This nigga. Someone please tell this fool Who I am.
Regarding your First Quote.
Nigga I know who you are, someone incorrect in this argument....
The point of Itachi flying on C1 is a counter to ground base ninja such as tsunade and Ay and the fact that per say Gaara for examples decides to fly and give sand clouds to the rest of the kages so they can fly as well Itachi and deidara will both have methods of dealing with them. Insanely slow bird? Won't even comment on that. Anyway's why are you talking about swords for because I honestly don't know how that came up or were you referring to Itachi's using his sussano offensively and the damage not being as great due to a lack of mass as being he will be up in the sky? So basically your saying his sussano being used offensively won't cause much damage due to the lack of mass not supporting the final impact as you showed in your scans? If so I must disagree as sussano can be used in others methods besides swords and other long range tactics such as
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. If that was what you were referring to?
What the ****? You misunderstood every point I made so that's on you. Every point was out of context, I was simply referring to C1 Bird not holding Susano up, by proving it had lots of weight. Slow ass bird referring to C1 holding something as heavy as Susano (which it cannot).
Regards to your Quote Two.
Again what large scale jintons are you referring to? And lol what? So onoki while prepping jinton will be charging it and Itachi with his shunshin feats will shunshin out of Onoki's sight and onoki will still aim it at them? And I am assuming they are on the ground correct? or At least near ground level? Which gives itachi all the more means to close the gap between him and onoki before he fires off Jinton as he did against Kurenai and even Killer bee and deliver a deadly blow to onoki. If we look at Itachi usage of crow clone during the situation he can easily trick onoki with a crow clone due to his hand seal execution speed make onoki waste a jinton or as I pointed out shunshin over a great body clone explosion and harm onoki. You say Onoki will use a jinton completely unavoidable by the likes of anyone. Are you even taking into factor of his other team members A.K.A the other kages? By large jinton I am assuming the one that onoki was about to use on turtle island or the one that he used to destroy madara's 25 sussano clones?
Again, circular argument... One second Itahci is on C1, the net second he's using shunshin. I really can't tell if you are being serious here bro... Again, he isn't closing the gap on anyone with shunshin. He can blitz Onoki true, but Onoki flies so.. Even if Onoki wasn't flying, Ay has more than enough speed to react and send Itachi flying, as he has reacted to KCM Naruto multiple times. Yes, I am seaking of large Jinton. And no, his teammates remain unaffected since Gaara gives them the capability to fly with sand, and Onoki himself can fly. Jinton being wasted on crow clone? Again, Itachi won't be one island's distance away from his clone, nor will he remain hidden after he's created his clone. He will be easily observed by Onoki after creating a crow clone since he is flying.
The main thing you are not understanding here is that, btw the majority of your argument is based on Onoki finishing this with jinton, that being said I am sure Deidara would fill Itachi in on the dangers of jinton and make there main target of assassination to be onoki, death by Amateasu and before you say he can guard against via rock clones he must first know when amaterasu will be used, and secondly even if the rock clones manage to block the amaterasu itachi has been shown to manipulate the direction and path of where amaterasu goes as he made it chase after CM2 sasuke when they fought so even if the rock clones block amaterasu I am sure they will be near onoki when they block it, that being said Itachi can always make amaterasu hit Onoki regardless.
True, Deidara can tell him of the dangers of Jinton. But by the time he's informed Itachi, Onoki could've made 5 rock clones to fly along with him, hiding the true Onoki. Are you suggesting Itachi will waste his entire reserves on Clones just so he can kill Onoki. What then? 4 Kage vs Deidara and Itachi with no chakra? Lel. No, by the time Deidara has told Itachi, Onoki's clones could all be in the air at different distances. It's not like Deidara tells Itachi, and Itachi like a machine ends up using Amateratsu (which also has prep) instantly. It's not happening. He can always make amateratsu hit Onoki's clones and lots of his chakra, true, I agree.
No sorry my argument aint in circles, anyways you talk of diversions via rock clones when Itachi have also shown diversions with the use of his
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which can easily block the sight of onoki and put him in a confused state of mind disrupting the chakra charging of jinton and then a follow up with amaterasu. How can deidara and itachi not get out of view? I already gave a counter via itachi using crows and the fact that Onoki has to stay still Deidara can easily decide to play dirty and head for the kages direction making Onoki stop the jinton process in worry's to potentially hitting the other kages due to deidara going so close to them.
It actually is. One second Itachi is in the air, the next second he's using shunshin, how isn't it in circles? Again, crows aren't targeting the correct Onoki between 5 clones and the genuine one, nor are they being watched by the Kage's, who for example, can crush them with Gaara's sand or punch them with Ay's speed. Tsunade summons Katsuyu and splits it apart. Having a mini Katsuyu in Onoki's shirt renders any genjutsu useless, let alone the chance (1/6) of hitting the correct Onoki. lol play dirty? You think Onoki is that distrusting of the Kage's strength? Saying the 4 cage's would have a problem with Deidara is laughable at best seeing as Gaara alone almost could've won, and plausibly can win with his current progress and current intelligence he gained realising Deidara's counter. Jinton being stopped as absolutely pathetic and unreasonable, as he can end Itachi with a single Jinton. Although I can't tell if that's what you're saying since you have a circular argument, where one second Itachi is on the bird while the next he's using shunshin. Note that if he's on the bird, the movement speed will be slower than Iruka's. No viable counters yet.
Gaara's sand isn't a total counter to deidara's clay bombs consideration he can as he did before mix in his bombs with gaara's sand which can hurt gaara in the end and also harm the other kages if gaara decides to use his sand to help the others while not knowing that Clay bombs are in there and also the matter of C3 which in this case gaara will have a harder time dealing with due to the lack of shukaku and the extra sand from his village.
Sorry man Im busy in the morning and gotta get rest shame i couldnt go in more detail though and quote the rest of your post :yeah: but i gotta go to work and stuff.
It is actually a full counter. Now that Gaara knows Deidara can do that, he can simply compress his sand after every usage, to crush any bits of C1. More so, he can also always simply get new sand from the floor in which he loses chakra. However, every time he loses chakra, Deidara's little clay goes in vain, as he is always unprepared in a fight. C3 is a lol tech in this match up. Now he has barely any clay, and he will use C3 in vain, good job. Mei's Suiton can be empowered by Ay's ration, to nullify clay [
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