the fight the consequence of killing him. Also you have no proof of that kabuto knew that madara knew the seals, so you are right when you used the words " Maybe he knew Madara knew the seals(possibly) and he was also referring to that".

Secondly i would like to think kabuto is fairly smart. To give madara his free will, while knowing that madara knows the seals to break free seems ridiculous. Come on now

Madara had free will because Kabuto allowed it to exactly like he allowed Deidara to have free will. Doesn't mean they are still not bound by him and that he couldn't control their movements when he wants. That's why Madara couldn't do whatever he wants while still under Kabuto's control

Actually i disagree with madara being bound fro, the start.
Kabuto strengthened his control by using oro's chakra in anko.

But it appears there are shinobi's who's chakra are so immense that they can fight off the control.
Hashirama showed us this. It seems Tobirama was close to overcoming it, if not for his brother's cells that orochimaru has taken over.

What i am trying to say, kabuto's binding is weaker than current orochimaru's.
Hashirama and madara has been portrayed as the cream of the crop, who are nearly invincible.
Madara should and could have broken kabuto's control but he didn't, firstly because its in his nature to see how things follow through then when needed take action. Secondly he didn't resist because there was nothing to resist, he was in control of his body from the start


Didn't say Madara was directly referring to Itachi. He was reffering to kabuto, but the statement was indirectly referring to Itachi because it's Itachi the one who released souls recklessly, not Kabuto

That is your interpretation, but as you noted he was clearly talking about kabuto.
I know i am being trolled here btw
 
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Am i the only one who noticed that Itachi fanboys are getting reduced day by day O_O

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This is him fate. At least it was a nice try, but Madara is on the other level and can not be stopped by someone like Itachi.
 
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