Itachi didn't use Tsukuyomi in his fight against Sasuke

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But it could have also been from the fact that he anticipated him being that powerful beforehand. The exclamation marks tend to appear more when someone has lost their composure, which Itachi never did, but Black Zetsu seemed to be convinced Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi. Was it full power is arguable, but it seems evident that even if it wasn’t, Sasuke broke the illusion rather than being released from it. I’d also wager to say it’s a different experience to be released from Genjutsu than to forcibly break it.
That in itself is unlikely. If he anticipated it before hand he wouldn't hold back against Hebi Sasuke. If he truly thought he was strong enough to counter his Tsukiyomi technique. He cannot realize he's in the illusion at that power level. Which he was in.
 
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That in itself is unlikely. If he anticipated it before hand he wouldn't hold back against Hebi Sasuke. If he truly thought he was strong enough to counter his Tsukiyomi technique. He cannot realize he's in the illusion at that power level. Which he was in.
You can only not realize a Genjutsu illusion if you lack the strength to counter it, see Itachi vs Kurenai. And Itachi anticipated Sasuke countering everything he threw at him, being that he never intended to kill him. While he may not have used Tsukuyomi at full strength, two things are sure : 1. The jutsu in use is Tsukuyomi and 2. Whatever level it was at, it was broken, rather than released.

No one has ever mistaken a Genjutsu’s release for them having broken it, much less Sasuke, who can see chakra with his Sharingan.
 

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Manga stated it was Tsukuyomi, Itachi's visible strain (holding his eye) after Sasuke broke the Genjutsu further emphasizes this. Lmfao.
 

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You can only not realize a Genjutsu illusion if you lack the strength to counter it, see Itachi vs Kurenai. And Itachi anticipated Sasuke countering everything he threw at him, being that he never intended to kill him. While he may not have used Tsukuyomi at full strength, two things are sure : 1. The jutsu in use is Tsukuyomi and 2. Whatever level it was at, it was broken, rather than released.

No one has ever mistaken a Genjutsu’s release for them having broken it, much less Sasuke, who can see chakra with his Sharingan.
Kurenai broke her illusion cast back by Itachi. She never broke his illusions. Sasuke seeing chakra is invalid as many ocular powers see chakra. No one says all of them beat Tsukiyomi. Itachi's portrayal in the illusion department supercedes Sasuke breaking it. Further it was not hyped like Naruto attaining Bijū Mode. If a miraculous incident like this which is far above an individuals pay league happens in Manga. It'll definitely be hyped. Yet the narrative diverted it's focus to praising Itachi for holding back against his brother. Not Sasuke "heroically" beating his brother. He can simply facade the part where he believed he actually broke it. And simply let him out.
 

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He also broke out of Itachi’s Tsukuyomi through talent and skill:
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Itachi's eye-strain (a black-lash from using MS) is clearly shown. Zetsu (probably the best Sensor in the manga) confirms it as well:

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How is this still a topic? Aren't you guys tired of trolling? Yeesh! Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi. Get over it already!

He may or may not have used it (It is honestly impossible to know), but what is obvious is that if he did use it, he definitely did not use it anywhere near its full capacity, and we know the entire battle was a fabrication he made up for sasuke to win in every facet.

Sasuke kept up in a shuriken battle we know he should have lost (If Itachi can weave hand signs in the middle of it, and sasuke is greatly surprised by this, then we know Itachis hands are WAY faster, and thus he could have been throwing even faster than he did)

Sasuke kept up in taijutsu, but he had a sword and Itachi had kunai. Plus, we see later against Kabuto that Itachi is decently better at reacting to Kabuto's speed and jutsus, as we see Itachi as the only one even confronting Kabuto at close range, and Itachi repeatedly puts up defense for Sasuke. We also see that Itachi is superior to KM naruto in taijutsu (Somehow) despite KM Naruto being faster than the third Raikage (Or next to it) When we saw Sasuke struggle against fourth Raikage.

Knowing all of this, it is fairly safe to assume Itachi also let Sasuke win the genjutsu battle or at least allow a "stalemate".
The amount of made-up stuff in this post's astounding:

Itachi would have never been able to defeat Kabuto, if it wasn’t for Sasuke’s clever thinking and strategies:
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Notice how Sasuke is the first one to notice that the snakes were getting bigger. Not Itachi!
He’s he not only used Amaterasu as defense to save Itachi, but also as an offense to negate the technique: two birds with one stone!
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It’s Sasuke again to tells Itachi how to cut and why, not Itachi!
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It’s Sasuke again, who rescues Itachi repeatedly so that he can complete Izanami:

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He also broke out of Itachi’s Tsukuyomi through talent and skill:
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Itachi's eye-strain (a black-lash from using MS) is clearly shown. Zetsu (probably the best Sensor in the manga) confirms it as well:

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How is this still a topic? Aren't you guys tired of trolling? Yeesh! Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi. Get over it already!



The amount of made-up stuff in this post's astounding:

Itachi would have never been able to defeat Kabuto, if it wasn’t for Sasuke’s clever thinking and strategies:
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Notice how Sasuke is the first one to notice that the snakes were getting bigger. Not Itachi!
He’s he not only used Amaterasu as defense to save Itachi, but also as an offense to negate the technique: two birds with one stone!
You must be registered for see images

It’s Sasuke again to tells Itachi how to cut and why, not Itachi!
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It’s Sasuke again, who rescues Itachi repeatedly so that he can complete Izanami:

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Zetsu might be one of the best sensors but that doesn't set things in stone. That Sasuke broke it. He cannonically can manipulate without the sensory division catching up on his interfering chakra in the ally's brain. Confirmed by Shikaku the most analytical person on planet. He easily could facade the breaking of illusion through his genius foreplay of infiltrating the opponents crevices 100% unnoticed. Skill can't break illusions of Itachi's calibre going by how immense it has been portrayed.
 

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Zetsu might be one of the best sensors but that doesn't set things in stone. That Sasuke broke it. He cannonically can manipulate without the sensory division catching up on his interfering chakra in the ally's brain. Confirmed by Shikaku the most analytical person on planet. He easily could facade the breaking of illusion through his genius foreplay of infiltrating the opponents crevices 100% unnoticed. Skill can't break illusions of Itachi's calibre going by how immense it has been portrayed.
That's the infiltration of the chakra-barrier. He was in Anbu, after all. This point has no co-relation to the mechanics inside the Tsukuyomi (Shikaku being the most analytical person in NV's something I wholeheartedly disagree with). Furthermore, there are two canon-sources (manga and Databook) explicitly showing that Sasuke broke it. Still more, Sasuke was always meant to break it as it was ordained since part I.

Therefore, to suggest that things aren't set in stone, despite them being stated so quite clearly, suggests nit-picking for the sake of nit-picking. Which is nothing new, as Sasuke's feats are always nit-picked to hell and back.
 
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He also broke out of Itachi’s Tsukuyomi through talent and skill:
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Itachi's eye-strain (a black-lash from using MS) is clearly shown. Zetsu (probably the best Sensor in the manga) confirms it as well:

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How is this still a topic? Aren't you guys tired of trolling? Yeesh! Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi. Get over it already!



The amount of made-up stuff in this post's astounding:

Itachi would have never been able to defeat Kabuto, if it wasn’t for Sasuke’s clever thinking and strategies:
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Notice how Sasuke is the first one to notice that the snakes were getting bigger. Not Itachi!
He’s he not only used Amaterasu as defense to save Itachi, but also as an offense to negate the technique: two birds with one stone!
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It’s Sasuke again to tells Itachi how to cut and why, not Itachi!
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You must be registered for see images

It’s Sasuke again, who rescues Itachi repeatedly so that he can complete Izanami:

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i like what you mentioned here

because Itachi fanboys still think he can handle ( even as an Edo ) Kabuto alone without Sasuke Help !!
 
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That's the infiltration of the chakra-barrier. He was in Anbu, after all. This point has no co-relation to the mechanics inside the Tsukuyomi (Shikaku being the most analytical person in NV's something I wholeheartedly disagree with). Furthermore, there are two things (manga and Databook) both explicitly showing that Sasuke broke it. Still more, Sasuke was always meant to break it as it was ordained since part I.

Therefore, to suggest that things aren't set in stone, despite them being stated so quite clearly, suggests nit-picking for the sake of nit-picking. Which is nothing new, as Sasuke's feats are always nit-picked to hell and back.
The DB never said Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi.
 

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What's the arrow pointing towards? Look up and the downward arrow's talking about "driven to hell created by MS". What is that hell? It's Tsukuymoi. You have to be trolling at this point.
That picture is nice and all, but just because it mentioned "hell" doesn't make it Tsukuyomi. Genjutsu: Sharingan would be hell too if you took out someone's eye with it.
 

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That picture is nice and all, but just because it mentioned "hell" doesn't make it Tsukuyomi. Genjutsu: Sharingan would be hell too if you took out someone's eye with it.
Are you for real at this point? The top arrow literally talks about "both men casting" Genjutsu. There's nothing to interpret here.
 

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That's the infiltration of the chakra-barrier. He was in Anbu, after all. This point has no co-relation to the mechanics inside the Tsukuyomi (Shikaku being the most analytical person in NV's something I wholeheartedly disagree with). Furthermore, there are two canon-sources (manga and Databook) explicitly showing that Sasuke broke it. Still more, Sasuke was always meant to break it as it was ordained since part I.

Therefore, to suggest that things aren't set in stone, despite them being stated so quite clearly, suggests nit-picking for the sake of nit-picking. Which is nothing new, as Sasuke's feats are always nit-picked to hell and back.
To be clear it actually wasn't in reference to the chakra barrier. He clearly implies his control over illusions supercedes the power of mankind. As far as NV is concerned. Normally when an individual is controlled by a specific type of illusion his chakra'll be terribly and unoccasionally unbalanced. That's the narrative portrayed throughout. But the guy Sasuke fought was tiers ahead. Of all the illusion experts in the world. Craftily sneaking through the strict tight security camera like sensing which ranges effectively kilometers. It confronts the distant lands from Konohagakure to the southern west of Kumogakure. As is detailed in the Naruto official map. Such a tight team of powerful extraordinary supernaturally skilled team of sensors couldn't and blatantly stated to not be capable of doing anything VS Itachi and his plethora of wealth of genjutsu illusions. The portrayal is tight. It's tighter than what we knew about his prowess in the realm of illusion arts prior to witnessing Sasuke vs his brother. As such a hype statement was inexplicably stated post-timeskip after Sasuke "broke" his "illusion". The portrayal agrees with the master of mysticism being with no effort capable of pulling undetected of sensing variety of illusion on him. He's a scientifically proven culprit of facade.
 
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To be clear it actually wasn't in reference to the chakra barrier. He clearly implies his control over illusions supercedes the power of mankind. As far as NV is concerned. Normally when an individual is controlled by a specific type of illusion his chakra'll be terribly and unoccasionally unbalanced. That's the narrative portrayed throughout. But the guy Sasuke fought was tiers ahead. Of all the illusion experts in the world. Craftily sneaking through the strict tight security camera like sensing which ranges effectively kilometers. It confronts the distant lands from Konohagakure to the southern west of Kumogakure. As is detailed in the Naruto official map. Such a tight team of powerful extraordinary supernaturally skilled team of sensors couldn't and blatantly stated to not be capable of doing anything VS Itachi and his plethora of wealth of genjutsu illusions. The portrayal is tight. It's tighter than what we knew about his prowess in the realm of illusion arts prior to witnessing Sasuke vs his brother. As such a hype statement was inexplicably stated post-timeskip after Sasuke "broke" his "illusion". The portrayal agrees with the master of mysticism being with no effort capable of pulling undetected of sensing variety of illusion on him. He's a scientifically proven culprit of facade.
The comment was him about infiltrating the area without the Sensors' knowledge, who were in the headquarters. Itachi was in Anbu, and he worked as a double-agent; therefore, it isn't an unthinkable prospect to assume that he knew how to get around areas without arousing suspicions. Unless you believe that he cast some elaborate illusion upon the sensors, with whom he had no contact, then I don't know what to say.

Canonically, nothing about Itachi's Illusions is impressive: 3T Genjutsu? Sasuke has him beat by a long margin; MS? Shisui's Genjutsu absolutely lays waste to his. His MS Genjutsu, canonically, is useless before an Uchiha. That ultimately severely limits his Genjutsu-hype by a long shot. What are Itachi's "wealth of illusions"? I believe you're being very, very hyperbolic here. One unique Genjutsu exactly wealth. Make that two if you count the one cast on Naruto (which isn't Ephemeral; I don't think it's even named in the databook).

Your last two lines require re-writing. I can't understand them. This isn't a snide remark: I literally can't understand them.

"genjutsu: sharingan" is the name of a genjutsu.
Kishimoto-Sama once said: "Lord-Senpai Itachi-Sama-Kun-Chan-Dono is capable of Soloing Kaguya without even activating his Sharingan!" So, no, there is absolutely no doubt he is the strongest character. Originally, Itachi was going to be the main Character; however, Kisihomoto decided that's it's no fun to watch a character who can defeat anything with no effort. Which is where One (the writer of OnePunchMan) got his inspiration for Saitama (his original name was Sa-ITACHI-ma!)!

So, of course this databook and manga entry are a load of hoax Kishi-Chan-Chan wrote whilst trying to insert weed into his anus. What would he know? Itachi-Chan-dono transcends the fourth-wall. He doesn't need any backing; he's just too mucho-awesomeo! like that! I've seen the light pouring out of Itachi's anus. Thank you!
 
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